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Katastrofo
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:07 am Post subject: question about two lenses, 21mm Russar, 28mm Orion-15 |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Will the above lenses work on the Sony NEX? |
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Orio
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:14 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Well, I don't have a Sony NEX, but since my Orion-15 works on my M mount cameras, I can't think of a reason why
it shouldn't work on a Nexie too (as Nex's native lenses' register distance is shorter than M's). _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:16 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Orio, how do you like the Oion-15?
Thanks for the info. |
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Orio
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:17 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Katastrofo wrote: |
Orio, how do you like the Oion-15? |
Oh, it's a superb lens, very detailed, pocketable, perfect for hyperfocal street photography. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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fermy
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:19 am Post subject: |
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fermy wrote:
Some wide angles that sit very close to film/sensor won't work on NEX due to clash with baffle inside the camera. Notable example is Jupiter-12. _________________ Many lenses and some film bodies for sale here: http://forum.mflenses.com/canon-fd-minolta-md-c-mounts-m42-pentax-and-more-t50465.html
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:22 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Orio, thanks, will be looking for one.
Fermy, yes, Attila gave me the bad news about the J12 concerning the NEX. They still go
cheap enough to maybe have one for film, although I'm trying to put together a kit where
all lenses can be used on both film and digital. |
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Orio
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:24 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
fermy wrote: |
Some wide angles that sit very close to film/sensor won't work on NEX due to clash with baffle inside the camera. Notable example is Jupiter-12. |
Oh, I see.
I can not mount the J-12 on M cameras because it would hit the shutter's curtains even if just slightly.
Nex having shorter register distance than M, it would need a longer adapter to mount the Orion, so I assumed it would not interfere with curtains since Orion does not interfere even with M. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 1:17 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
J12 doesn't fit NEX-3, but postwar redesigned Biogon does. Russar and Orion should fit NEX fine as the yare a fair bit smaller at the back than a J12.
Bill, you should definitely grab a J12 for film use, a really good lens, try to get a 1950s one with red P.
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 2:29 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
J12 doesn't fit NEX-3, but postwar redesigned Biogon does. Russar and Orion should fit NEX fine as the yare a fair bit smaller at the back than a J12.
Bill, you should definitely grab a J12 for film use, a really good lens, try to get a 1950s one with red P.
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Ian, that's a great shot! OK, will be looking for one, thanks. |
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 4:37 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Cheers Bill, the J12 is great, as you can see in that shot. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6950 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 7:05 am Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
I use the Orion on my Zorki/Fed cameras. It's a great performer on them, not very fast, but small and sharp, but I've no idea how well it would look on a cropped sensor digital camera. One of the things I like, is the slight vignette, which would probably be completely lost due to crop factor. _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16651 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 7:12 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Both are excellent lenses as my friend Marco Cavina has proven in his user tests here:
http://www.marcocavina.com/articoli_fotografici/Soviet_and_wide_lenses_on_Leica_M/00_p.htm
Actually he has my lenses now. The J12 unfortunately is too deep to be used on many digital bodies
as already stated, but the Orion-15 should work nicely, but has gotten a bit pricey recently and
especially teh Russar MR-2 has. Here is the Orion-15 makers history:
http://www.sovietcams.com/index.php?-1893393610 The Russar MR-2 5.6/20mm
also does not fit my digital bodies btw. as it hits internal light baffles.
About the Orion-15, here a few when used on my Lumix GH1:
Full set is here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/sets/72157628104462326/
A benefit from its Topogon design is, that it is quite flare proof even with direct sun.
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https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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Attila
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
They are expensive lenses, not so smart to have them due you can use both on digital and film. 28mm Konica SLR lens go for peanuts and works very well on NEX and KOnica SLR too. 21mm even more worst price performance ratio, more rare more expensive. _________________ -------------------------------
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Katastrofo
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10405 Location: USA
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Beautiful images, Klaus!
Attila/Ian, first the J12, I have lots of 28's in different mounts at the moment.
Click here to see on Ebay
and just got a Zorki 6 body to keep the Fed5C company
Click here to see on Ebay |
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
That's a nice early J12, has the metal shrouded rear like a proper Biogon, later J12s don't have the metal shroud around the rear group.
Zorki 6 is a very nice camera, the lever wind and hinged back are nice additions that will be useful. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16651 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Congrats Bill, excellent find! _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Ian and Klaus, thanks, however, since dumkin Bill didn't read the fine print,
need to find a Kiev 4 for a bottom cap. |
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
OK, got a Kiev 4:
Click here to see on Ebay |
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