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malsano
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 2:47 pm Post subject: canon FD 300 f2.8 L and 300 f2.8 fluorite |
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malsano wrote:
Hi,
I'd like to know which differences have the L respect the Fluorite 2.8 one. I did some research on the web and I got the below information.
300 Fluorite 2.8 :
- didn't have the UD glass (1) . So , real speaking, which are the differences on the pictures?
- It is black, so there is some more risk to have lens detach
- different versions?
300L
- Some optic scheme
- UD glass . Someone said that it lost a little in terms of resolution. ??
- It is white , so better for long sun exposition
Are both convertible on EOS mount?
thank you in advance for your kind replies _________________ "Every picture tells you a story"
CANON EOS: 5d mk III, 24 f1.4 L mkII, 24 f3.5 L mk II, 50 f1.0 L, 300 f2.8 L IS, 16-35 f2.8 L mkII, 24-70 f2.8 L
CANON FD: F1N AE, T90, 14 f2.8 L, 17 f4, 24 f1,4L, 24 f2, 28 f2, 35 f2 Thorio,35 f2.8 TS, 50 1.2 L, 55 1.2 ASPHERICAL, 85 f1.2L, 100 f2 , 135 f2, 200 f2,8 IF new, 300 f2.8 Fluorite, 20-35 f3.5 L, 28-85 f4, 35-105 f3.5, 35-105 f3.5-4.5 ASPH, 50-300 f4.5L, 80-200 f4 L, 100-300 f5.6 L, 500L f4,5
CONTAX 645 AE with 45 f2.8, 80 f2, 120 f4 makro,
CONTAX: Yashica FR, contax 15 f3.5, contax 18 f4 AE, contax 21 f2.8 , yashica 24 f2.8 ML, contax 28 f2 AE, yashica 28 f2.8 ML, contax 35 f1.4 AE, contax 50 f1.4 AE, contax 50 f1.7AE, contax 85 f1.2 60th MM, contax 100 f2, contax 135 f2 AE.
OLYMPUS OM: OM2, 18 f3.5, 21 f2, 35 f2.8 new, 50 f1.8 new, 55 f1.2
NIKON: F2As, 28 f1.4 D
LAICA R: 180 3,4 APO E60
HELIOS: 40-2 85 f1.5
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
They can be converted to EOS by a repairman, yes.
If you don't need the 2.8 aperture, there are some excellent 300mm lenses you can find much cheaper, I really love my Russian Tair-3 4.5/300, a very sharp lens with remarkable CA control. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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dickb
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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dickb wrote:
One considerable difference is the focussing mechanism. The FD L is an internal focus lens, the Fluorite isn't. So the older lens get longer when focussing closer, shifting the massive front lenses further away from the tripod mount. Less practical when used on a gimbal mount, as the balance is shifted. With the newer FD L's internal focus focussing is much lighter, but when focussing close the focal length is slightly reduced. Both lenses are great performers. I've got both and am ashamed to say I haven't made a proper comparison yet but so far I can't tell their pictures apart. Handheld the Fluorite has a more classic feel, on a tripod the internal focus is a definite bonus for the L.
The FD L can be used with EdMika's adapter and be adjusted to infinity. Maybe the Fluorite as well, but I bought mine already converted. I was going to write that in normal use the colour of the lens would be hardly relevant, but I see you're from Dubai so it may well be a benefit having a white one. |
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hinnerker
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:09 pm Post subject: Re: canon FD 300 f2.8 L and 300 f2.8 fluorite |
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hinnerker wrote:
malsano wrote: |
Hi,
I'd like to know which differences have the L respect the Fluorite 2.8 one. I did some research on the web and I got the below information.
300 Fluorite 2.8 :
- didn't have the UD glass (1) . So , real speaking, which are the differences on the pictures?
- It is black, so there is some more risk to have lens detach
- different versions?
300L
- Some optic scheme
- UD glass . Someone said that it lost a little in terms of resolution. ??
- It is white , so better for long sun exposition
Are both convertible on EOS mount?
thank you in advance for your kind replies |
Hello,
if you cant do it by yourself, the simplest way is to ask Ed Mika for an conversion plate he produce for most of the longer tele's of FD serie.. !
http://www.edmika.com/
I did it by myself..
Regards
Henry
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... and an EOS 5D MKII
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ZoneV
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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ZoneV wrote:
You find more infos here:
http://web.mit.edu/dennis/www/canon/fd-lens-info.html
The FD L has more "lens"-elements - one of them is possible the high quality flat protection filter. I think the SSC version does not have it.
I have DIY converted my Canon FD 300/2.8L lens some time before Ed Mika sold his adapter for this lens. The conversion is not an easy one - so I would recommend Ed Mikas adapter too. But there you need to adjust infinity with the internal focusing mechanism.
For the rarer SCC Fluorite version I do not know a conversion way that is yet described, but most likely a DIY conversion it possible too. As far I know these lenses are normal more expensive than the FD L ones. So I would recommend the L version. _________________ Camera modification, repair and DIY - some links to look through: http://www.4photos.de/camera-diy/index-en.html
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malsano
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:09 am Post subject: |
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malsano wrote:
thanks to the ZoneV link, i saw that the fluorite one have some other important differences:
- lighter
- smaller
- different aperture (f22 instead of f32)
- a slightly longer minimum distance focus.'
So, at the en,d there are differencerens beetween these two lenses!!more than i expected
Now, it will be great have some comparison shot _________________ "Every picture tells you a story"
CANON EOS: 5d mk III, 24 f1.4 L mkII, 24 f3.5 L mk II, 50 f1.0 L, 300 f2.8 L IS, 16-35 f2.8 L mkII, 24-70 f2.8 L
CANON FD: F1N AE, T90, 14 f2.8 L, 17 f4, 24 f1,4L, 24 f2, 28 f2, 35 f2 Thorio,35 f2.8 TS, 50 1.2 L, 55 1.2 ASPHERICAL, 85 f1.2L, 100 f2 , 135 f2, 200 f2,8 IF new, 300 f2.8 Fluorite, 20-35 f3.5 L, 28-85 f4, 35-105 f3.5, 35-105 f3.5-4.5 ASPH, 50-300 f4.5L, 80-200 f4 L, 100-300 f5.6 L, 500L f4,5
CONTAX 645 AE with 45 f2.8, 80 f2, 120 f4 makro,
CONTAX: Yashica FR, contax 15 f3.5, contax 18 f4 AE, contax 21 f2.8 , yashica 24 f2.8 ML, contax 28 f2 AE, yashica 28 f2.8 ML, contax 35 f1.4 AE, contax 50 f1.4 AE, contax 50 f1.7AE, contax 85 f1.2 60th MM, contax 100 f2, contax 135 f2 AE.
OLYMPUS OM: OM2, 18 f3.5, 21 f2, 35 f2.8 new, 50 f1.8 new, 55 f1.2
NIKON: F2As, 28 f1.4 D
LAICA R: 180 3,4 APO E60
HELIOS: 40-2 85 f1.5
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DanielT74
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:22 am Post subject: Re: canon FD 300 f2.8 L and 300 f2.8 fluorite |
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DanielT74 wrote:
malsano wrote: |
Hi,
I'd like to know which differences have the L respect the Fluorite 2.8 one. I did some research on the web and I got the below information.
300 Fluorite 2.8 :
- didn't have the UD glass (1) . So , real speaking, which are the differences on the pictures?
- It is black, so there is some more risk to have lens detach
- different versions?
300L
- Some optic scheme
- UD glass . Someone said that it lost a little in terms of resolution. ??
- It is white , so better for long sun exposition
Are both convertible on EOS mount?
thank you in advance for your kind replies |
I have no experience with the Fluorite but once I compared the FD 300/2.8L with the acclaimed Leica APO-Telyt 280/4 which is spoken of as the best telephoto ever built for 35mm and I can tell you the Canon held its own against the Leica.
Resolution-wise it is sharp as sharp can be. It outresolves the 16MP APS-C sensor on the NEX-5n at least. |
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malsano
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Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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malsano wrote:
i'm interested about to see some shots about the 300L fd. It will appreciated if somenoe of yours will post pictures
thank you _________________ "Every picture tells you a story"
CANON EOS: 5d mk III, 24 f1.4 L mkII, 24 f3.5 L mk II, 50 f1.0 L, 300 f2.8 L IS, 16-35 f2.8 L mkII, 24-70 f2.8 L
CANON FD: F1N AE, T90, 14 f2.8 L, 17 f4, 24 f1,4L, 24 f2, 28 f2, 35 f2 Thorio,35 f2.8 TS, 50 1.2 L, 55 1.2 ASPHERICAL, 85 f1.2L, 100 f2 , 135 f2, 200 f2,8 IF new, 300 f2.8 Fluorite, 20-35 f3.5 L, 28-85 f4, 35-105 f3.5, 35-105 f3.5-4.5 ASPH, 50-300 f4.5L, 80-200 f4 L, 100-300 f5.6 L, 500L f4,5
CONTAX 645 AE with 45 f2.8, 80 f2, 120 f4 makro,
CONTAX: Yashica FR, contax 15 f3.5, contax 18 f4 AE, contax 21 f2.8 , yashica 24 f2.8 ML, contax 28 f2 AE, yashica 28 f2.8 ML, contax 35 f1.4 AE, contax 50 f1.4 AE, contax 50 f1.7AE, contax 85 f1.2 60th MM, contax 100 f2, contax 135 f2 AE.
OLYMPUS OM: OM2, 18 f3.5, 21 f2, 35 f2.8 new, 50 f1.8 new, 55 f1.2
NIKON: F2As, 28 f1.4 D
LAICA R: 180 3,4 APO E60
HELIOS: 40-2 85 f1.5
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Attila
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Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
http://forum.mflenses.com/canon-fl-300-f2-8-fluorite-t37989,highlight,%2Bcanon+%2B300.html
http://forum.mflenses.com/canon-fd-300-f-4-l-5dmkii-t38596,highlight,%2Bcanon+%2B300.html
http://forum.mflenses.com/canon-fd-300-f-4-l-fd-85-f1-2-l-autumn-colours-t33044,highlight,%2Bcanon+%2B300.html
http://forum.mflenses.com/canon-fd-300-f2-8-fl-fluorite-03-t27940,highlight,%2Bcanon+%2B300.html
http://forum.mflenses.com/canon-fd-300-f2-8-fl-fluorite-t26087,highlight,%2Bcanon+%2B300.html
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malsano
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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 6:58 am Post subject: |
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malsano wrote:
Thank you. I really love it! Some shots about 300 f 2.8 L? Have someone see color/ contrast differences beetween them? Thanks
Unfortunately the my one that i got it's in overhaul and i have to wait 15 days ... _________________ "Every picture tells you a story"
CANON EOS: 5d mk III, 24 f1.4 L mkII, 24 f3.5 L mk II, 50 f1.0 L, 300 f2.8 L IS, 16-35 f2.8 L mkII, 24-70 f2.8 L
CANON FD: F1N AE, T90, 14 f2.8 L, 17 f4, 24 f1,4L, 24 f2, 28 f2, 35 f2 Thorio,35 f2.8 TS, 50 1.2 L, 55 1.2 ASPHERICAL, 85 f1.2L, 100 f2 , 135 f2, 200 f2,8 IF new, 300 f2.8 Fluorite, 20-35 f3.5 L, 28-85 f4, 35-105 f3.5, 35-105 f3.5-4.5 ASPH, 50-300 f4.5L, 80-200 f4 L, 100-300 f5.6 L, 500L f4,5
CONTAX 645 AE with 45 f2.8, 80 f2, 120 f4 makro,
CONTAX: Yashica FR, contax 15 f3.5, contax 18 f4 AE, contax 21 f2.8 , yashica 24 f2.8 ML, contax 28 f2 AE, yashica 28 f2.8 ML, contax 35 f1.4 AE, contax 50 f1.4 AE, contax 50 f1.7AE, contax 85 f1.2 60th MM, contax 100 f2, contax 135 f2 AE.
OLYMPUS OM: OM2, 18 f3.5, 21 f2, 35 f2.8 new, 50 f1.8 new, 55 f1.2
NIKON: F2As, 28 f1.4 D
LAICA R: 180 3,4 APO E60
HELIOS: 40-2 85 f1.5
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ZoneV
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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:39 am Post subject: |
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ZoneV wrote:
malsano wrote: |
Thank you. I really love it! Some shots about 300 f 2.8 L? .. |
I have only the FD 300/2.8L, not the fluoride too. So no direct comparisson made. And comparissons based on different objects / weather condistions / processing (inside and outside camera) I would not trust for such image comparing.
Here I have some FD 300/2.8L images - follow the links nearly at the page bottom:
http://www.4photos.de/camera-diy/Canon-FD300-2.8-EF-mount.html
In the gallery most images have big images linked, click inside image mid-bottom. _________________ Camera modification, repair and DIY - some links to look through: http://www.4photos.de/camera-diy/index-en.html
I AM A LENS NERD!
Epis, Elmaron, Emerald, Ernostar, Helioplan and Heidosmat.
Epiotar, Kameraobjektiv, Anastigmat, Epis, Meganast, Magnagon, Quinar, Culmigon, Novotrinast, Novflexar, Colorplan, Sekor, Kinon, Talon, Telemegor, Xenon, Xenar, Ultra, Ultra Star. Tessar, Janar, Visionar, Kiptar, Kipronar and Rotelar.
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malsano
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 7:09 am Post subject: |
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malsano wrote:
thank you very much!! _________________ "Every picture tells you a story"
CANON EOS: 5d mk III, 24 f1.4 L mkII, 24 f3.5 L mk II, 50 f1.0 L, 300 f2.8 L IS, 16-35 f2.8 L mkII, 24-70 f2.8 L
CANON FD: F1N AE, T90, 14 f2.8 L, 17 f4, 24 f1,4L, 24 f2, 28 f2, 35 f2 Thorio,35 f2.8 TS, 50 1.2 L, 55 1.2 ASPHERICAL, 85 f1.2L, 100 f2 , 135 f2, 200 f2,8 IF new, 300 f2.8 Fluorite, 20-35 f3.5 L, 28-85 f4, 35-105 f3.5, 35-105 f3.5-4.5 ASPH, 50-300 f4.5L, 80-200 f4 L, 100-300 f5.6 L, 500L f4,5
CONTAX 645 AE with 45 f2.8, 80 f2, 120 f4 makro,
CONTAX: Yashica FR, contax 15 f3.5, contax 18 f4 AE, contax 21 f2.8 , yashica 24 f2.8 ML, contax 28 f2 AE, yashica 28 f2.8 ML, contax 35 f1.4 AE, contax 50 f1.4 AE, contax 50 f1.7AE, contax 85 f1.2 60th MM, contax 100 f2, contax 135 f2 AE.
OLYMPUS OM: OM2, 18 f3.5, 21 f2, 35 f2.8 new, 50 f1.8 new, 55 f1.2
NIKON: F2As, 28 f1.4 D
LAICA R: 180 3,4 APO E60
HELIOS: 40-2 85 f1.5
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