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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 4:20 am Post subject: Ilford FP4+ in Kodak Microdol-X, Computar 2.8/28 |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
This is a lens that is very uncommon and with no info available, I think it is made by Kowa. It's very sharp, good contrast, only weakness I have found so far is some vignetting wide open and at f4. I'm really starting to like the tonality of FP4 in Microdol-X, I rate it at 64 and pull developing time by 15%. This gives a wide tonal range with good shadow and highlight detail and excellent grain. Not bad for 20 year old film.
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Attila
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Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
#5 and #8 eight to me, all pretty soft. _________________ -------------------------------
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BKSPicture
Joined: 22 Aug 2012 Posts: 426 Location: Sverige
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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BKSPicture wrote:
Looks very nice!!
Like #5 the best, thanks for sharing. _________________ Homepage: http://www.bkspicture.com/
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Cheers. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Katastrofo
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10405 Location: USA
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:44 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Strong set, like 5 for comp, too, nice shot of your mum as well. |
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 2:20 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Cheers Bill. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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ForenSeil
Joined: 15 Apr 2011 Posts: 2726 Location: Kiel, Germany.
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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ForenSeil wrote:
#2 and clearly #5 for me. They have rich detail - I don't think it's soft. Tonality is very nice. _________________ I'm not a collector, I'm a tester
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Most wanted: Samyang 24/1.4, Samyang 35/1.4, Nikon 200/2 ED
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8979 Location: Australia
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 1:38 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
I like 2,3,4.I think you have captured the trees and subtle light nicely (esp #3). I do like looking at the branches against the sky it seems B&W is made for this type of image.I am sure there is room for improvement,trying different viewpoints times of day etc I also like the busted down door.
Potential dumb question alert.....Have you ever gone back and reworked a negative? I am not sure how well you can manipulate a negative to get a slightly different result in tones etc? _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
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Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 1:47 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
mo wrote: |
I like 2,3,4.I think you have captured the trees and subtle light nicely (esp #3). I do like looking at the branches against the sky it seems B&W is made for this type of image.I am sure there is room for improvement,trying different viewpoints times of day etc I also like the busted down door.
Potential dumb question alert.....Have you ever gone back and reworked a negative? I am not sure how well you can manipulate a negative to get a slightly different result in tones etc? |
Manipulate scanned picture in Photoshop. _________________ -------------------------------
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:44 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
mo wrote: |
I am not sure how well you can manipulate a negative to get a slightly different result in tones etc? |
Tones manipulation on a B&W negative requires a long work of selection of parts.
It's much easier with colour negatives, there you can use the colour conversion to manipulate tones. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
All I tend to do is use shadows/highlights in photoshop to adjust the brightness of the shadows and highlights, but I usually only do that if the development/exposure was less than ideal, and that's usually with unusual, tricky film stocks like microfilm, if the development/exposure was correct then the tonality and highlight/shadow detail should be fine and no processing is needed, although sometimes I do tweak the contrast/brightness a bit. By and large, I try to avoid doing any processing of my BW film shots but if I can improve a picture with some processing, I will do, I see it as being the same thing as burning and dodging and selecting different filters or paper grades in the traditional darkroom process.
I am finding, with FP4 or FP4+ developed in Microdol-X diluted 1:3, that I rarely have to do any processing as I'm getting beautiful tonality and good detail in both shadows and highlights. There was a fairly famous British freelance photographer in the 70s/80s called Raymond Lea, he always used FP4 in 1:3 Microdol-X as he said it gave him the easiest to print negatives he ever saw. That was what put me onto this combo and my experience is the same - I just scan em and post em, they don't need any processing 99% of the time. I wasn't so keen on FP4 or FP4+ until I tried it with Microdol-X 1:3, now I really love it. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8979 Location: Australia
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:44 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
Thank you all for answering,I learned a lot out of those replies.keep going Ian it seems you are on the right track. _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
Lenses
Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:19 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Cheers Mo, I'm just shamelessly copying the techniques of the masters of the past, film is old technology so the best techniques were developed a long time ago. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8979 Location: Australia
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:51 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
I don't think you are...why reinvent the wheel when its already here to be copied. It s the fact you are using the old technology/knowledge that keeps it alive and still available today.Its when it dies a silent death and nobody knows what to do in the future,assuming film will still be around then. _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
Lenses
Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Cheers Mo. I agree, why re-invent the wheel. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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