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Attila
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 6:13 pm Post subject: Leica R4, R5, R6 |
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Attila wrote:
According to local shop owner very common to get faulty item, he said every second has faulty.
What is your experience ? _________________ -------------------------------
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Orio
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
I never considered Leica R cameras, they are too much expensive for their real value and much more technologically retarded compared to Contax SLR cameras.
An example? A Leica R7 or R8, which are plain jane cameras, cost more than a Contax RTS III which has vacuum flattened film, or a Contax AX which has autofocus via shifting film plane,
both technological features that were light years ahead of Leica. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Attila
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Orio wrote: |
I never considered Leica R cameras, they are too much expensive for their real value and much more technologically retarded compared to Contax SLR cameras.
An example? A Leica R7 or R8, which are plain jane cameras, cost more than a Contax RTS III which has vacuum flattened film, or a Contax AX which has autofocus via shifting film plane,
both technological features that were light years ahead of Leica. |
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Esox lucius
Joined: 26 Aug 2008 Posts: 2441 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:55 pm Post subject: Re: Leica R4, R5, R6 |
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Esox lucius wrote:
Attila wrote: |
According to local shop owner very common to get faulty item, he said every second has faulty.
What is your experience ? |
Same experience based on Leica R5 & R6. Trigger spring, film winding lever, the mount (gets loose), body screws unscrewing themselves, lenses unscrewing themselves to pieces... Still better though than Hasselblad, which you have to own 3 of in order to keep shooting: one in use, one in repair, one in the mail making its way back from service. |
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Attila
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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 1:04 am Post subject: Re: Leica R4, R5, R6 |
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Attila wrote:
Esox lucius wrote: |
Attila wrote: |
According to local shop owner very common to get faulty item, he said every second has faulty.
What is your experience ? |
Same experience based on Leica R5 & R6. Trigger spring, film winding lever, the mount (gets loose), body screws unscrewing themselves, lenses unscrewing themselves to pieces... Still better though than Hasselblad, which you have to own 3 of in order to keep shooting: one in use, one in repair, one in the mail making its way back from service. |
Damn , looks like luxury items even worst than mass produced ones. I never thought this result before, I did try a Leica R4 she did look factory new, but light meter did give false reading even with fresh proper batteries, _________________ -------------------------------
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Esox lucius
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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:07 am Post subject: Re: Leica R4, R5, R6 |
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Esox lucius wrote:
Attila wrote: |
Damn , looks like luxury items even worst than mass produced ones. I never thought this result before, I did try a Leica R4 she did look factory new, but light meter did give false reading even with fresh proper batteries, |
It took some while before A) the Canadian production was up to the quality of Leitz and B) the people at Leica understood that "less expensive" R-model does not mean "shit". They improved and R7, R8 and R9 are splendid machines (R4 to R6 are more or less trial versions).
Check voltage on batteries, in 95% of cases wrong metering on Leica is explained by that - the R's center-weighted meter was one of the best of its time. |
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hexi
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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 1:07 am Post subject: |
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hexi wrote:
Hi
I lately tried and kept the Leica R7. I didn't knew what to expect, but after a few films done, this is a real good camera, fits great in hand, logically disposed pads, very good light metering ( you have 5 modes ) and you can't say this is a bad camera, especially if you haven't tried it. It's a totally another conception of camera than Contax that's for sure, to each their own.
I was also a bit mixed as about the comparison with the Zeiss, some say that the Summicron is the best lens in the world. Ok it's good, i wasn't impressed, but began to appreciate it more and more, so with some time it'll match the Planar _________________ Happy owner and user of :
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Rolf
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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 8:51 am Post subject: |
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Rolf wrote:
It is common knowledge, that Leica have had a lot of problems with R4 when this modell joined the market.
I own a R7 and I never had any problem with this cam. I own also a RTSIII which is also a perfect cam, but try to get a spare part for this cam and you will see the differences.
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OPAL
Joined: 11 Dec 2012 Posts: 354
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Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 6:50 am Post subject: LEICA R |
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OPAL wrote:
Rolf wrote: |
It is common knowledge, that Leica have had a lot of problems with R4 when this modell joined the market.
I own a R7 and I never had any problem with this cam. I own also a RTSIII which is also a perfect cam, but try to get a spare part for this cam and you will see the differences.
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Since the new CMOS Leica M is coming, which allows to adapt Leica-R lenses with an special R-adapter, all Leica R SLR-bodies are staying like lead at the photo shops. This includes also the R8/R9 models.
The spare parts for the R4 etc. are getting short too, so I like the stable Contax RTSIII better! |
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