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PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 2:03 am    Post subject: Intriguing Soviet item Reply with quote

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lens-/261371466494?pt=UK_Lenses_Filters_Lenses&hash=item3cdaf412fe

Anyone know what it is?


PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 3:35 am    Post subject: Re: Intriguing Soviet item Reply with quote

iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lens-/261371466494?pt=UK_Lenses_Filters_Lenses&hash=item3cdaf412fe

Anyone know what it is?


The Russian inscription "пластина нижняя" means something like "bottom plate". Of course it's a translation out of context, so I have no idea what this might be a plate of.


PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thankyou. I agree, doesn't tell us much. I thought, being in such a nice wooden box it might be a high end item of interest to someone.


PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like this is the same one :

http://kiev.ko.slando.ua/obyavlenie/deshevo-plastina-nizhnyaya-gost-2923-59-b-u-ID6Da5D.html

Description is hard to translate and understand. Here is the google translate :

Quote:
Flat glass plate for interference measurements . Plate b / y in good condition. The plate is in a wooden box . Production of the USSR.

Plate used for checking flatness measuring surfaces of end measures , gauges , micrometers , gauges and instruments.

Flat glass plates are used to verify interference methods pritiraemosti and flatness measuring plane-parallel planes gauge blocks , gauges , instruments and tools. The plates are widely used in the tool industry, machine tools, instrumentation , engineering and many other industries . The plates are available in two types: the lower and upper . Lower (support ) of the plate used for checking pritiraemosti and flatness measuring surfaces gauge blocks , gauges , instruments and tools. The top plates are used for measuring plane-parallel gauge blocks technical interference method.

The plates are made of optical glass in the form of straight cylinders with flat end faces which are working .

Plates used for lapping them flat parallel gauge blocks with interference measurements , and also for testing the flatness measuring surfaces of end measures , calibers , micrometers , gauges and instruments.

Calibration plates produced according to GOST 8.215-76


PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BurstMox wrote:
Looks like this is the same one :

http://kiev.ko.slando.ua/obyavlenie/deshevo-plastina-nizhnyaya-gost-2923-59-b-u-ID6Da5D.html

Description is hard to translate and understand. Here is the google translate :

Quote:
Flat glass plate for interference measurements . Plate b / y in good condition. The plate is in a wooden box . Production of the USSR.

Plate used for checking flatness measuring surfaces of end measures , gauges , micrometers , gauges and instruments.

Flat glass plates are used to verify interference methods pritiraemosti and flatness measuring plane-parallel planes gauge blocks , gauges , instruments and tools. The plates are widely used in the tool industry, machine tools, instrumentation , engineering and many other industries . The plates are available in two types: the lower and upper . Lower (support ) of the plate used for checking pritiraemosti and flatness measuring surfaces gauge blocks , gauges , instruments and tools. The top plates are used for measuring plane-parallel gauge blocks technical interference method.

The plates are made of optical glass in the form of straight cylinders with flat end faces which are working .

Plates used for lapping them flat parallel gauge blocks with interference measurements , and also for testing the flatness measuring surfaces of end measures , calibers , micrometers , gauges and instruments.

Calibration plates produced according to GOST 8.215-76


It would thus seem this object is a quality control device of some sort. Maybe it was used on comparator-like machines? To all the naysayers out there, here is indisputable prof that there WAS QC in the Soviet Union. Very Happy


PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

konicamera wrote:


It would thus seem this object is a quality control device of some sort. Maybe it was used on comparator-like machines? To all the naysayers out there, here is indisputable prof that there WAS QC in the Soviet Union. Very Happy


Ahh, but how flat is the cylinder? What QC was used to make it?


PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 5:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Intriguing Soviet item Reply with quote

iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lens-/261371466494?pt=UK_Lenses_Filters_Lenses&hash=item3cdaf412fe

Anyone know what it is?


It is that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_flat used for quality control.


PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's especially very useful for for (re-)adjusting lenses with large physical apertures like larger telescopes Smile

Last edited by ForenSeil on Sun Jan 12, 2014 3:06 pm; edited 1 time in total


PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the info guys.


PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And good for checking filter quality - how flatt theye are.
for this I have such an optical flat, but from Zeiss Jena.
Monochrome light, clean filter on clean optical flat, and one sees interference pattern.


PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was about to say it was an optical flat but Klaus beat me to it. I find it quite interesting that optical flats can be used to check the quality of a lens or mirror optic down to the angstrom level.

1 angstrom = is a unit of length equal to 10^-10 m (one ten-billionth of a meter) or 0.1 nm.

The Soviets' QC may have been poor generally, but that was also generally not true with their optics.