Rarity search help [Open thread]

[Attila]

I thought it would be nice to open a thread where we can put our rarities.
I think those ones what you can't find in on-line searches at all.

If you have a picture from lens , camera , accessories that would be great help in more accurate identify.

[iangreenhalgh1]

I don't have many:

Rathenower Optische Werke Visionar 1.9/168
Rathenower Optische Werke Rectimascope 48/2x (anamorphic adapter)
Ross Xpress f4 5 inch Air Ministry
Ross Expandascope (anamorphic adapter)
Kalee Variable Anamorphot (only arrived today, huge prismatic thing)

[Attila]

I never heard any of them, I will try to seek Google might be I will find something.

[KarelDH]

hi

iangreenhalgh1,

most of your lenses can be found on the web, is there anything u like to know about them ?.

Ross Xpress f4 5 inch Air Ministry - like ->
(http://www.earlyphotography.co.uk/site/entry_C299.html)
(http://www.apug.org/forums/forum44/78296-ross-air-ministry-lens.html ( is the ian who responds in this treat u ? )

[iangreenhalgh1]

I just listed the rarest ones I have, there is a little info available on all, I don't have anything really rare, sadly.

Thats a different Ian, not me.

My lens is one of the ones that has no markings other than the 'crows feet' and a serial number so may not be made by Ross, I know it has a 70 degree field of view and will cover a 5" x 7" plate, but I don't now much else, it is said that wide open, it is closer to F3 than f4 as marked.

The Visionar is one I have not been able to find any specifics on, only that it is a 35mm movie projection lens and Rathenower made lots of models in different focal lengths.

I could do with knowing some technical info on the Ross Expandoscope an the Kalee/Rank lens as I need to figure out what lenses to attach them to and how to use them for lanscape work.

Ideally, I'd like to use the Kalee with the second Ross f4 5 inch I've just bought. I'm planning to DIY a 6x17 panoramic rollfilm camera and it would be cool to use an anamorphic with that, would make for some very wide panoramas if it worked.

[estudleon]

Golden summilux M 1,4/50 with golden apertures too. Out of catalogue. Sold to an argentine collector

Voigtlander Super Lanthar 2,8/50 mm srl lens. Sold with my viogtlanser colection. Not high priced.

Leica M3 body, d.s. and selector to use in s.s. Very very rare.I can´t fin it in any catalogue. Modificated one? Prototype? I dopn't know. I sold it at a very good price.


Rino.

[OM]

Good idea for a thread Attila

I don't have any valuable rarities but I am curious about an Auto Papagon 200mm F3.5 I recently picked up in M42 mount...Google only returns two pages in China

By the way, Papagon is not a spelling error (I am well aware of the Paragon brand).

Any info from members is appreciated.

[Attila]

Sound is funny Papagon a parrot name coming into my mind.

[OM]

[Attila]

[walter g]

I think my Sun 135 f3.5 would qualify as my rarest lens. Made in the 1960's by Sankor for Sun. This is the only copy I've ever seen.
http://forum.mflenses.com/sun-135-3-5-t31292.html

[kuuan]

my rarest would be a Tele Kominar f3.5/135mm.
search returns results where I had mentioned it and a few Japanese sites

Kominar lenses were made by Nittō Kōgaku, but this lens is not mentioned in the camerapedia article: http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Nitt%C5%8D_K%C5%8Dgaku

Nittō Kōgaku is still producing lenses today: http://www.nittohkogaku.co.jp/english/

I had presented the lens here already: http://forum.mflenses.com/tele-kominar-135mm-f3-5-t7180,highlight,%2Btele+%2Bkominar.html

[Attila]

Military Sonnar 18cm f2.8 L39




Friend of mine bought it when a Luftwaffe pilot passed away.
Finally I did purchase from him, I never seen any info on NET. Some old Hungarian collector could recognise it they said military finish is obvious (more stripes on focusing barrel) , friend of mine said less than 10 pcs made. Any info much appropriate!

[Himself]

Why it has that big serial number if only 10 pieces were made?

[Attila]

[iangreenhalgh1]

This is all the info I can find about my Kalee Variomorph lens, it was made by Taylor, Taylor and Hobson and is a strange device with a prismatic system, quite different to most anamorphic lenses that use a cylindrical element:

[iangreenhalgh1]

I found a picture of this lens on an old projector - it's the large gold boxy-shaped thing at the front:



Another picture of the lens, you get an idea how big it is:



And this is the projector it was attached to:



I notice that this lens is installed a fair distance from the lens on the projector and not attached to it, obviously for use with a camera, it will need to be attached to the objective lens, I can see this being a very difficult or maybe impossible job to convert it to use on a camera, but I like a challenge!

This is the version of the lens I have:



The American Widescreen musem website says this about it:

[iangreenhalgh1]

This is my copy of tthe lens, serial number 1010 (probably only a few thousand were made) and it is in optically very good condition, no fungus or scratches, just a tiny bit of dust. Has the mount to put it on a projector with it.






Might not be all that rare, but it is certainly unusual imho.

[RioRico]

What is 'rare' for the purpose of this thread? Is a lens 'rare' if copies exist, but few (if any) people write about it? Of if it is not basically a camera lens? I am not sure whether any of these would qualify as 'rare':

* Rodenstock XR-Heligon 120/1.8 (Xray)
* Schenider Betavaron 50-125/4-5.6 (enlarger zoom)
* Schneider PC-Cinelux 60/2.8 (projector) perspective control
* Industar-58 75/3.8 (enlarger or projector?) big black horn
* TDC-VIVID and GoldE Anastigmat's 127/3.5 (projector)
* Gundlach Turner-Reich Anastigmat 12in f/7 (large format)
* Beattie-Coleman Photo Navitar 10in f/4.5 (large format)
* Gefitec Auto Zoom 85-210/4.5 (Minolta MD mount)

That last was probably churned out by Kiron, but I can't find GEFITEC anywhere. Oh yeah, I can use all of these (except the Gefitec) on my K20D.

At home, I have a few odd optical objects, the oddest being one that I have not yet successfully photographed. It is in a nameless sealed-base lens body about 6cm diameter and 5cm high, and weighs 220g. Behind the deeply curved objective is a sort of mirror-prism arrangement. Strangeness: Aim light at it. Rotate this optical item 180 degrees, and the reflection rotates 360 degrees!

[Abbazz]

I do have a few rare lenses. My favorite is the Fujinon-SW S f:5.6 50mm, a super wide designed for the Fujica G690 series. These cameras were made in the 1960-70s. They delivered 6 x 9 pictures on 120 or 220 film and had interchangeable lenses. The 50mm, launched in 1973, was the widest lens of the lot, with an angle of view exceeding 90°, the same as a 21mm lens on full frame 24 x 36. Optically, it was a superb lens but, since this lens was very expensive when it first appeared and also since it only went for sale for five years, there are only a few units remaining today. I am lucky enough to have two copies of this outstanding lens.

Here's the lens:



And here it is on a GL690 camera :



Cheers!

Abbazz

[Sevo]

[iangreenhalgh1]

Good point Sevo, the second Ross I just bought cost me 10ukp because it was just listed as 'old brass lens', seller knew nothing about it, slightly blurry pic, luckily I recognised the lens from the pic and, like my first copy it's in excellent condition with unmarked sparkling glass.

This second one is No. 171326 and has ref. no. 14A/1101, doesn't have ny other markings apart from 'f4 5in', f-stops 4, 5.6, 8 and 11 and the crown with 'A M' either eide.

[Attila]

[Abbazz]

[Attila]

BIG!