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stingOM
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 Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 7:36 pm Post subject: photo ninja |
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http://www.picturecode.com/index.php
Anyone tried photo ninja before?[/b][/i] |
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SonicScot
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SonicScot wrote:
I use Noise Ninja occasionally but didn't know about this one.
I don't think I'll be tempted because Lightroom has it all covered.
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stingOM
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| Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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stingOM wrote:
Briefly tested it. I am astonished how well it handles my NEF files from my D2H compared to LR3.6  |
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SonicScot
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| Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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SonicScot wrote:
| stingOM wrote: |
| Briefly tested it. I am astonished how well it handles my NEF files from my D2H compared to LR3.6 |
What do you mean by how well it handles the files? 
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Currently active gear....
Sony a7
E-M1 Mkll
Rubinar 1000/10 + 2x matched extender
Tamron 500/8 55BB
Sigma 100-300/4
Vivitar Series 1.... 200/3, 70-210/3.5 (V1 by Kiron), 135/2.3, 105/2.5 macro, 90/2.5 macro (Bokina), 90-180/4.5 Flat Field Macro, 28-90mm f/2.8-3.5
Carl Zeiss.... 180/2.8, 135/3.5, 85/1.4, 35/2.4 Flektagon, 21/2.8 Distagon
Nikon.... 55/3.5 micro, 50/1.2
Elicar 90/2.5 V-HQ Macro
Zhongyi Speedmaster 85/1.2
Jupiter-9 85/2
Helios.... 58/2 44-3
Hartblei 45/3.5 Super-Rotator TS-PC
Zenitar 16/2.8 fisheye
Samyang 8/3.5 fisheye
Nodal Ninja 4, Neewer leveling tripod base
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Orio
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| Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
| SonicScot wrote: |
| Lightroom has it all covered. |
It does, but some of the modules in this new Ninja appear to do the job very cleverly.
If there's a demo, I will try it. I am a registered user of Ninja Pro Bundle and this entitles me to a small discount.
If worth, I may sidegrade.
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stingOM
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| Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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stingOM wrote:
| SonicScot wrote: |
| stingOM wrote: |
| Briefly tested it. I am astonished how well it handles my NEF files from my D2H compared to LR3.6 |
What do you mean by how well it handles the files? |
I can't export the files as I don't have a trial licence to show you. Let me try by take screenshots of the result - LR3.6 vs. Photo Ninja.
I guess, my point is it renders the NEF Raw so well that I am astonished how much detail I am getting from my 4 MB sensor! May be Nikon NX is just as good, but it is extremely slow to run. Photo Ninja is no where as refined as LR, but I really liked its simplicity. It runs slower than LR as well on my very old Dell Dimension 5000. |
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stingOM
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stingOM wrote:
Here you go.
ISO 200
Nikkor AIS 105mm f2.5, @f2.5
D2H
#1 Gives you a perspective of the entire photo
#2 LR3.6 - the best possible "look" I can achieve on my calibrated Dell LCD Monitor.
To me this still looks very mushy. I blamed it on the 4 MB sensor and obviously I am totally wrong!
#3 Photo Ninja
These are just screen captures. So I don't know what it will actually look like in the final exported image. |
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Orio
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Orio wrote:
Cute doggies 
What I am most curious to try of Ninja Photo is the Moustache distortion correction tool. That does not exist yet in any other software that I know of.
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stingOM
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stingOM wrote:
| Orio wrote: |
Cute doggies
What I am most curious to try of Ninja Photo is the Moustache distortion correction tool. That does not exist yet in any other software that I know of. |
Thanks Orio.
Yeah Orio. The Geometric correction tool is the easiest to use tool I have ever seen so far in a program.
Send them a mail to get a trail code. I just got it now.
support1 "at" picturecode.com.
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SonicScot
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SonicScot wrote:
It's difficult to be sure from a screen capture but the second one looks to have more sharpening applied. Maybe that's just the default settings in Photo Ninja.
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Currently active gear....
Sony a7
E-M1 Mkll
Rubinar 1000/10 + 2x matched extender
Tamron 500/8 55BB
Sigma 100-300/4
Vivitar Series 1.... 200/3, 70-210/3.5 (V1 by Kiron), 135/2.3, 105/2.5 macro, 90/2.5 macro (Bokina), 90-180/4.5 Flat Field Macro, 28-90mm f/2.8-3.5
Carl Zeiss.... 180/2.8, 135/3.5, 85/1.4, 35/2.4 Flektagon, 21/2.8 Distagon
Nikon.... 55/3.5 micro, 50/1.2
Elicar 90/2.5 V-HQ Macro
Zhongyi Speedmaster 85/1.2
Jupiter-9 85/2
Helios.... 58/2 44-3
Hartblei 45/3.5 Super-Rotator TS-PC
Zenitar 16/2.8 fisheye
Samyang 8/3.5 fisheye
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stingOM
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stingOM wrote:
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| It's difficult to be sure from a screen capture but the second one looks to have more sharpening applied. Maybe that's just the default settings in Photo Ninja. |
I think you are right there. But at least it looks better so far. I could not get the same look in LR. It is making me rethink about deleting all those photos!
BTW, sharpening in LR is already set to a decent level with clarity at 25%. Need to double check again. |
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stingOM
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stingOM wrote:
OK. I have exported the output from each into JPEGs.
To my eyes, the colour rendering is more natural and neutral in LR. Sharpness looks similar, but with Photo Ninja I can push it a lot further than LR3.6. To achieve the same level of sharpening in LR, I had to set to 90% which is very high in my view. In Photo Ninja, the setup is different so it is difficult to directly compare the settings.
Some more info here on the "detail" slider:
http://www.picturecode.com/tutorials/detail_enh.php
Also, you will notice that the recovered highlights are filled in with a "false" blue colour, whereas LR left it alone. Or maybe Photo Ninja is just much better at recovering highlights. I am not sure.
Contrast and lack point is set up differently, but I think Photo Ninja rendered it much better.
Goto: File -> download to get the full res image.
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B4mhAog_f4TvMXp3dVZtRGI3aG8
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B4mhAog_f4TvNnFSMmhwVkR6cUU
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stingOM
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stingOM wrote:
Another reason for Nikon shooters to use Photo Ninja?
http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/content_page.asp?cid=7-11676-12555 |
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monkjason
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monkjason wrote:
I only use photo ninja to process my RAW from X-pro1, in fact Noise Ninja is the pre-version of Photo Ninja, which added more useful RAW processing methods in it, I doubt it should have pre-processed my Xpro1 RAW because I found the color is more comfortable than other RAW processing softwares, nowadays I just use this one to translate RAW to JPG directly with some sharpening and detailing steps.
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