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What interchangeable film rangefinders do you use ? |
Leica M |
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8% |
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Canon P ,7,L ,VI ,Nicca ,Leotax |
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4% |
[ 1 ] |
Contax I ,II, III ,Kiev , |
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34% |
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Konica Hexar RF , |
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0% |
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Fed ,Zorky |
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26% |
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Minolta CL , 35 |
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0% |
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Contax G |
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4% |
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Zeiss Ikon ZI, ZM |
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4% |
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Voigtlander Bessa /Rollei |
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17% |
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Werra |
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0% |
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yinyangbt
Joined: 08 Oct 2010 Posts: 1973 Location: Romania
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 8:59 pm Post subject: Interchangeable lens rangefinders (35mm) |
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yinyangbt wrote:
What rangefinder do you use (interchangeable lens ) .If you ude more , and the pool allows only one , please mention in your answer wich are those you use , and wich you prefer.
For the moment , I have only a Kiev IIa and a Fed 5B . I really love the Kiev ,but I don't mind shooting with the Fed _________________ Cheers , Teo
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
I use Zeiss Ikon, Contax II and IIa, Contax G2.
The one I use most today is the Zeiss Ikon because it is manual and has aperture priority mode which is important for snapshots.
The metering in aperture priority is very efficient and so far it never missed one photo for me.
The Contax G2 is my camera of choice for vacations, because it is autofocus, which is nice for vacations when photograph is not
my first priority, because the motor film advance is another less thing to think about on vacations, and because two G2 cameras with the
set of 21, 28, 35, 45 and 90 mm lenses all fit inside a 25x15 cm bag.
The Contax II and IIa are my collectioner's luxury items. Of course they are not ideal for intensive use because they have no light meter (and
consequently no aperture priority mode), and because changing film is not really comfortable. However differently from most collectioners, I do use my Contax IIs regularly. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I use my Kievs all the time, for me, not having a light meter is fine as I always use a handheld meter anyways. I actually like the film loading of the Kiev/Contax, although I do prefer the fixed takeup spool in my Kiev 4, I use a spool from an Exakta in my Kiev 2. If we're talking annoying and fiddly film loading, all the Leicas where you have to take the bottom off are far worse imho, only tried it once, decided it wasn't for me. Just wish I could afford a 21mm for Kiev/Contax. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I am Kiev/Contax fan boy _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Attila wrote: |
I am Kiev/Contax fan boy |
Me too _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7788 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
Out of the many cameras I have the only interchangeable lens rangefinder I have is my lovely Zorki 4K. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
I have loads of stuff that I have to get rid of, if you see me commenting about something I have got and you want one, ask me.
My Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/mudplugga/
My ipernity -
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Lloydy wrote: |
Out of the many cameras I have the only interchangeable lens rangefinder I have is my lovely Zorki 4K. |
I do like the Feds and Zorkis (BTW my mint Fed 4 seems to have developed a shutter fault, so you can have it to play with if you think you might be able to fix it) but I haven't used them more than once or twice since I got my first Kiev.
Of course, you can put a J8 on either a Fed, Zorki or Kiev, but the Helios-103 is Kiev only and that is almost enough reason alone to get a Kiev imho.
I will have to lens you some of my Kiev kit sometime, I have a fair bit of it now, but I warn you, you might become immediately enamoured like I did and have to invest in some of your own! _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7788 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 12:14 am Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
That's a deal Ian, we'll be up soon after Christmas. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
I have loads of stuff that I have to get rid of, if you see me commenting about something I have got and you want one, ask me.
My Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/mudplugga/
My ipernity -
http://www.ipernity.com/home/294337 |
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 12:22 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Lloydy wrote: |
That's a deal Ian, we'll be up soon after Christmas. |
Look forward to it _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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ForenSeil
Joined: 15 Apr 2011 Posts: 2726 Location: Kiel, Germany.
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:22 am Post subject: |
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ForenSeil wrote:
I'm not sure which one I would recommend
Price/Performance: Zorki and Fed
Lifetime-Investment which will last for many decades: Leica M
If you want automatic: Zeiss Ikon
If you wan't AF: Contax G2
I disliked the Voigtländer Bessas I had and tried - bright viewfinder but very small RF-base and loud.
You should get an Minolta CLE instead imho. _________________ I'm not a collector, I'm a tester
My camera: Sony A7+Zeiss Sonnar 55/1.8
Current favourite lenses (I have many more):
A few macro-Tominons, Samyang 12/2.8, Noritsu 50.7/9.5, Rodagon 105/5.6 on bellows, Samyang 135/2, Nikon ED 180/2.8, Leitz Elmar-R 250/4, Celestron C8 2000mm F10
Most wanted: Samyang 24/1.4, Samyang 35/1.4, Nikon 200/2 ED
My Blog: http://picturechemistry.own-blog.com/
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 4:01 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I'd plump for the Kiev for price/performance, far better camera than the screw mount leica copies.
Arguably, you could make a Kiev a lifetime investment too, they last for decades, my 1957 one still works perfectly in all regards and I'm sure if I ever sell it I'll be able to get more for it that I paid for it. Optically, the J8, J9, J11 and J12 are all superb, if you have the 1950s red P ones, they really aren't that far from the Zeiss they are copied from, just as the 1950s Kievs are really just Contaxes with a Ukranian flavour.
I think a lot of people are put off rangefinders because they think it's very costly, but thanks to Communism it doesn't have to be. A good Kiev is still a very viable daily shooter, I use mine most days and it hasn't let me down yet. Mine has never been serviced but the fastest shutter speed is still 1/950 when it was measured with an electronic shutter tester, that's a pretty impressive testament to the soundness of the shutter design and shows that, despite what some say about Russian quality, they could make good stuff.
Then there's the Helios-103, hard to argue against a Summicron copy, brand new for 20ukp. A Kiev with Helios-103 could be a viable low cost option to an M3 with Summicron.
Altogther, my Kiev II, Kiev IV, J-8, J9, J11, J12, Helios-103 and turret multifinder cost me about 150ukp.
I'm not saying there's anything wrong with a Fed or Zorki, but they were mass market consumer cameras and are less advanced with less good viewfinders and rangefinders than the Kiev and a lower quality overall, the Kiev was a professional camera made in much smaller numbers and cost a lot more but these days the lenses are cheaper than the M39 versions and the cameras are often not more expensive than a Fed or Zorki and more likely to be in full working order. Also, the Kiev has a 1/1000 shutter speed which I find really is a useful thing to have instead of 1/500.
BTW, I know the top speed of a Kiev is marker 1/1250 but I doubt many of them can do better than 1/1000, same is true of Contaxes though and many say Zeiss just called it 1/1250 optimistically and to trump the Leica's 1/1000. I'd take the metal blind shutter over the cloth curtain types anyday though. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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tikkathree
Joined: 19 Jun 2010 Posts: 755 Location: Lovely Suffolk in Great Britain
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:06 am Post subject: |
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tikkathree wrote:
You guys, you guys...
so now I'm going to EBay and searching for Kiev... _________________ I used to think digital was fun but then I discovered film, then I found old lenses and then, eventually I found rangefinders.
EOS 5DII, loadsalenses
Canon G9 IR conv,
MF: TLR, 645 and folders
35mm: Oly OM Pro bodies 1, 2, 3 and 4; Soviet RF kit |
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yinyangbt
Joined: 08 Oct 2010 Posts: 1973 Location: Romania
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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yinyangbt wrote:
tikkathree wrote: |
You guys, you guys...
so now I'm going to EBay and searching for Kiev... |
It's wonderful camera ! _________________ Cheers , Teo
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
tikkathree wrote: |
You guys, you guys...
so now I'm going to EBay and searching for Kiev... |
If you find one in unknown stage usually they are works, but count speeds above 1/125 to half. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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skida
Joined: 02 Mar 2012 Posts: 1826 Location: North East England
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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skida wrote:
None of the above. |
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Jesito
Joined: 24 Aug 2007 Posts: 5745 Location: Olivella, Catalonia, (Spain)
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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Jesito wrote:
I use Bessa (R,L), Kiev II, FED-2 and Zorki.
Difficult to select one only...
Jes. _________________ Jesito, Moderator
Jesito's backsack:
Zooms Sigma 70-300, Tamron 35-135 and 70-210 short, 70-210 long, 28-70 CF Macro, 35-70, 35-80, Vivitar 70-210 KA, Tamron 70-250.
Fixed Industar-50, , Tamron 24mm, Tamron 135mm, Sands Hunter 135mm, Pancolar 50mm, Volna-3, many Exakta lenses
DSLR SIGMA SD9 & SD14, EOS 5D, Sony A700 and NEXF3, Oly E-330, E-400, E-450, E-1
TLR/6x6/645 YashicaMat, Petri 6x45, Nettar, Franka Solida, Brilliant
SLR Minolta X300, Fuji STX II, Praktica VLC3, Pentax P30t, EXA500, EXA 1A, Spotmatic(2), Chinon CM-4S, Ricoh, Contax, Konica TC-X , Minolta 5000, 7000i, 3Sxi, EOS 500 and CX
Rangefinders Chinon 35EE, Konica C35 auto, Canonet 28, Yashica Lynx, FED-2, Yashica electro 35, Argus C3 & C4, Regula Cita III, Voigtlander Vitoret (many), Welta Welti-I, Kodak Signette 35, Zorki-4, Bessa-R & L, Minolta Weathermatic, olympus XA2
Compact Film Konica C35V, Voigtlander Vitorets, Canon Prima Super 105, Olympus XA2 and XA3
Compact Digital Olympus C-5050, Aiptek Slim 3000, Canon Powershot A540, Nikon 5200, SIGMA DP1s, Polaroid X530, IXUS55, Kodak 6490, Powershot G9 and G10
CSCCanon EOS-M, Samsung NX100 and NX210, Lumix G5, NEX-F3 |
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Attila
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Jesito wrote: |
I use Bessa (R,L), Kiev II, FED-2 and Zorki.
Difficult to select one only...
Jes. |
+1 we are not traveler mostly, subject pretty much same, one camera give less joy than more camera at least to me. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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yinyangbt
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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yinyangbt wrote:
skida wrote: |
None of the above. |
Did I missed one category ? _________________ Cheers , Teo
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womble
Joined: 28 Sep 2009 Posts: 987 Location: Hertfordshire
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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womble wrote:
Well at the moment I'm using a Werra IV...
I do have a FED2 (probably my most used rangefinder) and a Zorkii 4 (didn't get on with that one so well) as well as a Moscow V.
K, _________________ Kris Lockyear
Digital: Pentax K-3iii
35mm film SLRs: various Pentax bodies from a H2 to a SF7, favourites the MX and LX
Rangefinder: Zeiss Super Ikonta IV, FED2, Zorkii-4, Industar 26m, Jupiter 8, 11 and 12 lenses
Medium format: various folders, Yashica Mat 124 G. Lubitel 2
LF: Horseman LE 5x4 view camera.
MF lenses (favourites) Pentax "K" 200mm f/2.5; "K" 135mm f/2.5; "K" 50mm f/1.2; "K" 35mm f/2; "K" 30mm f/2.8; "K" 28mm f/3.5 shift; "K" 15mm f/3.5; M 100mm f/2.8; M 40mm f/2.8; Jupiter-9 85mm |
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
yinyangbt wrote: |
skida wrote: |
None of the above. |
Did I missed one category ? |
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There's a few you could add - Braun Super Paxette, Kodak Retina IIIc, Lordonar Lordomat, Voigtlander Vitessa, Voigtlander Prominant, Kodak Ektar, Ilford Witnes (okay those last two are pretty rare) and a few more, but you got all the main ones. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
womble wrote: |
Well at the moment I'm using a Werra IV...
I do have a FED2 (probably my most used rangefinder) and a Zorkii 4 (didn't get on with that one so well) as well as a Moscow V.
K, |
Damn, Werra 3 and above probably best RF what I ever used , please extend pool. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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hoanpham
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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hoanpham wrote:
I have a Diax 1a that is not listing here, but only with 3 lenses 90mm, 45mm and 35mm.
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Minolfan
Joined: 30 Dec 2008 Posts: 3438 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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Minolfan wrote:
I cannot choose for my Werra! |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:34 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Minolfan wrote: |
I cannot choose for my Werra! |
I did modify it with Werra, no more room left. No Altix, Diax etc _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Minolfan
Joined: 30 Dec 2008 Posts: 3438 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:13 am Post subject: |
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Minolfan wrote:
And now I cannot change anymore, had chosen the Fed, because a choice for my favorite Werra was not available |
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