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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:54 am    Post subject: Canon LTM f1.8/50 ( on Ricoh GXR M ) Reply with quote
had a bit of bad luck with a faulty first copy, but I liked the results well enough to go ahead and get another, good copy Wink



wide open

( I do love live view / EVF for composing, this pic has received over 1400 views and was selected 58 times as a favorite in just over 24 hours Wink )

cheers, andreas


PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
nice results!
love how it renders details


PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Very nice one Andreas!


PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I much prefer the first pic. Very nice.


PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks a lot for sharing, Andy!

I have been looking for this lens for quite a while now to see if it might be an alternative to the Russian 50mm lenses for Leica.
Unfortunately, this Canon is pretty expensive nowadays. Sad


PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Very nice, love the bokeh Wink

Do you have a picture of the lens? Surprised


PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
lovely clarity and gorgeous oof rendering!

of course, a talented photographer who knows how to use the equipment is the most important tool in the equation Smile

the Ricoh seems to be a brilliant performer with RF glass!


PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Brilliant! I really like both of your pics, but I prefer the subject matter and composition of the first one.

When I bought back into a Canon RF system a few years ago, after not owning one for almost 25 years, I was quite surprised at how expensive a rather pedestrian lens such as the Canon 50mm f/1.8 had become. In my case it was the chrome Serenar, not the black barreled later model. (I dunno if the optical formulas are different). As recently as the early 1990s, the Canon LTM optics were regarded as "just okay" when compared to their Leitz equivalents, and were cheap, as a result. I think I paid about $40 for the Canon 50/1.8 Serenar I owned back then. Fortunately for me, when I bought a Canon IIIa rangefinder a few years ago, it came with a Serenar 50/1.8, for the very fair price of $250 total. This lens has always done a very good job on my Canon IIIa. More recently, I bought an M39 to M42 adapter ring and mounted it to my EOS DSLR using an M42-to-EOS adapter. Of course, no infinity focus was possible, but that didn't stop me from doing macros. And the results I got were stunning! That lens is incredibly sharp! It's funny how the reputation of Canon optics has changed so radically since the advent of interchangeable-lens digital cameras.

Here's a shot of a couple of acorns, taken with the Serenar set to f/8:



And a 100% crop of the same shot. That bug was about as big as a pin-point.


PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nice work andreas. You must be enjoying the gxr! Outside of the out of our league priced leica digital m's, the gxr is imo the best option for shooters of RF lenses.

To address michaels point, these canon rfs have always been way underrated, and leica owners certainly had a hand in that! I have the oh so tiny 28/3.5 and it is equally stunning, though i dont use that FL much at all on my gxr,
Tony


PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
thank you Rick, Klaus and everyone for viewing and commenting!
some comments:

Yebisu wrote:
I much prefer the first pic. Very nice.


well, me too Smile the first was a special moment of special chicken Wink second one kind of 'making' an image and testing the lens

LucisPictor wrote:
Thanks a lot for sharing, Andy!

I have been looking for this lens for quite a while now to see if it might be an alternative to the Russian 50mm lenses for Leica.
Unfortunately, this Canon is pretty expensive nowadays. Sad


my pleasure Carsten Smile
hm..how much is pretty expensive? It still may be a relative bargain, mirrorless for which RF glass fit better than SLR lenses will become more wide spread, soon some will have FF sensors, I am sure prices of these RF lenses is to increase


PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nordentro wrote:
Very nice, love the bokeh Wink

Do you have a picture of the lens? Surprised


yes, me too I like the bokeh!
I have a pic of my first, faulty copy of this lens:



Hari wrote:
lovely clarity and gorgeous oof rendering!

of course, a talented photographer who knows how to use the equipment is the most important tool in the equation Smile

the Ricoh seems to be a brilliant performer with RF glass!


yes, clear and good bokeh.
thank you for your flattering comment Hari, I am fortunate to be have great gear that challenges me to play with
the Ricoh is a very fine camera, has clear advantage over my NEX5n with RF wide angles. With longer glass like this 50mm I'd say it's rather a matter of taste, the Ricoh renders very pleasantly.


PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
cooltouch wrote:
Brilliant! I really like both of your pics, but I prefer the subject matter and composition of the first one.

When I bought back into a Canon RF system a few years ago, after not owning one for almost 25 years, I was quite surprised at how expensive a rather pedestrian lens such as the Canon 50mm f/1.8 had become. In my case it was the chrome Serenar, not the black barreled later model. (I dunno if the optical formulas are different). As recently as the early 1990s, the Canon LTM optics were regarded as "just okay" when compared to their Leitz equivalents, and were cheap, as a result. I think I paid about $40 for the Canon 50/1.8 Serenar I owned back then. Fortunately for me, when I bought a Canon IIIa rangefinder a few years ago, it came with a Serenar 50/1.8, for the very fair price of $250 total. This lens has always done a very good job on my Canon IIIa. More recently, I bought an M39 to M42 adapter ring and mounted it to my EOS DSLR using an M42-to-EOS adapter. Of course, no infinity focus was possible, but that didn't stop me from doing macros. And the results I got were stunning! That lens is incredibly sharp! It's funny how the reputation of Canon optics has changed so radically since the advent of interchangeable-lens digital cameras.


Michael thank you very much for your interesting history with this lens.
Mine has the black focus barrel, is not a Serenar and I also don't know if optical formula is the same, but I think it is.
When I saw the first pic i took with this lens it was it's well balanced rendering, 'unspectacular' in a way maybe, that just looked 'right' that attracted me, similar virtues that I like of my S-M-C Takumar 1.4/50. Form what I can tell so far sharpness is very good thought not outstanding, more importantly overall impression is most pleasant


PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
rbelyell wrote:
Nice work andreas. You must be enjoying the gxr! Outside of the out of our league priced leica digital m's, the gxr is imo the best option for shooters of RF lenses.

To address michaels point, these canon rfs have always been way underrated, and leica owners certainly had a hand in that! I have the oh so tiny 28/3.5 and it is equally stunning, though i dont use that FL much at all on my gxr,
Tony


thank you Tony!
I am thoroughly enjoy using the GXR and it produces very beautiful images. However it made me even more aware of what an outstanding camera the NEX5N is too Wink

I should get that 28mm Canon lens, it won't be long before we have a FF M mount for our GXR, a NEX FF or alike and that 28mm will be very sweet Smile


PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Canon is great - it was a good response to Leica stuff

these pictures look like a paintings -

I love the rendering

Canon is famous for its bokeh

tf


PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yeah, I like the looks of the late, black-barreled Canons. Here's a shot of mine. That tiny little lump of a lens weighs more than a lot of larger 50s do.



Some shots with Kodak Plus-X Pan that expired in 1983:




PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
These photos are all very nice.


PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
trifox wrote:
Canon is great - it was a good response to Leica stuff

these pictures look like a paintings -

I love the rendering

Canon is famous for its bokeh

tf


I like the rendering too, specially it's bokeh.
Didn't know that canon RF galls was famous for it. Which other Canon RF glass is much recommended?
1.4/50 or speaking bokeh even better 1.5/50, 2/35, 3.5/100...??


PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
cooltouch wrote:
Yeah, I like the looks of the late, black-barreled Canons. Here's a shot of mine. That tiny little lump of a lens weighs more than a lot of larger 50s do.


the older chrome Serenar seem to sell more expensive in Japan than the later with the black focus ring, but I also read that the later versions could be the better performers? and could it be lighter in weight?


PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
hoanpham wrote:
These photos are all very nice.


thank you Hoan Smile


PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
What is the max usable ISO?


PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
kuuan wrote:
cooltouch wrote:
Yeah, I like the looks of the late, black-barreled Canons. Here's a shot of mine. That tiny little lump of a lens weighs more than a lot of larger 50s do.


the older chrome Serenar seem to sell more expensive in Japan than the later with the black focus ring, but I also read that the later versions could be the better performers? and could it be lighter in weight?


I dimly recall hearing similar comments about the black ones. Maybe better coatings, since they're the same optical formula?


PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hari wrote:
What is the max usable ISO?


you must mean of the Ricoh GXR M Hari, right?

I must say that I have been using the NEX5N for low light instead and only found one sample I had taken with the Ricoh @ISO 3200 which is the highest the M module goes:



a 100% crop


I don't have the storage where I keep this photos with me, so I had downloaded this from my flickr and applied some noise reduction in PS when preparing for upload here.

Originally it was taken as RAW, possibly the jpeg upload to my flickr hadn't any noise reduction applied but I don't remember for sure: http://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/8716641652/in/set-72157632037409165/lightbox/

If needed / requested I shall test the high ISO of the GXR M

cheers, andreas


PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
cooltouch wrote:
kuuan wrote:
cooltouch wrote:
Yeah, I like the looks of the late, black-barreled Canons. Here's a shot of mine. That tiny little lump of a lens weighs more than a lot of larger 50s do.


the older chrome Serenar seem to sell more expensive in Japan than the later with the black focus ring, but I also read that the later versions could be the better performers? and could it be lighter in weight?


I dimly recall hearing similar comments about the black ones. Maybe better coatings, since they're the same optical formula?


yes, I think that's it


PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
kuuan wrote:
trifox wrote:
Canon is great - it was a good response to Leica stuff

these pictures look like a paintings -

I love the rendering

Canon is famous for its bokeh

tf


I like the rendering too, specially it's bokeh.
Didn't know that canon RF galls was famous for it. Which other Canon RF glass is much recommended?
1.4/50 or speaking bokeh even better 1.5/50, 2/35, 3.5/100...??


you won't be disappointed with the 100 f3.5 - that is a killer

tf


PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
A lens that 20-25 years ago was regarded as being barely adequate, but these days has become highly prized and has just about quadrupled in value is the Canon LTM 50mm f/1.2. Here's a search string I ran at flickr.com:

http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=canon%20ltm%2050mm%20f%2F1.2

And one shot that looks like it was taken at f/1.2.:

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