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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 4:19 am Post subject: St George's at Sunset |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
This church is close to my house and it is on a hill so the last light of day always makes for dramatic lighting and long shadows.
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Century Graphic 23 with 6x9 rollfilm back. First one is with Schneider Angulon 6.8/65 at f22, second two are Mamiya Sekor 2.8/80 at f22.
No PP, just as they came out of my old Epson Perfection 3200.
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Orio
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Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 5:46 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Last one is excellent for both light and subject (I would only fix horizon a little) _________________ Orio, Administrator
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 6:44 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Cheers Orio. That's about my tenth attempt at capturing that scene at sunset over the last few years, finally got one that isn't spilt by flare or some technical issue.
I've agonised about the horizon, it doesn't quite look right but the verticals are all properly vertical so it must be level, it must be due to none of the land you can see (apart from the cricket pitch) being level, it's all hills. If you look at the telegraph pole right of centre, you can see it's vertical rather than off-kilter. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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nurkov
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Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 9:49 am Post subject: |
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nurkov wrote:
very nice I would pp a bit but still very impressive _________________ http://www.flickr.com/photos/34787419@N08/
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Cheers, the great light made all the difference, I've shot the same scenes a few times before and had less nice results, great light is a rare thing here.
I tried some PP and couldn't com up with a version I thought was an improvement, but I'm always happy to hear some suggestions. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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nurkov
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Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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nurkov wrote:
I don't know it all depends on what you like, there is always something you can do
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Ooh, that's interesting, cheers, always like to see alternatives, I like that, looks like the tonal scale has been expanded and I always like that, narrow dynamic range isn't often to my taste. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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DigiChromeEd
Joined: 29 Dec 2009 Posts: 3460 Location: Northern Ireland
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Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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DigiChromeEd wrote:
Ian, I hope you don't mind but I've made a slight adjustment to your image. To my eye, the verticals are still a bit off, so I have tweaked them a bit and adjusted levels slightly.
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Attila
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Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I like Nurkov bright version a lot. _________________ -------------------------------
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Hi Ed, I don't mind at all, I think you've improved it, cheers. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Orio
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Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Attila wrote: |
I like Nurkov bright version a lot. |
I don't (sorry Nurkov ) . It looks like a 70's photocopy to me (you know, those made on that thick sort-of-greasy paper)
iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
I've agonised about the horizon, it doesn't quite look right but the verticals are all properly vertical so it must be level, it must be due to none of the land you can see (apart from the cricket pitch) being level, it's all hills. If you look at the telegraph pole right of centre, you can see it's vertical rather than off-kilter. |
About the horizon, I usually don't trust phone poles, because they tend to get inclined with the years. What I do is to check the houses,
they are the most reliable reference.
If you look at your houses, they're perfect on the left side of picture, but inclined on the right side of picture.
This means that one side (left) is over-corrected, at the expense of the other - and of the horizon.
What you want to do in this case, is to rebalance the picture so that both the houses at left and right are inclined by the same amount of inclination.
When you get that, it means that your horizon is now correct, and that the houses have all the same amount of inclination that was introduced
originally by the wide angle lens not being perfectly leveled perpendicularly. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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nurkov
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Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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nurkov wrote:
iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
Ooh, that's interesting, cheers, always like to see alternatives, I like that, looks like the tonal scale has been expanded and I always like that, narrow dynamic range isn't often to my taste. |
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nurkov
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nurkov wrote:
Attila wrote: |
I like Nurkov bright version a lot. |
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nurkov
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Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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nurkov wrote:
[quote="Orio"]
Attila wrote: |
I like Nurkov bright version a lot. |
I don't (sorry Nurkov ) . It looks like a 70's photocopy to me (you know, those made on that thick sort-of-greasy paper)
[quote="iangreenhalgh1"]
No hard feelings _________________ http://www.flickr.com/photos/34787419@N08/
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Orio wrote: |
About the horizon, I usually don't trust phone poles, because they tend to get inclined with the years. What I do is to check the houses,
they are the most reliable reference.
If you look at your houses, they're perfect on the left side of picture, but inclined on the right side of picture.
This means that one side (left) is over-corrected, at the expense of the other - and of the horizon.
What you want to do in this case, is to rebalance the picture so that both the houses at left and right are inclined by the same amount of inclination.
When you get that, it means that your horizon is now correct, and that the houses have all the same amount of inclination that was introduced
originally by the wide angle lens not being perfectly leveled perpendicularly. |
Aha, I see the problem now, as you say, the houses on the left are vertical, the ones on the right aren't. Thanks for taking the time to explain it, useful for me to know for future reference. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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TVR
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Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 2:47 am Post subject: |
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TVR wrote:
Ian, here is my version with lightroom
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 3:15 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Ooh, now that one I do like, looks much crisper than the original, cheers! _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 8:39 am Post subject: |
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ForenSeil wrote:
iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
Ooh, now that one I do like, looks much crisper than the original, cheers! |
+1, looks much better indeed _________________ I'm not a collector, I'm a tester
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 9:12 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
To be fair, the original is closer to how it looked to the naked eye, it was a full 1 second exposure at f22 as the light was fading and it was very hazy. The PP has cut the haze away, I suppose using a yellow filter would have done something similar, but coloured filters for BW are something I have barely played with so far, it's something I plan to explore in the near future though. My rationale for not using them much so far is digital processing can do the same job. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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