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In love with Meyer-Optik Görlitz
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 9:28 am    Post subject: In love with Meyer-Optik Görlitz Reply with quote

I'm actually in love with the Primagon 35/4.5

Which other must have lens from Meyer would suggest and why?


PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 10:23 am    Post subject: Re: In love with Meyer-Optik Görlitz Reply with quote

Rick1779 wrote:
I'm actually in love with the Primagon 35/4.5

Which other must have lens from Meyer would suggest and why?


Well I have Zebras 50mm, 135mm and 200mm (also Pentacon 200mm) and find they all just short of razor sharp and GENERALLY on film give nicer looking results.


PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the list usually people in East will go for:

Primagon 35/4.5 <- You have it!
Helioplan 40/4.5 <- Rare, nice bokeh and color.

Domiron 2/50 <- Good close focus performance. Rare.
Primoplans 1.9/58 and 1.9/75 <- Unique design with distinctive bokeh. Quiet expensive especially the 75.

Trioplan 2.8/100 <- One of the best known triple for its creamy bokeh at full open.


Sadly, I only own a Primoplans 1.9/58 and a broken Primagon 35/4.5 now... I nearly forget my Helioplan 4,5/105 lens head but it is not easy to find one in good shape.


PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

this trioplan?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281173528180?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_sacat%3D0%26_from%3DR40%26_nkw%3D281173528180%26_rdc%3D1


PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rick1779 wrote:
this trioplan?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281173528180?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_sacat%3D0%26_from%3DR40%26_nkw%3D281173528180%26_rdc%3D1

Yes. The one in your link is made early post war around 1949. It is more rare and expensive than the newer Trioplan Click here to see on Ebay .

bernhardas wrote:
calvin83 wrote:
This is the list usually people in East will go for:


Trioplan 2.8/100 <- One of the best known triple for its creamy bokeh at full open.




Creamy? or Crazy? (not to give preference of one over the other)

I see most people called it creamy but it can be crazy for some people.


PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks Wink


PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And what about the Orestor 100/2.8?


PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

... or an Orestegon 29mm f/2.8?


PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try them out LOL!


PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Orestor 100/2.8 is a cracker, but the 29/2.8 is best avoided...a bit of a dog generally.


PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get the primotars (both 50 and 135), the orestor 135 and 200.
The "classic" 1.8/50 is good and the lydith 30/3.5 is greatly underrated, IMHO.


PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Their stuff and that branded CZJ seems rather pricey -- so for a good 135mm I bought a Jupiter 11a instead.
Same with binoculars, where CZJ seemed to go for inflated prices, so I got 12x40 Zomz and 8x40 Tento.


PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meyer Optik Görlitz Telemegor 5.5/180mm is also cool if you're not into speed too much.


PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always got very nice results from the Lydith 30/3.5. I think it only comes in Exakta mount, but that's no issue. The Oreston 50/1.8 M42 mount is really nice as well. Great character.

The Telemegor 400/5.5 maybe should be avoided, though it's temptingly uncommon. Mine was the aluminum version and looked like an artillery piece. Very very soft even as far as I could ever stop it down. Only got a handful of good shots with it. The bokeh could be almost surreal and overwhelming. Gave me a headache.


PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Attila wrote:
Try them out LOL!


In time, but I need to choose, the budget is pretty limited Surprised


PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only one I have experience with is the f/1.8 50mm Oreston.

I bought it for under $20, and it produces very nice images. I like it a lot.


PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rick1779 wrote:
Attila wrote:
Try them out LOL!


In time, but I need to choose, the budget is pretty limited Surprised



So, the orestor 50/1.8 and the Lydith should be your next ones, they often go for ridicously low prices.
With a bit of luck, the primotar 50 too, sometimes, is sold for very little. And it's a very fine example of how good a tessar can be.


PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My favourites are the Primagon 4.5/35, Primotar 3.5/50, both really superb.

I think the 70s and later ones like the Lydith, Oreston, 2.8/29 Orestegor are not quite the same level, good lenses but nothing to write home about.


PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been a fan of Meyer. I will speak about the ones I have experience with:


Lydith 30/3.5 - I loved this lens from the first day. Mine had haze, and still has some, but provides good colors and very good sharpness. Reasonably close focus ability as well. It does come in M42 re: previous comment. I have two Pentacon versions and only one is good, but does not give me the same experience.


Primagon 35/4.5 - My most recent purchase. Wonderful lens. Nice colors and very sharp.


Primotar 80/3.5 - Again, mine has some haze which can affect IQ. I find it very soft at f/3.5 and the bokeh isn't wonderful.


Orestor 135/2.8 - Zebra version. Often referred to as Bokeh Monster. Yes, bokeh is very good, sharpness also very good, multi-bladed diaphragm forms a circle. I like this lens and it is my third favorite among my lenses in this focal length.


Orestegor 200/4 - The only Meyer I sold. Was a good lens, but not as good as another 200mm I have and it was slower.


Orestegor 300/4 - I like everything about this lens except its size and weight. Very good images as long as you have the time to focus precisely.


I would love to try a Trioplan, but have not been willing to pay the high prices. I would also like the Orestor 100/2.8 (Not Pentacon version) and expect to eventually find one at my price level.


PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

calvin83 wrote:
Trioplan 2.8/100 <- One of the best known triple for its creamy bokeh at full open.


"Creamy" is probably not the most common adjective for it Wink. "Soap-bubbley" might fit better



Smile


PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

eeec wrote:
calvin83 wrote:
Trioplan 2.8/100 <- One of the best known triple for its creamy bokeh at full open.


"Creamy" is probably not the most common adjective for it Wink. "Soap-bubbley" might fit better


Thanks for letting me know this adjective . I like the your second photo very much.

I regret sold my Trioplan as I cannot find one cheap now! Sad


PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

+1 on Orestor 100/Pentacon 100. Awesome lens! Also the Primoplan is rather distinctive but can become quite boring soon. Love the Telemegor 180. Gives your portraits that soft focus 80's look with a lot of highlight glow!


PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bernhardas wrote:
I received recently my Tripolan 100.
It has already been converted to Nikon mount (by the previous owner). The conversion job is top quality and looks absolute professional.


Could you be so kind and take a picture of the conversion/mount, please? I am curious how it was done, i know it would be easy with a lathe, but i don t want to butcher it that way.

Tomas