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alex ph
Joined: 16 Mar 2013 Posts: 1662
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:35 pm Post subject: Which lense pleases your wife or GF? |
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alex ph wrote:
Photography still remains mainly a male hobby or profession. As this forum does (correct me if I am wrong). But my question touches both sides.
Reading various threads I regularily meet your evidences concerning your partners' disapproval of wasting time and money for those beautiful (in your eyes) lenses and cameras. I also see that some of your partners let you quite easily make of them your photo models. I wonder if those of them who are present in your shots criticise you less often for buying too much of photo equipment? But it's an auxiliary question.
Like some of you I sometimes experience a certain indifference or critical attitude of my partner to my will to acquire photo equipment. Not specially for the reason of money but for the reason that it takes too much space in the house. Or because dealing with parcels when I buy at distance is such a mess.
Saying that I wish to mention that she likes my photos and loves to be photographed finding photo practice quite rich and facsinating as for results. What I observe is that everything was just a way as simple when I owned only one advanced digital P&S camera which gave a generally pleasing even if slightly blurry rendering of skin and face. It was one from Canon Powershot A series. When I got a Sony NEX, my partner became more critical. The NEX's kit lens renders more visible skin details as compared to my Canon P&S and at close distance that may cut the pleasure from watching your portraits. So, advancing in technical side of photography, I got more resistance when shooting my partner. I imagine that this precise point may contribute to a global criticism towards your photo passion.
But... I regained many points getting some of MF lenses which render back a pleasing skin and face texture, still giving high detail and overall sharpness.
I speak precisely about two lenses which give such an effect. Those are Rollei Planar 1.8/50 and Yashica ML 1.9/50.
Whe she saw her shots made with these lenses, especially with the Planar, even not wide open, she attested those shots as wonderul and special, and outlined that they give a much better impression of those taken with the kit lens. In some way I got a larger credit to continue my pursuite for the old photo equipment.
I cannot say that it's a universal recipy to change the attitude of your partner towards your photo passion. But there is a point in it.
What I would like to ask you is the question I put in the thread title: could you observe or conclude from discussions of your shots with your partner which lens pleases her most?
And if you are a female photographer and you have a male partner, do some of portrait parameters matter more for him than the skin rendering? The main question remains the same: which lens lets you please him most? |
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David
Joined: 13 Apr 2011 Posts: 1869 Location: Denver, Colorado
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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David wrote:
The only lenses that please my girlfriend are the ones I don't buy. _________________ http://www.youtube.com/user/hancockDavidM |
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Gardener
Joined: 22 Sep 2013 Posts: 950 Location: USA
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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Gardener wrote:
David wrote: |
The only lenses that please my girlfriend are the ones I don't buy. |
And those packed for shipping. |
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7787 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
David wrote: |
The only lenses that please my girlfriend are the ones I don't buy. |
You've hit the nail on the head there David!
but if I approach my wife with a camera, regardless of which lens might be on it, I'm a dead man. She hates having her photograph taken.
I need to find a lens that will flatter her, but before I can do that I need to get her to agree to stand still and not beat me up! _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
I have loads of stuff that I have to get rid of, if you see me commenting about something I have got and you want one, ask me.
My Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/mudplugga/
My ipernity -
http://www.ipernity.com/home/294337
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
I'm afraid, Alex, that you are engaged in a losing battle. Best not to engage in discussion or debate. This is genetic in origin, with only an occasional few females who for whatever reason are absent the troublesome gene. Those who find and marry the ones with absent gene are most fortunate and should have many children (girls) to enhance the chances of cleansing the human gene pool for the better of mankind. My wife once complained that my owning four Austin-Healeys was excessive; can you imagine such nonsense?
You have probably observed that while one lens is enough, one toy of any kind is enough, and especially ONE girlfriend/wife is enough (for your own safety), the lady in question probably has a need for more clothes and shoes than she could possibly ever wear before going out of style.
So after three years of dating, followed by 37 years of marriage, I have learned to avoid such subjects and just do as I please. Should she initiate the subject, just say "yes dear" or "no dear", being very careful to not mix those two responses, then do as you please.
Another little hint I can offer is that the problem gene apparently also causes an inability to tell one lens from another. This makes it quite possible to hide the new lenses in plain sight as long as they're surrounded by others. If she ever asks if that is a new lens, simply tell the truth: No, that's an old one.
I hope this has been useful to you, but in the event that none of this works, DO NOT substitute any of these tactics with logic; that will most certainly exacerbate matters. Good luck. _________________ Regards,
Woodrim
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vanylapep
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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vanylapep wrote:
^^ LOL.
So true. |
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invisible
Joined: 06 Jun 2013 Posts: 344
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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invisible wrote:
woodrim wrote: |
I'm afraid, Alex, that you are engaged in a losing battle. Best not to engage in discussion or debate. This is genetic in origin, with only an occasional few females who for whatever reason are absent the troublesome gene. Those who find and marry the ones with absent gene are most fortunate and should have many children (girls) to enhance the chances of cleansing the human gene pool for the better of mankind. My wife once complained that my owning four Austin-Healeys was excessive; can you imagine such nonsense?
You have probably observed that while one lens is enough, one toy of any kind is enough, and especially ONE girlfriend/wife is enough (for your own safety), the lady in question probably has a need for more clothes and shoes than she could possibly ever wear before going out of style.
So after three years of dating, followed by 37 years of marriage, I have learned to avoid such subjects and just do as I please. Should she initiate the subject, just say "yes dear" or "no dear", being very careful to not mix those two responses, then do as you please.
Another little hint I can offer is that the problem gene apparently also causes an inability to tell one lens from another. This makes it quite possible to hide the new lenses in plain sight as long as they're surrounded by others. If she ever asks if that is a new lens, simply tell the truth: No, that's an old one.
I hope this has been useful to you, but in the event that none of this works, DO NOT substitute any of these tactics with logic; that will most certainly exacerbate matters. Good luck. |
The last time I took in this much wisdom in just one sitting was when I watched the Movie "Gandhi" in 1982. Holy smokes. |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Gardener wrote: |
David wrote: |
The only lenses that please my girlfriend are the ones I don't buy. |
And those packed for shipping. |
for a lady, gadgets are truly no matter like for a healthy man , clothes, shoes etc. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Langstrum
Joined: 16 Feb 2014 Posts: 351
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:16 am Post subject: |
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Langstrum wrote:
I think the answer lies in the combination of how she/he figures out what is a good photo, her/his self-awareness, and budget plan.
I met my girl from a group of artists and she is just like me, getting crazy easily with photographic equipment and actually she was the one who lead me to this field. Most of the time I asked her about my plan for buying new lenses to get easy approvals, and sometimes she's even more excited than me to wait for the delivery .
If your girl is also a photographer, that's idea, everything becomes so easy, but if not, the situation is more complicated.
With the girls, how they look in the photo is the most important one. But the good thing is if she has a good sense of photography, she would likely to support your decision regardless of her will to be or not to be your regular model. Just choose the one taking good portraits by your parameters.
If she knows she's either pretty or unique, but she doesn't know much about photography, she would support you as long as her images look nice and impressive. You'll have more choice and less chance of getting criticism. Maybe, she will prefer photos with good 3D effect and not so high resolution to hide away some of her imperfection. However, this kind of girl may easily get bored with your increasing gear collection, and if she's strict with the budget, you'll have problems soon.
Unfortunately, as far as I observed, many hobbyist photographers, somehow, have gf or wives that don't care much or don't have any sense of photography, don't like seeing themselves with "ugly details". And the worst is they having many other plans for spending money. You need to choose the one that takes good photos which are praised by her friends and double think before showing them off. Otherwise, the best situation is dating your gears as a secret affair
I'm sorry that I can't give you any lens name, because my gf loves them all . If anyone here doesn't have gf yet, my advice is finding a female photographer, that's heaven _________________
Camera: Sony A7 mark III, A6300
AF Lenses:
Canon EF 50/1.8; EF 200/2.8 L, EF 200/1.8 L, EF 300/4 L Sony E mount SEL 50/1.8 OSS, SEL 16/2.8 Fuji X mount XF 35/1.4 R
MF Lenses: Peleng MC 8/3.5, 17/2.8 Samyang 14/T3.1, 35/T1.5, TS 24/3.5 ED, 85/T1.5, Polar 85/1.4 Auto Revuenon 28/2.8; MC 50/1.4 Vega11U 50/2.8 Carl Zeiss Tessar 50/2.8 (exakta mount) Auto Chinon 50/1.9 Zenitar ME1 50/1.7 Sears Auto Sears 55/1.4; Sears 135/2.8 Auto Yashinon DX 50/1.4; Tomioka 50/1.2 SMC Pentax 50/1.7; 50/1.4 Canon FD 50/1.4 S.S.C; 55/1.2 S.S.C; FD 50/1.2 L; FD 85/1.2 L; 85/1.2 S.S.C Aspherical; FD 80-200/4 L 300/2.8 S.S.C Fluorite FD 300/2.8 L FD 200/1.8 LCosina-S 50/1.2 Helios Helios 44 Chrome f/22, 44-2, 44-3, 44M-4, 44M-7 (58/2), Helios-40 85/1.5 Jupiter Jupiter-9 85/2; Jupiter-37A 135/3.5; Jupiter-21M 200/4 Nikon Ai 105/2.5 Tairs-3S 300/4.5
Voigtlander 15/4.5 Aspherical; Ultron 35/1.7
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norland
Joined: 10 Aug 2013 Posts: 165
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 4:10 am Post subject: |
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norland wrote:
Other half especially likes the colour and sharpness of pictures taken with the Tair 300A.
I'm inclined to agree with her, it's an excellent lens with weight its only real drawback. |
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IAZA
Joined: 16 Apr 2010 Posts: 2587 Location: Indonesia
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 7:29 am Post subject: |
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IAZA wrote:
Gardener wrote: |
David wrote: |
The only lenses that please my girlfriend are the ones I don't buy. |
And those packed for shipping. |
Very True hahaha...
I think it's not a matter of which lens please her/him? It's how we took the picture. Hide the ugly, weakness, wrinkle, etc.
My wife is bokeh lover. so any fast lenses or Meyer lenses will please her. _________________ nex5, Olympus EPM1, yashica half 14, Canon eos 650 want to see samples of mine? please click My lenses
and My gallery
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kansalliskala
Joined: 19 Jul 2007 Posts: 5037 Location: Southern Finland countryside
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 7:34 am Post subject: |
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kansalliskala wrote:
My wife said I shouldn't sell my Distagon 35/2.8. It does produce very beautiful pictures. _________________ MF: Kodak DCS SLR/c; Samsung NX10; OM-10; Canon T50
Zuiko 28/3.5, Distagon 35/2.8; Yashica ML 50/2;
Zuiko 50/1.4; S-M-C 120/2.8; Zuiko 135/3.5; 200/5;
Tamron AD1 135/2.8, Soligor 180/3.5; Tamron AD1 300/5.6
Tamron zooms: 01A, Z-210
Yashicaflex C; Київ 4 + Юпитер 8, 11; Polaroid 100; Olympus XA; Yashica T3
Museum stuff: Certo-Phot; Tele-Edixon 135; Polaris 90-190; Asahi Bellows; Ixus IIs
Projects: Agfa Isolette III (no shutter), Canon AE-1D (no sensor),
Nikon D80 (dead), The "Peace Camera"
AF: Canon, Tokina, Sigma Video: JVC GZ-MG275E |
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cyrano
Joined: 15 Feb 2013 Posts: 857 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 7:37 am Post subject: |
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cyrano wrote:
If anyone has any reasonable and partner acceptable excuses for when another lens arrives in the mail please feel free to share as I have run out of excuses. I am currently telling my gf that the latest arrival is an old one I sent off to get serviced but I think that's not going to work much longer, I'm getting strange looks from her now.... _________________ A whole bunch of stuff. |
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IAZA
Joined: 16 Apr 2010 Posts: 2587 Location: Indonesia
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 8:27 am Post subject: |
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IAZA wrote:
cyrano wrote: |
If anyone has any reasonable and partner acceptable excuses for when another lens arrives in the mail please feel free to share as I have run out of excuses. I am currently telling my gf that the latest arrival is an old one I sent off to get serviced but I think that's not going to work much longer, I'm getting strange looks from her now.... |
sorry man, but I cannot help to laugh here
You must sell other lens, and don't forget to give her money, and say " This is for you, benefit from selling...and so on..."
This works for me so far _________________ nex5, Olympus EPM1, yashica half 14, Canon eos 650 want to see samples of mine? please click My lenses
and My gallery
~Suat~ |
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qtmonster
Joined: 15 Jun 2011 Posts: 37 Location: Singapore
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 8:32 am Post subject: |
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qtmonster wrote:
The various posts from this topic cracked me up....in a tickling and dry way cos it's so true
Whenever I tell my wife I'm planning to buy a new (old) lens, she'd always give me a look and make me promise to sell off one or some or all of my current collection. So at the very least, the herd remains the same in numbers. I've gotten off with a few excuses like 'I've sold off this one lens for $$$ but gotten 2 newer ones cheaper than the one I sold".
I do agree that fast lenses benefit the most as the bokeh wide open give dreamy images that tend to flatter the females in our lives. They tend to hate sharp, portrait images...unless they're for landscape scenes.
It's part of our relationship, so have fun in the midst of those sweat-producing, permission-asking situations |
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CuriousOne
Joined: 31 Dec 2013 Posts: 669 Location: Home
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 8:47 am Post subject: |
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CuriousOne wrote:
Safe ones?
_________________ I have nothing to compensate with lens |
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hoanpham
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 9:00 am Post subject: |
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hoanpham wrote:
IAZA wrote: |
You must sell other lens, and don't forget to give her money, and say " This is for you, benefit from selling...and so on..."
This works for me so far |
I don't sell lenses as often. But regularily basis give her money and say the same. This works for me too. |
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tromboads
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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tromboads wrote:
ahh uv filter. Good idea. |
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drjs
Joined: 25 Feb 2013 Posts: 484 Location: USA
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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drjs wrote:
Gardener wrote: |
David wrote: |
The only lenses that please my girlfriend are the ones I don't buy. |
And those packed for shipping. |
I got into a lot of trouble when I told mine "That is not the function of the lens" after she said my lens made her look fat. _________________ Follow me on 500px |
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alex ph
Joined: 16 Mar 2013 Posts: 1662
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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alex ph wrote:
Thank you guys for your contributions. I admired many of your observations!
Ha-ha, woodrim, that makes lough:
woodrim wrote: |
If she ever asks if that is a new lens, simply tell the truth: No, that's an old one. |
I read from one of you in another thread that you "inject" new lenses in a pile of those already acquired. IAZA, giving money from a sold lens must be an ingenious machiavellianism which supports solidarity between the partners!
All those tactics are quite impressive. But I don't see the question as a rigid choice: either your partner as fotographer, what Langstrum states, or an endless war of the worlds, as some of you point out.
Sometimes your second half lets you shoot her (or him) volontarily and then, inevitably, you show her (or him) the shots and you discuss them, right? If not, it must be just another source of strong criticism from her/him. And when you do that, she or he may say: oh, I like that most! It is less probable that your partner speaks in your terms of sharpness, DOF, bokeh. But in some way this is what we all need, to know how our shots are seen by people who do not belong to that special culture of pixel peepers.
I was impressed to know that, a part form my Planar 1.8/50, a wide angle Distagon 35/2.8 (kansalliskala) may work as well as an old tele Tair 300A (norland). I agree with qtmonster, using the lenses is a part of our relationships. And I am still quite curious to know which ones work for you the best to maintain the couple's harmony!
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alex ph
Joined: 16 Mar 2013 Posts: 1662
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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alex ph wrote:
Ha-ha, drjs, a fatal error!
drjs wrote: |
I got into a lot of trouble when I told mine "That is not the function of the lens" after she said my lens made her look fat. |
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drjs
Joined: 25 Feb 2013 Posts: 484 Location: USA
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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drjs wrote:
alex ph wrote: |
Ha-ha, drjs, a fatal error!
drjs wrote: |
I got into a lot of trouble when I told mine "That is not the function of the lens" after she said my lens made her look fat. |
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Yes.. It was nearly "fatal". I found my sofa wasn't as soft as I first imagined. _________________ Follow me on 500px |
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
cyrano wrote: |
If anyone has any reasonable and partner acceptable excuses for when another lens arrives in the mail please feel free to share as I have run out of excuses. I am currently telling my gf that the latest arrival is an old one I sent off to get serviced but I think that's not going to work much longer, I'm getting strange looks from her now.... |
Did you say "gf"? If so, imagine as wife. _________________ Regards,
Woodrim |
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cyrano
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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cyrano wrote:
woodrim wrote: |
cyrano wrote: |
If anyone has any reasonable and partner acceptable excuses for when another lens arrives in the mail please feel free to share as I have run out of excuses. I am currently telling my gf that the latest arrival is an old one I sent off to get serviced but I think that's not going to work much longer, I'm getting strange looks from her now.... |
Did you say "gf"? If so, imagine as wife. |
Perish the thought..... I want to live long. double _________________ A whole bunch of stuff. |
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Billou
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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Billou wrote:
My wife always thinks she broke my X-E1 when she touches another button than the shutter, but for sure she knows that the Leica R 50/2 and the 90/2 give the best results for portraits in my collection. And I love her for that, she is so right ! |
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