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peterqd
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 5:44 pm Post subject: Advice on developing old 620 film |
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peterqd wrote:
I never find any nice old gear whenever I look in my local charity shop, I think they must sell it on Ebay if they ever get any. There was just a Pentax MZ50 and 18-55 kit lens there yesterday. But on the bric-a-brac shelf, mixed up with all the old junk, was a Kodak Brownie Box camera which I had a little play with. And inside was an exposed roll of 620 film fully wound. I told the girl in the shop that the two reels are worth more that the whole camera! She let me take the exposed film on the promise that I would show her the negatives when they're developed.
So, I need some advice please about developing. The film is labelled "Kodacolor-X colour negative 620 film". There's no indication of the speed or the correct developing process.
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Orio
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Kodacolor-X (CX)
Speed: 64/19° (early) 80/20° (late)
Process: C-22
Format: 35 mm, 120, 620, 116, 616, 126, 127, 828
Introduced: 1963
Discontinued: 1974
Kodacolor-X was a color negative film manufactured by Eastman Kodak between 1963 and 1974. It was introduced along with the Kodak Instamatic cameras which used 126 film.
The film was designed to be processed in the C-22 process, which was the predecessor to today's C-41 process.
Only a few specialty labs still process this film, due to the length of discontinuation. Surviving exposed (but unproceesed) Kodacolor-X and C-22 films can still yield color images, although this requires highly specialist development techniques.
Source: Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kodacolor_(still_photography) _________________ Orio, Administrator
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peterqd
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
Thanks Orio, it never occurred to me to Google it or look on Wikipaedia.
There's a lab not too far from me that will develop C-22 film (and many other discontinued types). £20 a roll for negs only. If I knew the provenance of this roll that might be worth paying, but that's a lot of money for 6 or 8 unknown pictures, on the slim chance there might be some that have survived, even if they were properly exposed etc. I was hoping there might be some workaround using B&W chemicals. _________________ Peter - Moderator |
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Orio
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
peterqd wrote: |
Thanks Orio, it never occurred to me to Google it or look on Wikipaedia.
There's a lab not too far from me that will develop C-22 film (and many other discontinued types). £20 a roll for negs only. If I knew the provenance of this roll that might be worth paying, but that's a lot of money for 6 or 8 unknown pictures, on the slim chance there might be some that have survived, even if they were properly exposed etc. I was hoping there might be some workaround using B&W chemicals. |
Well, that would be interesting to see though. Aren't you curious? If I had the roll, I'd die to know _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Attila
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Chance to get nothing on roll 90% chance to get crap another 10% even b&w film after 30+yrs exposed rarely show anything good and if show probably family picture only. _________________ -------------------------------
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Orio
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Attila wrote: |
Chance to get nothing on roll 90% chance to get crap another 10% even b&w film after 30+yrs exposed rarely show anything good and if show probably family picture only. |
But 0,1% chance it's Brian Duffy! I would try it. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
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peterqd
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
Brian Duffy with a Box Brownie - yeah!
Tell you what Orio, if you sponsor me the £20 I'll send it off for processing and if Brian Duffy took the pics we'll split the proceeds 50/50. Deal? _________________ Peter - Moderator |
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Orio
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
I experience a sudden drop of interest _________________ Orio, Administrator
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peterqd
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
I found a thread on photo.net forum where somebody developed Kodacolor-X in Tri-X with some success. Would you risk it? _________________ Peter - Moderator |
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Attila
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:16 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
peterqd wrote: |
I found a thread on photo.net forum where somebody developed Kodacolor-X in Tri-X with some success. Would you risk it? |
Nothing to loose, Ian did develop c41 film in B&W result was not good, but visible, I not expect more than visible images in luckiest case.
risk develop time to not develop under. probably good hint to cut into three part even if you cut a scene you can put it back again in photoshop hopefully but you will have 3x more chance to find proper developing time. I suggest D76 as developer it did server me well on different films. _________________ -------------------------------
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Orio
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:30 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Rather than most likely wasting the film in B&W development, I would keep it as it is, and store it.
Maybe one day it will end up in the hands of someone who wants to develop it properly. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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peterqd
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:34 am Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
Orio wrote: |
Rather than most likely wasting the film in B&W development, I would keep it as it is, and store it.
Maybe one day it will end up in the hands of someone who wants to develop it properly. |
No I can't. I promised the girl in the shop I would give her the negs. _________________ Peter - Moderator |
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Orio
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:41 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
peterqd wrote: |
Orio wrote: |
Rather than most likely wasting the film in B&W development, I would keep it as it is, and store it.
Maybe one day it will end up in the hands of someone who wants to develop it properly. |
No I can't. I promised the girl in the shop I would give her the negs. |
In that case, I would bring back the undeveloped film to her, asking her if she plans to keep it or waste it.
If she says she'll waste it, then I would ask it back, and maybe ask on the forum here if there is someone who would like to
receive the roll as a gift under the condition to have it properly developed and scanned, and to publish the scans on the forum. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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