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Carl Zeiss Distagon 35mm f1.4 or Tevidon 35mm f1.9
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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 7:23 pm    Post subject: Carl Zeiss Distagon 35mm f1.4 or Tevidon 35mm f1.9 Reply with quote

Tevidon is better I think Embarassed sharper, better CA control and better contrast too.


PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow! thats saying a lot. when i was shooting slr's the distagon was my most longed for lens. i thought i had not seen any better IQ from any lens. back then i thought the 35distagon, the 75 biotar and the 120 biometar and i'd never need another lens!
tony


PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rbelyell wrote:
wow! thats saying a lot. when i was shooting slr's the distagon was my most longed for lens. i thought i had not seen any better IQ from any lens. back then i thought the 35distagon, the 75 biotar and the 120 biometar and i'd never need another lens!
tony

Yes, I was shocked once I saw multiply times Tevidon is even better, I love also much another two what you mention.


PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not on full frame though Wink Laughing


PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All Tevidons I've seen are very good indeed. How's corner performance on NEX?

Comparision is a slightly unfair as Disagon is a retrofocus design with FF coverage - Biogon 35/2 would be slightly less unfair Wink


PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Come on who care full frame, edges, subject at center or 4/3 not at edges, I compare what I see on my pictures, everything else from my perspective not important Laughing

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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will NEVER change my mind on the Distagon 1.4/35 even if you show me pictures made by God himself Laughing Laughing


PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No bias there then! Laughing Laughing


PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Edge performance is important for many shots, especially architecture, landscapes and anything at infinity.

Also, the Tevidon is c-mount so no good for 35mm film. Unless I could find one cheap, wouldn't interest me as I could only use it on my NEX.


PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Orio wrote:
I will NEVER change my mind on the Distagon 1.4/35 even if you show me pictures made by God himself Laughing Laughing


Laughing Laughing Laughing Clear speak.


PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing
Tomorrow I'm taking mine (Distagon) to a photo shooting with a model.
If there is need of wide angle I will use it (although I rarely shoot portraits outside the 50-135 range )


PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

orio it was a lot of your work with the distagon that led me to my opinion on it. your results with it are simply outstanding.
tony


PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rbelyell wrote:
orio it was a lot of your work with the distagon that led me to my opinion on it. your results with it are simply outstanding.
tony


Thanks Tony, I'm flattered!


PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tevidon newbie question - does it cover 1.5x sensors?


PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TSherman wrote:
Tevidon newbie question - does it cover 1.5x sensors?


Yes, above 25mm all cover it, 25mm cover m4/3 , bellow 25mm lens has vignetting on m4/3.


PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

attila...
1) it is no secret that lenses for larger format usually have worse resolution&IQ on smaller sensors. 6x7 medium format lenses such those for Mamiya7 system have resolution ~120 lpmm and are considered ultra-sharp, while on 24x36 sensor they would be maybe better average - f.e. Zeiss claims 400lpmm for their 25/2.8 biogon.
2) you are comparing ultrafast wide angle lens with normal lens. I can make same comparison using 5DmkII and what a surprise, Distagon will win - because Tevidon would vignette and won´t focus past macro distance Rolling Eyes
3) the worst thing, you are confusing newbies which don´t see the difference. many of us on the forum understand what you mean, but forum is also for newbies in mflenses, right?


PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, lenses for 35mm photography in general are the pinnacle of lens design. As a rule they are better corrected and surpass c-mounts and cine lenses for resolution. Perhaps only lately small sensor lenses appeared that are even sharper, e.g. native m4/3 primes, but those are complicated designs (9 elements in 8 groups with special glass for a mere 45/1.8 ) and they use tricks such as software correction for geometric distortion to achieve high resolution.

Therefore, I have serious doubts that Tevidon is sharper than Distagon, but if it is so, it's nothing short of amazing.


PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw 35mm f1.9 Tevidon is sharper wide open than Distagon at F2 and more impressed by Tevidon stopped down too. Certainly this is my impression only and even if may not true , good enough to hat off before Jena workers. According to Klaus this lens was selected by Nasa to a mission .. an eastern lens... say something.


PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Attila wrote:
I saw 35mm f1.9 Tevidon is sharper wide open than Distagon at F2 and more impressed by Tevidon stopped down too.
I am not saying that Tevidon _on APS_ isn´t better. I am saying that it´s misleading to make general opinion of such a comparison, because you´re comparing fast wideangle for FF SLR and slow normal lens for smaller sensor. If you want slow normal for mirrorless camera, Tevidon is a great choice. If you fast wideangle for mirrorless camera, Tevidon is not an option - you would need something like 24/1.0 to achieve same FoV and DoF as Distagon on FF.

Attila wrote:
Certainly this is my impression only and even if may not true , good enough to hat off before Jena workers. According to Klaus this lens was selected by Nasa to a mission .. an eastern lens... say something.
well, good to know and congratulations to Jena technicians;) however how does it make difference for Tevidon being different kind of lens than Distagon? Smile


PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd also recommend checking out the Samyang (=Rokinon, etc.) 35/1.4. It's a holy god of an amazing lens for the price. Comes close to or even beats the Zeiss in many aspects, and is a fraction of the cost of the Zeiss 35. My only complaint is that the housing is plastic so I have to be careful carrying it around on hikes and whatnot. But the images are superb, or at least my copy of it is. Comes in a very affordable video version too (=declicked aperture + cine focus gears) if you like doing video.