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Canon LTM f1.8/50 ( on Ricoh GXR M )
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
thank you very much for the link of the flickr search Michael!
really stunning samples taken with the 1.2/50 there, particularly the wide open shots of a Mr. Stephen Lee, I guess of his son, check them out!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/zacharylee/3070153268/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/zacharylee/3069315673/
( the slight corners in the oof highlights in the sample you show suggest that the lens either was set to just a tad less than fully open or is slightly defective, doesn't fully open )

I believe that the sharpness of fast lenses often has been criticized by users who are not able to focus these lenses all that well, that enlarged digital view really helps and makes many of these lenses shine like never before


PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Here is boké examples from Canon LTM 50/1.4.

with NEX-5 wide open around 8m to the couple


with Fuji Reala + Leica M2 wide open


Ricoh GXR-M ~1.5m to the subject wide open


Ricoh GXR-M 2m to subject don't remember F-stop


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Very nice images made with that 50/1.8 lens. I love the bokeh!
I have one, but up to now never used it - have no mirrorless system camera at home.
The high weight of this lens is indeed a suprise.

LucisPictor wrote:
...I have been looking for this lens for quite a while now to see if it might be an alternative to the Russian 50mm lenses for Leica.
Unfortunately, this Canon is pretty expensive nowadays. Sad


Interesting news!
After the Xenon 25/0.95 loose its Ebay-value at least the Serenar gains value Smile


PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Here is another boké examples of Canon LTM 50/1.2.

TV screen M8 (this is not a boké sample) I guess at F2 ~ F2.8 not sure, exactly 3m to Tv screen


100% crop the above (You can see the pixels of a plasma screen)


Well controlled coma aberration wide open M8


less than 2m to subject wide open M8


fence wide open M8 "very typical Canon LTM lens' boké"


with milky lens 1m to subject (far glasses) RDPIII (Fuji Provia 100F)


after cleaning the lens with micro-cloth University ground @f5.6 with Ricoh GXR-M


PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
thank you very much for showing these samples Koji, impressive, these Canons have a very pleasing 'signature'. I am surprised that this comes as responses to my thread only showing two pics taken with the f1.8, as it must be a sign that there has not been much talking here about these lenses before.

but hey, I just got the 1.8/50, stop tempting me with the 1.4/50 and even more so with the f1.2!! Smile
joking aside, I much hope that mflenses members will share even more of their experience with Canon LTM lenses and show us their samples!


PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
kuuan wrote:
Hari wrote:
What is the max usable ISO?


you must mean of the Ricoh GXR M Hari, right?....

cheers, andreas


hm..no response to that, but anyhow I just decided to make a - only fast and dirty but nevertheless - ISO 1600 and ISO 3200 comparison of NEX5N and GXR M, see: http://forum.mflenses.com/high-iso-nex5n-ricoh-gxr-m-t60061.html


PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
kuuan wrote:
thank you very much for showing these samples Koji, impressive, these Canons have a very pleasing 'signature'. I am surprised that this comes as responses to my thread only showing two pics taken with the f1.8, as it must be a sign that there has not been much talking here about these lenses before.

but hey, I just got the 1.8/50, stop tempting me with the 1.4/50 and even more so with the f1.2!! Smile
joking aside, I much hope that mflenses members will share even more of their experience with Canon LTM lenses and show us their samples!


I am a hugh fan of the old Canon LTM lenses Very Happy

I have the black/ silver 100mm f/3.5, the black 100mm f/3.5, the black 50mm f/1.8, the silver 25mm f/3.5, the silver 135mm f/3.5 + this Serenar family below Wink



PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Wow Shocked
what a collection you have!


PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
3-wheels

Canon Ltm 50/1.2 at f1.2 on sony nex5n, no post processing. Click to enlarge (2048px).





PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nordentro wrote:
kuuan wrote:
thank you very much for showing these samples Koji, impressive, these Canons have a very pleasing 'signature'. I am surprised that this comes as responses to my thread only showing two pics taken with the f1.8, as it must be a sign that there has not been much talking here about these lenses before.

but hey, I just got the 1.8/50, stop tempting me with the 1.4/50 and even more so with the f1.2!! Smile
joking aside, I much hope that mflenses members will share even more of their experience with Canon LTM lenses and show us their samples!


I am a hugh fan of the old Canon LTM lenses Very Happy

I have the black/ silver 100mm f/3.5, the black 100mm f/3.5, the black 50mm f/1.8, the silver 25mm f/3.5, the silver 135mm f/3.5 + this Serenar family below Wink



wow, they are beautiful!
what an amazing collection you have.
Serenars are heavier than later Canon RF, right? Have you made any observations on how they perform?


PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
sure looks like a rather special lens, the f1.2, Hoan! thank you for your samples


PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I am not tempting you with the f1.2, but if you can get one fast 50, get the canon ltm 1.2.
It's not perfect, but the outcome do not need or very little post processing.
So far it is among my best f1.2 lenses. One thing i like specially about these ltm 50s is focus throw: from 1m to infinity is 180 degrees,
While pentax A 50/1.2 has only 90 degrees. OM 55/1.2 has ~60 degrees.


PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
hoanpham wrote:
I am not tempting you with the f1.2, but if you can get one fast 50, get the canon ltm 1.2.
It's not perfect, but the outcome do not need or very little post processing.
So far it is among my best f1.2 lenses. One thing i like specially about these ltm 50s is focus throw: from 1m to infinity is 180 degrees,
While pentax A 50/1.2 has only 90 degrees. OM 55/1.2 has ~60 degrees.


thank you for the feedback Hoan.
I have never yet owned nor shot a f1.2, even though I 'only' use my lenses on APS-C I never felt much urge to get one neither.
Great to know that the Canon LTM compares well against the best 1.2/50 LR lenses because for my mirrorless cams I much prefer the smaller size of the RF glass, so if I ever will get a f1.2 the Canon LTM just moved up top on priority list Wink
The focus throw of my f1.8 also is abt. 180 degrees but nevertheless I must admit that I don't like it's handling all that much. This because I still find it difficult to distinguishing focus ring and aperture ring, which have the exact same diameter and the same feeling grooves, by touch only. Using the lens more, and that's what I am doing right now, should improve that though Wink


PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
hoanpham wrote:
I am not tempting you with the f1.2, but if you can get one fast 50, get the canon ltm 1.2.
It's not perfect, but the outcome do not need or very little post processing.
So far it is among my best f1.2 lenses. One thing i like specially about these ltm 50s is focus throw: from 1m to infinity is 180 degrees,
While pentax A 50/1.2 has only 90 degrees. OM 55/1.2 has ~60 degrees.


This looks promising Hoan!

Very nicely presented for a f/1.2 lens! Very Happy
I bet this lens is a amazing portrait shooter as well, congratz with a real gem!

I would be happy to see a portrait using this lens wide open if you have the possibility Wink

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
kuuan wrote:
wow, they are beautiful!
what an amazing collection you have.
Serenars are heavier than later Canon RF, right? Have you made any observations on how they perform?


IMO, they are good performers, not top notch but good Wink
And yes, they feels like a bit heavier in general than the later Canon LTM lenses

The weakest of these must be the 135mm Serenar, it is better to go for the later 135mm LTM silver Canon. The 85mm is a good lens, but the later 85mm f/1.8 is supposed to be better!

The lenses are among my most beautiful ones, so you can say I have these also for collector reasons Wink

You should try the 85mm, prices used to be pretty low for this one..

http://forum.mflenses.com/canon-serenar-85mm-f-2-magical-wood-t50041,highlight,%2Bserenar.html


PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
thank's a lot for coming back and the additional information Nordentro
your f2/85 Serenar seems a very good performer, and your collection really is something Wink
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