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Hari
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Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:58 am Post subject: Lilia |
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Hari wrote:
The model is the client
She wanted the latest trend of desaturated look for some images and deeply saturated colors for some others. And "lots of 3D".
She is super happy with the images
This is not my typical style but always nice to try something new
Do let me know what you guys think
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Orio
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Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 10:59 am Post subject: Re: Lilia |
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Orio wrote:
Hari wrote: |
Do let me know what you guys think |
Ok, I give you my honest opinion:
I like the poses of #1 and #2, they are the most effective. Instead I see pose problems in #3 #4 #5
#1 and #2 look more washed out than desaturated. Conversely, #3 #4 #5 look more overcontrasted than deeply saturated.
Contrast and saturation go naturally together but they can (and should) be handled separately.
The aged yellow tone of #1 #2 looks nice, but there is an exposure problem.
All 5 images would have greatly benefitted from light modifiers (reflecting panels, flash with a softbox), which are standard
in this kind of shots but asbolutely mandatory in high contrast sunlight situations such as this one.
But if the client is super happy, then it's all that matters. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Attila
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Before last sit on floor my favorite, shows best side of her and green , light produce excellent image, congrats! _________________ -------------------------------
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kds315*
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kds315* wrote:
Great model and nicely dressed, good location.
BUT: greenish skin in #1 + 2? Missed focus on #4 + 5 (and somewhat #3), feet are sharp but face is not.
I agree with Orio, that it is quite harsh (too much contrast) and oversaturated (#3-5)
But if she likes it, well, all is well then! _________________ Klaus - Admin
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Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
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yinyangbt
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Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:59 pm Post subject: Re: Lilia |
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yinyangbt wrote:
Hari wrote: |
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Nice legs !
Agree withe Orio and Klaus , some misfocusing problems - little backfocus ?(maybe too shallow depth of field?) Like the fourth pose , the last one is not very flattering knees wise, in my opinion .Also I detected some vitiligo or depigmentation marks on the hands and legs also a little . Maybe the poses should try to hide that , wouldn't hurt , in my opinion. But these are just if we want to split hairs , at first sight looks nice .If she likes , not bad .What aperture did you used ?
Tried some sepia ? Maybe could be interesting on the first ones _________________ Cheers , Teo
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Rick1779
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If I must choose I'd pick the first 2 with the desaturated look |
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visualopsins
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Beside the endless technical faults always present in any effort, and given demanding light, I think the goal is very well-attained -- the photographer has succeeded remarkably in recording character & spirit, and even better than that, to her satisfaction(!). _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
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Hari
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Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 7:14 am Post subject: Re: Lilia |
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Hari wrote:
Orio wrote: |
Hari wrote: |
Do let me know what you guys think |
Ok, I give you my honest opinion:
I like the poses of #1 and #2, they are the most effective. Instead I see pose problems in #3 #4 #5
#1 and #2 look more washed out than desaturated. Conversely, #3 #4 #5 look more overcontrasted than deeply saturated.
Contrast and saturation go naturally together but they can (and should) be handled separately.
The aged yellow tone of #1 #2 looks nice, but there is an exposure problem.
All 5 images would have greatly benefitted from light modifiers (reflecting panels, flash with a softbox), which are standard
in this kind of shots but asbolutely mandatory in high contrast sunlight situations such as this one.
But if the client is super happy, then it's all that matters. |
Can you tell me what could be done better with 3, 4 and 5? I dont have much experience with model shoots and want to learn.
I think i understand what you mean here "#1 and #2 look more washed out than desaturated. Conversely, #3 #4 #5 look more overcontrasted than deeply saturated." Will try this in Lightroom.
I do not have any reflectors / flash etc. but this is such easy money and fun that i will go deeper into this area of photography
Orio, thank you for taking the time to help me understand what can be improved _________________
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Hari
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Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 7:16 am Post subject: |
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Hari wrote:
Attila wrote: |
Before last sit on floor my favorite, shows best side of her and green , light produce excellent image, congrats! |
Thanks Attila _________________
Analogue Rangefinders: Leica M5, Leica M6 Titanium classic 0.72, Leica M7 0.58, Leica M7 0.85
Digital Rangefinder: Leica M9, Leica Monochrom, Leica M240
SLR: Leica R3 electronic, Canon AE1P
DSLR: Canon 5D MK2
M mount Lenses: Super-Wide Heliar 15/f4.5 ASPH. + Leica 24/f3.8 ASPH + Leica 28/f2 ASPH. + Leica 35/f1.4 ASPH. FLE + Leica Noctilux 50/f0.95 + Leica Noctilux 50/f1 + Canon 50/f1.2 LTM + Leica 50/f1.4 ASPH. + Leica 50/f1.5 + Zeiss ZM Sonnar 50/f1.5 + Leica APO Summicron 50/f2 + Leica Summitar 50/f2 + Leica Rigid Summicron 50/f2 + Zeiss ZM Planar 50/f2 + Leica 50/f2.8 E39 + Leica 75/f1.4 + Leica APO 75/f2 ASPH. + Voigtlander 75/f2.5 + Leica Summarex 85/f1.5 + Leica APO 90/f2 ASPH. + Leica 90/f2 E55 + Leica 90/f2.8 + Leica APO 135/f3.4
Leica R mount Lenses: Leica-R 60/2.8 E55 + Leica-R 80/1.4 E67 + Leica-R 180/4
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Hari
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Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 7:23 am Post subject: |
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Hari wrote:
kds315* wrote: |
Great model and nicely dressed, good location.
BUT: greenish skin in #1 + 2? Missed focus on #4 + 5 (and somewhat #3), feet are sharp but face is not.
I agree with Orio, that it is quite harsh (too much contrast) and oversaturated (#3-5)
But if she likes it, well, all is well then! |
the model and i sat together for the post processing and this is the result of what she liked. maybe i should have suggested technically correct processing settings (green skin) but she wanted it that way
btw, these are not all ... there are many more images from this session. i just didnt get the time to process all the files. More shots coming up shortly!
i dont know whats wrong - either my contact lenses and m9 dont agree on the focal point or my lenses need readjustment ... im missing focus on quite a few shots lately :/
thank you for the comments Klaus _________________
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Digital Rangefinder: Leica M9, Leica Monochrom, Leica M240
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DSLR: Canon 5D MK2
M mount Lenses: Super-Wide Heliar 15/f4.5 ASPH. + Leica 24/f3.8 ASPH + Leica 28/f2 ASPH. + Leica 35/f1.4 ASPH. FLE + Leica Noctilux 50/f0.95 + Leica Noctilux 50/f1 + Canon 50/f1.2 LTM + Leica 50/f1.4 ASPH. + Leica 50/f1.5 + Zeiss ZM Sonnar 50/f1.5 + Leica APO Summicron 50/f2 + Leica Summitar 50/f2 + Leica Rigid Summicron 50/f2 + Zeiss ZM Planar 50/f2 + Leica 50/f2.8 E39 + Leica 75/f1.4 + Leica APO 75/f2 ASPH. + Voigtlander 75/f2.5 + Leica Summarex 85/f1.5 + Leica APO 90/f2 ASPH. + Leica 90/f2 E55 + Leica 90/f2.8 + Leica APO 135/f3.4
Leica R mount Lenses: Leica-R 60/2.8 E55 + Leica-R 80/1.4 E67 + Leica-R 180/4
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Hari
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Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 7:27 am Post subject: Re: Lilia |
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Hari wrote:
yinyangbt wrote: |
Hari wrote: |
Do let me know what you guys think
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Nice legs !
Agree withe Orio and Klaus , some misfocusing problems - little backfocus ?(maybe too shallow depth of field?) Like the fourth pose , the last one is not very flattering knees wise, in my opinion .Also I detected some vitiligo or depigmentation marks on the hands and legs also a little . Maybe the poses should try to hide that , wouldn't hurt , in my opinion. But these are just if we want to split hairs , at first sight looks nice .If she likes , not bad .What aperture did you used ?
Tried some sepia ? Maybe could be interesting on the first ones |
yes - not correctly focused :/
i shot mostly at f5.6 from 3-5 metre range if i remember correctly
good point wrt the depigmentation ... i will keep this in mind for the next time
no b&w ... she was quite specific about the end look of the images
thank you for the good advice! _________________
Analogue Rangefinders: Leica M5, Leica M6 Titanium classic 0.72, Leica M7 0.58, Leica M7 0.85
Digital Rangefinder: Leica M9, Leica Monochrom, Leica M240
SLR: Leica R3 electronic, Canon AE1P
DSLR: Canon 5D MK2
M mount Lenses: Super-Wide Heliar 15/f4.5 ASPH. + Leica 24/f3.8 ASPH + Leica 28/f2 ASPH. + Leica 35/f1.4 ASPH. FLE + Leica Noctilux 50/f0.95 + Leica Noctilux 50/f1 + Canon 50/f1.2 LTM + Leica 50/f1.4 ASPH. + Leica 50/f1.5 + Zeiss ZM Sonnar 50/f1.5 + Leica APO Summicron 50/f2 + Leica Summitar 50/f2 + Leica Rigid Summicron 50/f2 + Zeiss ZM Planar 50/f2 + Leica 50/f2.8 E39 + Leica 75/f1.4 + Leica APO 75/f2 ASPH. + Voigtlander 75/f2.5 + Leica Summarex 85/f1.5 + Leica APO 90/f2 ASPH. + Leica 90/f2 E55 + Leica 90/f2.8 + Leica APO 135/f3.4
Leica R mount Lenses: Leica-R 60/2.8 E55 + Leica-R 80/1.4 E67 + Leica-R 180/4
EF mount Lenses: Canon 50/1.8 II
M42 mount Lenses: Too many
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Hari
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Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 7:27 am Post subject: |
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Hari wrote:
Rick1779 wrote: |
If I must choose I'd pick the first 2 with the desaturated look |
Grazie! _________________
Analogue Rangefinders: Leica M5, Leica M6 Titanium classic 0.72, Leica M7 0.58, Leica M7 0.85
Digital Rangefinder: Leica M9, Leica Monochrom, Leica M240
SLR: Leica R3 electronic, Canon AE1P
DSLR: Canon 5D MK2
M mount Lenses: Super-Wide Heliar 15/f4.5 ASPH. + Leica 24/f3.8 ASPH + Leica 28/f2 ASPH. + Leica 35/f1.4 ASPH. FLE + Leica Noctilux 50/f0.95 + Leica Noctilux 50/f1 + Canon 50/f1.2 LTM + Leica 50/f1.4 ASPH. + Leica 50/f1.5 + Zeiss ZM Sonnar 50/f1.5 + Leica APO Summicron 50/f2 + Leica Summitar 50/f2 + Leica Rigid Summicron 50/f2 + Zeiss ZM Planar 50/f2 + Leica 50/f2.8 E39 + Leica 75/f1.4 + Leica APO 75/f2 ASPH. + Voigtlander 75/f2.5 + Leica Summarex 85/f1.5 + Leica APO 90/f2 ASPH. + Leica 90/f2 E55 + Leica 90/f2.8 + Leica APO 135/f3.4
Leica R mount Lenses: Leica-R 60/2.8 E55 + Leica-R 80/1.4 E67 + Leica-R 180/4
EF mount Lenses: Canon 50/1.8 II
M42 mount Lenses: Too many
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Hari
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Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 7:28 am Post subject: |
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Hari wrote:
visualopsins wrote: |
Beside the endless technical faults always present in any effort, and given demanding light, I think the goal is very well-attained -- the photographer has succeeded remarkably in recording character & spirit, and even better than that, to her satisfaction(!). |
Can you let me know the technical faults? I want to learn and improve.
Thank you for the kind words _________________
Analogue Rangefinders: Leica M5, Leica M6 Titanium classic 0.72, Leica M7 0.58, Leica M7 0.85
Digital Rangefinder: Leica M9, Leica Monochrom, Leica M240
SLR: Leica R3 electronic, Canon AE1P
DSLR: Canon 5D MK2
M mount Lenses: Super-Wide Heliar 15/f4.5 ASPH. + Leica 24/f3.8 ASPH + Leica 28/f2 ASPH. + Leica 35/f1.4 ASPH. FLE + Leica Noctilux 50/f0.95 + Leica Noctilux 50/f1 + Canon 50/f1.2 LTM + Leica 50/f1.4 ASPH. + Leica 50/f1.5 + Zeiss ZM Sonnar 50/f1.5 + Leica APO Summicron 50/f2 + Leica Summitar 50/f2 + Leica Rigid Summicron 50/f2 + Zeiss ZM Planar 50/f2 + Leica 50/f2.8 E39 + Leica 75/f1.4 + Leica APO 75/f2 ASPH. + Voigtlander 75/f2.5 + Leica Summarex 85/f1.5 + Leica APO 90/f2 ASPH. + Leica 90/f2 E55 + Leica 90/f2.8 + Leica APO 135/f3.4
Leica R mount Lenses: Leica-R 60/2.8 E55 + Leica-R 80/1.4 E67 + Leica-R 180/4
EF mount Lenses: Canon 50/1.8 II
M42 mount Lenses: Too many
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Orio
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Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:54 am Post subject: Re: Lilia |
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Orio wrote:
Hari wrote: |
Can you tell me what could be done better with 3, 4 and 5? I dont have much experience with model shoots and want to learn.
Orio, thank you for taking the time to help me understand what can be improved |
You're welcome Hari! I'm glad to help.
I made writings on pictures :
#3
#4
#5
Later when I have time I will talk about #1, because it's a good example situation that can be useful to other people too. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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kds315*
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Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Excellent teachings Orio! _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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philslizzy wrote:
The out-of-focus background looks like it was created in photoshop. It has a definite start/stop.
I have done a similar with an amateur model and was pleased with the results. I looked online and found images of poses that I liked and discussed them with the model beforehand and she pretty well decided what to do. So when we took the pictures we had some idea what we were doing. I wanted Black & White 1940's style pics so out came the trenchcoat and hat (from my amazing collection of hats), my model just wanted fun.
Take the comments as constructive. I have learned from reading them.
Check out my flickr page. Lots of photos, but unfortunately not the full session. Here are a few faves. Lots of fun! http://www.flickr.com/photos/birchdigital/ _________________ Hero in the 'messin-with-cameras-for-the-hell-of-it department'. Official. |
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Hari
Joined: 29 Nov 2009 Posts: 1790
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Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 1:37 pm Post subject: Re: Lilia |
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Hari wrote:
Orio wrote: |
Hari wrote: |
Can you tell me what could be done better with 3, 4 and 5? I dont have much experience with model shoots and want to learn.
Orio, thank you for taking the time to help me understand what can be improved |
You're welcome Hari! I'm glad to help.
I made writings on pictures :
Later when I have time I will talk about #1, because it's a good example situation that can be useful to other people too. |
Wow! some really cool insights!
Thank you again for taking the time to help me Orio! I really appreciate it!
Please do share some tips on #1 when you have the time _________________
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Digital Rangefinder: Leica M9, Leica Monochrom, Leica M240
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DSLR: Canon 5D MK2
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Hari
Joined: 29 Nov 2009 Posts: 1790
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Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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Hari wrote:
philslizzy wrote: |
The out-of-focus background looks like it was created in photoshop. It has a definite start/stop.
I have done a similar with an amateur model and was pleased with the results. I looked online and found images of poses that I liked and discussed them with the model beforehand and she pretty well decided what to do. So when we took the pictures we had some idea what we were doing. I wanted Black & White 1940's style pics so out came the trenchcoat and hat (from my amazing collection of hats), my model just wanted fun.
Take the comments as constructive. I have learned from reading them.
Check out my flickr page. Lots of photos, but unfortunately not the full session. Here are a few faves. Lots of fun! http://www.flickr.com/photos/birchdigital/ |
The m9 + 75/2 combo is really good.
pity my contact lenses make me miss focus
it is fun shooting models - even more if they're paying _________________
Analogue Rangefinders: Leica M5, Leica M6 Titanium classic 0.72, Leica M7 0.58, Leica M7 0.85
Digital Rangefinder: Leica M9, Leica Monochrom, Leica M240
SLR: Leica R3 electronic, Canon AE1P
DSLR: Canon 5D MK2
M mount Lenses: Super-Wide Heliar 15/f4.5 ASPH. + Leica 24/f3.8 ASPH + Leica 28/f2 ASPH. + Leica 35/f1.4 ASPH. FLE + Leica Noctilux 50/f0.95 + Leica Noctilux 50/f1 + Canon 50/f1.2 LTM + Leica 50/f1.4 ASPH. + Leica 50/f1.5 + Zeiss ZM Sonnar 50/f1.5 + Leica APO Summicron 50/f2 + Leica Summitar 50/f2 + Leica Rigid Summicron 50/f2 + Zeiss ZM Planar 50/f2 + Leica 50/f2.8 E39 + Leica 75/f1.4 + Leica APO 75/f2 ASPH. + Voigtlander 75/f2.5 + Leica Summarex 85/f1.5 + Leica APO 90/f2 ASPH. + Leica 90/f2 E55 + Leica 90/f2.8 + Leica APO 135/f3.4
Leica R mount Lenses: Leica-R 60/2.8 E55 + Leica-R 80/1.4 E67 + Leica-R 180/4
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tomasg
Joined: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 1135
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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:57 am Post subject: |
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tomasg wrote:
Hari wrote: |
pity my contact lenses make me miss focus
it is fun shooting models - even more if they're paying |
How can that be? I also wear contact lenses and some pretty strong ones, - 5.5 diopters. Very intresting thread btw and i like the pics.
Tomas |
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 10989 Location: California
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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
tomasg wrote: |
Hari wrote: |
pity my contact lenses make me miss focus
it is fun shooting models - even more if they're paying |
How can that be? I also wear contact lenses and some pretty strong ones, - 5.5 diopters. Very intresting thread btw and i like the pics.
Tomas |
Perhaps the camera's eyepiece diopter adjustment needs a re-do. I take off lens, adjust diopter for sharpest view of focus points, then check focus accuracy using a ruler slanted away at 45 degrees -- does where I place focus on the ruler scale match where focus is in photo? If that doesn't work the camera focus screen needs calibration, needs to be re-shimmed. _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
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kuuan
Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 4569 Location: right now: Austria
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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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kuuan wrote:
she looks sweet and happy in the first two and they have a sense of movement, of capturing a special moment and I like that!
she does frown a bit in the other, I find the somewhat missed focus on the face a bit disturbing on the leg photo and also too much shadow in the face in the last.
very good information and instructions, thank you Orio!
On the other hand can't imagine that I'd much like Hari's model, in this environment, posing like the beauty queen does. That may be 'perfect' in many ways but imo would not look very natural which is or could be the forte of these portraits _________________ my photos on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/collections |
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4713 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
kds315* wrote: |
Excellent teachings Orio! |
+1
I learned something as well
We need more threads like this! _________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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fermy
Joined: 17 Feb 2012 Posts: 1974
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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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fermy wrote:
I've learned something too, very instructive indeed. Thanks, Orio! I don't like beauty queen pose though. The legs look good, but the rotated torso looks absolutely artificial. Perhaps it's just a matter of rotating slightly less. _________________ Many lenses and some film bodies for sale here: http://forum.mflenses.com/canon-fd-minolta-md-c-mounts-m42-pentax-and-more-t50465.html
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Thank you Orio! In my observation is best to make model shoot with cloudy sky or bright day but in shadow and wall is essential to reflect light if you have no helper with reflector. Otherways model can open eyes only a few seconds and usually not fully. _________________ -------------------------------
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Illustration of wall usage , what I told in previous post and shade.
#1
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