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Attila
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Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 7:23 pm Post subject: Carl Zeiss Distagon 35mm f1.4 or Tevidon 35mm f1.9 |
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Attila wrote:
Tevidon is better I think sharper, better CA control and better contrast too. _________________ -------------------------------
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rbelyell
Joined: 13 Oct 2009 Posts: 4269 Location: somewhere in the mountains of central NY
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Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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rbelyell wrote:
wow! thats saying a lot. when i was shooting slr's the distagon was my most longed for lens. i thought i had not seen any better IQ from any lens. back then i thought the 35distagon, the 75 biotar and the 120 biometar and i'd never need another lens!
tony _________________ Epson RD1 + Elmarit 21/2.8; Summarit 50/1.5; Summarit 75/2.5; Elmar-c 90/4; Sankyo Komura 135/2.8, Hektor 135/4.5; Braun Paxina 29 6x6; Photax Boyer Paris; Holga 120 Pano
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Fuji GM670+100/3.5+65/8!
Praktisix 6x6 medium format + ZeissBiometar 120/2.8
Bessa T 101 Anniversary Edition in Navy Blue
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
rbelyell wrote: |
wow! thats saying a lot. when i was shooting slr's the distagon was my most longed for lens. i thought i had not seen any better IQ from any lens. back then i thought the 35distagon, the 75 biotar and the 120 biometar and i'd never need another lens!
tony |
Yes, I was shocked once I saw multiply times Tevidon is even better, I love also much another two what you mention. _________________ -------------------------------
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ManualFocus-G
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 6622 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
Not on full frame though _________________ Graham - Moderator
Shooter of choice: Fujifilm X-T20 with M42, PB and C/Y lenses
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ForenSeil
Joined: 15 Apr 2011 Posts: 2726 Location: Kiel, Germany.
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Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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ForenSeil wrote:
All Tevidons I've seen are very good indeed. How's corner performance on NEX?
Comparision is a slightly unfair as Disagon is a retrofocus design with FF coverage - Biogon 35/2 would be slightly less unfair _________________ I'm not a collector, I'm a tester
My camera: Sony A7+Zeiss Sonnar 55/1.8
Current favourite lenses (I have many more):
A few macro-Tominons, Samyang 12/2.8, Noritsu 50.7/9.5, Rodagon 105/5.6 on bellows, Samyang 135/2, Nikon ED 180/2.8, Leitz Elmar-R 250/4, Celestron C8 2000mm F10
Most wanted: Samyang 24/1.4, Samyang 35/1.4, Nikon 200/2 ED
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Come on who care full frame, edges, subject at center or 4/3 not at edges, I compare what I see on my pictures, everything else from my perspective not important _________________ -------------------------------
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
I will NEVER change my mind on the Distagon 1.4/35 even if you show me pictures made by God himself _________________ Orio, Administrator
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ManualFocus-G
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Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
No bias there then! _________________ Graham - Moderator
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Edge performance is important for many shots, especially architecture, landscapes and anything at infinity.
Also, the Tevidon is c-mount so no good for 35mm film. Unless I could find one cheap, wouldn't interest me as I could only use it on my NEX. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Orio wrote: |
I will NEVER change my mind on the Distagon 1.4/35 even if you show me pictures made by God himself |
Clear speak. _________________ -------------------------------
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Tomorrow I'm taking mine (Distagon) to a photo shooting with a model.
If there is need of wide angle I will use it (although I rarely shoot portraits outside the 50-135 range ) _________________ Orio, Administrator
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rbelyell
Joined: 13 Oct 2009 Posts: 4269 Location: somewhere in the mountains of central NY
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Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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rbelyell wrote:
orio it was a lot of your work with the distagon that led me to my opinion on it. your results with it are simply outstanding.
tony _________________ Epson RD1 + Elmarit 21/2.8; Summarit 50/1.5; Summarit 75/2.5; Elmar-c 90/4; Sankyo Komura 135/2.8, Hektor 135/4.5; Braun Paxina 29 6x6; Photax Boyer Paris; Holga 120 Pano
GREAT STUFF FOR SALE:
Contax T
Hasselblad XPan + 45/4, 90/4
Kodak Retina Reflex IV + full set of Schneider Krueznach lenses
Mercury 2 half frame 35mm
Kodak Pro slr/n
Fuji GM670+100/3.5+65/8!
Praktisix 6x6 medium format + ZeissBiometar 120/2.8
Bessa T 101 Anniversary Edition in Navy Blue
Mamiya Six Folder with Zuiko 75/3.5
Adaptall: Tamron SP 28-85 macro
Cameras: Canon IX
PM for more complete descriptions/pix. All in great shape!
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
rbelyell wrote: |
orio it was a lot of your work with the distagon that led me to my opinion on it. your results with it are simply outstanding.
tony |
Thanks Tony, I'm flattered! _________________ Orio, Administrator
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TSherman
Joined: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 9 Location: BC, Canada
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Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 3:19 am Post subject: |
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TSherman wrote:
Tevidon newbie question - does it cover 1.5x sensors? |
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Attila
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Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 3:33 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
TSherman wrote: |
Tevidon newbie question - does it cover 1.5x sensors? |
Yes, above 25mm all cover it, 25mm cover m4/3 , bellow 25mm lens has vignetting on m4/3. _________________ -------------------------------
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berraneck
Joined: 24 May 2009 Posts: 972 Location: prague, czech republic
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Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 9:41 am Post subject: |
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berraneck wrote:
attila...
1) it is no secret that lenses for larger format usually have worse resolution&IQ on smaller sensors. 6x7 medium format lenses such those for Mamiya7 system have resolution ~120 lpmm and are considered ultra-sharp, while on 24x36 sensor they would be maybe better average - f.e. Zeiss claims 400lpmm for their 25/2.8 biogon.
2) you are comparing ultrafast wide angle lens with normal lens. I can make same comparison using 5DmkII and what a surprise, Distagon will win - because Tevidon would vignette and won´t focus past macro distance
3) the worst thing, you are confusing newbies which don´t see the difference. many of us on the forum understand what you mean, but forum is also for newbies in mflenses, right? _________________ equipment doesn´t count, good photographs do |
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fermy
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Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 10:58 am Post subject: |
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fermy wrote:
Well, lenses for 35mm photography in general are the pinnacle of lens design. As a rule they are better corrected and surpass c-mounts and cine lenses for resolution. Perhaps only lately small sensor lenses appeared that are even sharper, e.g. native m4/3 primes, but those are complicated designs (9 elements in 8 groups with special glass for a mere 45/1.8 ) and they use tricks such as software correction for geometric distortion to achieve high resolution.
Therefore, I have serious doubts that Tevidon is sharper than Distagon, but if it is so, it's nothing short of amazing. _________________ Many lenses and some film bodies for sale here: http://forum.mflenses.com/canon-fd-minolta-md-c-mounts-m42-pentax-and-more-t50465.html
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Attila
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Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I saw 35mm f1.9 Tevidon is sharper wide open than Distagon at F2 and more impressed by Tevidon stopped down too. Certainly this is my impression only and even if may not true , good enough to hat off before Jena workers. According to Klaus this lens was selected by Nasa to a mission .. an eastern lens... say something. _________________ -------------------------------
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berraneck
Joined: 24 May 2009 Posts: 972 Location: prague, czech republic
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Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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berraneck wrote:
Attila wrote: |
I saw 35mm f1.9 Tevidon is sharper wide open than Distagon at F2 and more impressed by Tevidon stopped down too. |
I am not saying that Tevidon _on APS_ isn´t better. I am saying that it´s misleading to make general opinion of such a comparison, because you´re comparing fast wideangle for FF SLR and slow normal lens for smaller sensor. If you want slow normal for mirrorless camera, Tevidon is a great choice. If you fast wideangle for mirrorless camera, Tevidon is not an option - you would need something like 24/1.0 to achieve same FoV and DoF as Distagon on FF.
Attila wrote: |
Certainly this is my impression only and even if may not true , good enough to hat off before Jena workers. According to Klaus this lens was selected by Nasa to a mission .. an eastern lens... say something. |
well, good to know and congratulations to Jena technicians;) however how does it make difference for Tevidon being different kind of lens than Distagon? _________________ equipment doesn´t count, good photographs do |
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wuxiekeji
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Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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wuxiekeji wrote:
I'd also recommend checking out the Samyang (=Rokinon, etc.) 35/1.4. It's a holy god of an amazing lens for the price. Comes close to or even beats the Zeiss in many aspects, and is a fraction of the cost of the Zeiss 35. My only complaint is that the housing is plastic so I have to be careful carrying it around on hikes and whatnot. But the images are superb, or at least my copy of it is. Comes in a very affordable video version too (=declicked aperture + cine focus gears) if you like doing video. _________________ Canon EOS 6D | Canon EOS 60D | Canon EOS-M | Voigtlander Nokton 1.4/35 | Zeiss Distagon C-Y 4/18 | Zeiss Distagon ZF 2/28 | Samyang 1.4/35 | Zeiss Planar C-Y 1.4/50 | Zeiss Planar C-Y 1.4/85 | Zeiss Makro-Planar C-Y 2.8/100 | Zeiss Sonnar C-Y 2.8/135 | Nikkor ED Ai-S 2.8/180 | Canon FD SSC Fluorite 2.8/300 | Tair-3S 4.5/300 |
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