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kthoth
Joined: 22 May 2013 Posts: 1
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 6:26 pm Post subject: Helios 40-2 85mm f1.5 |
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kthoth wrote:
Hi, I'm new user here (also new to MF lens, too) I just saw picture from Helios 40-2 85.
I've just stunned. I really hope that my Nikon can use with it, but I heard that it's a problem with infinity focusing.(I'm pretty sad)
A new Helios came out with EOS mount, do my nikon will have a chance like EOS?
Or I have to order a modified one? It's so expensive (about 900$) and I have to risk with a shipping thing.
Anybody have a news for Nikon user?
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parabellumfoto
Joined: 06 Apr 2013 Posts: 413 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 6:45 pm Post subject: Re: Helios 40-2 85mm f1.5 |
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parabellumfoto wrote:
kthoth wrote: |
Hi, I'm new user here (also new to MF lens, too) I just saw picture from Helios 40-2 85.
I've just stunned. I really hope that my Nikon can use with it, but I heard that it's a problem with infinity focusing.(I'm pretty sad)
A new Helios came out with EOS mount, do my nikon will have a chance like EOS?
Or I have to order a modified one? It's so expensive (about 900$) and I have to risk with a shipping thing.
Anybody have a news for Nikon user?
,Thank you |
Hi,
I'm in the same situation as you.
I have found that old Nikkor lenses can be exceptional!
http://forum.mflenses.com/nikkor-50mm-f2-ai-s-t13007,start,15.html
If you still want to try other lenses look for T Mount, Tamron Adaptall, and Pentacon Six mounts.
Personally, I will just be looking at old Nikkors for now due to financial restrictions. In the future I plan to buy a NEX as a second camera. Currently I'm shooting with a D3200.
Old Nikkor lenses are a forgotten high quality option in my opinion. _________________ Minolta MC Rokkor f1.4 50mm
Minolta MD Zoom Macro 35-105mm f3.5-4.5
Nikon Nikkor 50mm F2
Nippon Kogaku Japan Nikkor-S Auto 5cm F2
Nippon Kogaku Japan Nikkor-Q Auto 135mm F2.8
Nikon AF-S Nikkor 35mm F1.8G
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Welcome! 900 USD way too much, look another solution what you like Samyang 85mm with Nikon mount, Nikon lenses , Nikon 85mm f1.4 , 1.8 _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 7:30 pm Post subject: Re: Helios 40-2 85mm f1.5 |
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Attila wrote:
parabellumfoto wrote: |
kthoth wrote: |
Hi, I'm new user here (also new to MF lens, too) I just saw picture from Helios 40-2 85.
I've just stunned. I really hope that my Nikon can use with it, but I heard that it's a problem with infinity focusing.(I'm pretty sad)
A new Helios came out with EOS mount, do my nikon will have a chance like EOS?
Or I have to order a modified one? It's so expensive (about 900$) and I have to risk with a shipping thing.
Anybody have a news for Nikon user?
,Thank you |
Hi,
I'm in the same situation as you.
I have found that old Nikkor lenses can be exceptional!
http://forum.mflenses.com/nikkor-50mm-f2-ai-s-t13007,start,15.html
If you still want to try other lenses look for T Mount, Tamron Adaptall, and Pentacon Six mounts.
Personally, I will just be looking at old Nikkors for now due to financial restrictions. In the future I plan to buy a NEX as a second camera. Currently I'm shooting with a D3200.
Old Nikkor lenses are a forgotten high quality option in my opinion. |
+1 follow this valuable advice. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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kokuuji
Joined: 25 Sep 2012 Posts: 86 Location: Yokohama Japan
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Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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kokuuji wrote:
Hi, I think it might be one of solution for nikon mount.
http://www.rugift.com/photocameras/nikon_cameras_lenses.htm
Maybe it will work on nikon?
I don't try it yet so I don't know?
But you can mail seller for this lens.
Thank you. _________________ http://kokuuji.typepad.com |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Several Russian lenses are adjustable pretty well to Nikon for example Jupiter-9 adjustable to have infinity on Nikon. May Helios-2 too or at least to give enough distance for portrait work. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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tomasg
Joined: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 1135
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Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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tomasg wrote:
The Helios works well for portraits on Nikon bodies, my copy gets in focus up to some 5 m, what s nice is that near this distance you get the swirl effect. I opened a Cyclop, it could be adapted but with some shaving off or a lathe, not worth the effort. Some samples:
http://www.pbase.com/tomasg_71/cyclop
http://www.pbase.com/tomasg_71/image/143132763
http://www.pbase.com/tomasg_71/image/142559606
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ZoneV
Joined: 09 Nov 2009 Posts: 1632 Location: Germany
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Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:58 am Post subject: |
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ZoneV wrote:
I think you should try to find out what you like on the Helios 40 pictures.
In case it is for example the swirly (~rotating) bokeh, other alternative lenses with that are hard to find.
In case it is only the small DOF, many other lenses could give you the same.
The Samyang 85mm f/1.4 has an aspheric lens inside, this gives sometimes onion ring bokeh - I don´t like this and prefer classic all spheric lenses. _________________ Camera modification, repair and DIY - some links to look through: http://www.4photos.de/camera-diy/index-en.html
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6005 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:45 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
If you are considering the Samyang 85mm f1.4, you would do well to have a look at the Nikon Nikkor 85 mm F/1.8 D AF Lens
These can be used in manual focusing if you desire, and are a much better lens than the Samyang, with very little difference in speed.
And they are not so much more expensive if you look at the new prices of both lenses.
There is a used one here:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Nikon-Nikkor-85-mm-F-1-8-D-AF-Lens-For-D80-D90-D5100-D7000-etc-Used-/230994335411?pt=AU_Lenses&hash=item35c855d6b3
and another:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Nikon-Nikkor-85-mm-F-1-8-D-AF-Lens-For-D80-D90-D5100-D7000-etc-Used/221025286598?rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D261%26meid%3D8320656593178383501%26pid%3D100005%26prg%3D1088%26rk%3D5%26sd%3D261216020160%26
If you want a classic MF Nikkor 85mm here is one for the price of a Samyang:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Nikon-Nikkor-AI-85mm-f1-8-Lens-in-VGC-/261216020160?pt=AU_Lenses&hash=item3cd1b026c0
I know what I would buy
OH
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Sirrith
Joined: 17 Sep 2010 Posts: 215 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:46 am Post subject: |
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Sirrith wrote:
I think you will regret paying current prices for the Helios 40. It is not worth that much IMO. |
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ZoneV
Joined: 09 Nov 2009 Posts: 1632 Location: Germany
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Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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ZoneV wrote:
Sirrith wrote: |
I think you will regret paying current prices for the Helios 40. It is not worth that much IMO. |
I thought metal prices are high at the moment
And the Helios 40 has much metal, and few plastic parts - most likely none.
Samyang 85 has some plastic parts, if I understand correctly even the aspherical lens part is plastic.
But I agree USD 900 is too much at the moment. I think I paid ~USD 360 ~ a year ago for my Helios 40-1 - found it expensive for what I got (I am used to buy cheap). _________________ Camera modification, repair and DIY - some links to look through: http://www.4photos.de/camera-diy/index-en.html
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Misha_M
Joined: 08 Oct 2012 Posts: 178
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Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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Misha_M wrote:
Regarding prices, nowadays (autumn 2013) a typical, silver ("white") Helios 40 lens, mainly non coated, with M39 or "home made" M42 mount (which is just an M39->M42 adapter ring glued \ welded onto the original mount), mainly from the 1960's, costs ~400$, both from sellers and on auctions (seen 2 such lenses go for 406$ and 428$ during the past 2 months) on ebay...
For example:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/kmz-Helios-40-1-5-85-M39-M42-Very-Rare-/380646902567?pt=Camera_Lenses&hash=item58a052cb27
Price also depends on condition, and naturally a lens with some defects which is still operable (maybe oil on aperture blades, maybe damaged filter thread...) will cost a few dozen $ less.
More rare exemplars, such as earlier production lenses with "0" / "00" / "000" (and if you're really lucky, even "0000" ! ) in the beginning of their serial numbers, or lenses with blue / purple coating, or lenses with a red "P" or "n" on the front, etc. cost about 50$-100$ more.
For example:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Portrait-Helios-40-M39-M42-Canon-EOS-Excellent-s-n-002551-/161039458043?pt=Camera_Lenses&hash=item257eb31efb
or
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HELIOS-40-1-5-85mm-Russian-BOKEH-MONSTER-Lens-SLR-DSLR-Cameras-M39-M42-Zenit-KMZ-/261279471530?pt=Camera_Lenses&hash=item3cd57857aa
Helios 40-2 lenses, with the M42 mount, usually cost 500$ or more; I suppose it is becuase of the flange register issue, which causes the loss of infinity focus.
For example:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1983-year-Mint-Helios-40-2-1-5-85-Early-Lens-SLR-screw-M42-831487-/321200930914?pt=Camera_Lenses&hash=item4ac9114062
And from here on, the only limit to price is the sellers fantasy
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Black-Helios-40-85mm-F-1-5-85-1-5-M42-Screw-Mount-Lens-With-The-Original-Case-/110956279682?pt=Camera_Lenses&hash=item19d5827782 _________________ Tair 11 133 f/2.8 1958
Jupiter 9 85 f/2 1959
Helios 44M 58 f/2 1978
Helios 44-2 58 f/2 1977
Helios 44 (13 blades) 1959
Helios 77M4 50 f/1.8
Zenitar-M 50 f/1.7 1986
Industar-61 L\Z 50 f/2.8
Helios 40-2, 85 f/1.5 1974 |
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BurstMox
Joined: 04 Dec 2011 Posts: 2018 Location: France
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Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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BurstMox wrote:
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More rare exemplars, such as earlier production lenses with "0" / "00" / "000" (and if you're really lucky, even "0000" ! ) in the beginning of their serial numbers, or lenses with blue / purple coating, or lenses with a red "P" or "n" on the front, etc. cost about 50$-100$ more. |
I think every Helios 40 have this blue/purple coating. In early years, there was a П to indicate it was coated, but then it disappeared. I have never seen not coated H-40 (or maybe uncoated because of bad treatment by other owners). _________________ Pierre
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