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asterinex
Joined: 04 Nov 2012 Posts: 311
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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 6:58 am Post subject: Contax Carl Zeiss Distagon 28mm or 35mm 2.8f |
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asterinex wrote:
Hello all,
I have the opportunity to by either a Contax Carl Zeiss Distagon 28mm f2.8 or Contax Carl Zeiss Distagon 35mm f2.8.
Asking price for the 28mm = 300 euro, asking price for the 35mm = 280 euro.
I can only can afford one lens.
Which is the one to get ? |
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fermy
Joined: 17 Feb 2012 Posts: 1974
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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 7:37 am Post subject: |
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fermy wrote:
The one that you need more. _________________ Many lenses and some film bodies for sale here: http://forum.mflenses.com/canon-fd-minolta-md-c-mounts-m42-pentax-and-more-t50465.html
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 7:46 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
What camera do you intend to use them on? 35mm isn't wide at all on an APS sensor so that is a big factor. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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asterinex
Joined: 04 Nov 2012 Posts: 311
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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 7:48 am Post subject: |
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asterinex wrote:
I have an E-p1 at the moment and considering to buy a NEX 5-n body.
I don't have a favorite focal length. I shoot with the lens I have with me an be creatif.
I care about top notch IQ , character and nice bokeh. |
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 8:02 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I would prefer the 28mm on M4/3, but that is just my taste, I am sure either lens will please you very much in IQ terms. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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hifisapi
Joined: 25 Sep 2012 Posts: 941 Location: USA
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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 9:12 am Post subject: |
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hifisapi wrote:
on aps or m43 I think the 28mm would be more useful _________________ ===========
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kansalliskala
Joined: 19 Jul 2007 Posts: 5037 Location: Southern Finland countryside
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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 10:05 am Post subject: |
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kansalliskala wrote:
Wait until member Orio gets online, you'll get the most comprehensive answer. _________________ MF: Kodak DCS SLR/c; Samsung NX10; OM-10; Canon T50
Zuiko 28/3.5, Distagon 35/2.8; Yashica ML 50/2;
Zuiko 50/1.4; S-M-C 120/2.8; Zuiko 135/3.5; 200/5;
Tamron AD1 135/2.8, Soligor 180/3.5; Tamron AD1 300/5.6
Tamron zooms: 01A, Z-210
Yashicaflex C; Київ 4 + Юпитер 8, 11; Polaroid 100; Olympus XA; Yashica T3
Museum stuff: Certo-Phot; Tele-Edixon 135; Polaris 90-190; Asahi Bellows; Ixus IIs
Projects: Agfa Isolette III (no shutter), Canon AE-1D (no sensor),
Nikon D80 (dead), The "Peace Camera"
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propellor
Joined: 29 Apr 2010 Posts: 205 Location: Amsterdam
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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 10:43 am Post subject: |
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propellor wrote:
Both are great lenses. But the price I think is pretty high. You can find them on Ebay from good sellers for less. Or go to keh.com.
Good luck. _________________ Distagon 3.5/15, Distagon 4/18, Distagon 2.8/21, Distagon 2.8/25, Distagon 2/28, Distagon 1.4/35, Planar 1.4/50, Planar 1.4/85, Makro Planar 2.8/100, Planar 2/135, Vario Sonnar 3,3-4,0/28-85, Vario Sonnar 4,5-5,6/100-300, Canon 5DMkII |
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asterinex
Joined: 04 Nov 2012 Posts: 311
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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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asterinex wrote:
Thx for your usefull replies. |
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Misha_M
Joined: 08 Oct 2012 Posts: 178
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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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Misha_M wrote:
I would go for the 28mm if I were you. _________________ Tair 11 133 f/2.8 1958
Jupiter 9 85 f/2 1959
Helios 44M 58 f/2 1978
Helios 44-2 58 f/2 1977
Helios 44 (13 blades) 1959
Helios 77M4 50 f/1.8
Zenitar-M 50 f/1.7 1986
Industar-61 L\Z 50 f/2.8
Helios 40-2, 85 f/1.5 1974 |
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Oreste
Joined: 08 Sep 2012 Posts: 451
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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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Oreste wrote:
They are different focal lengths. I am curious why you would ask this, as it is entirely a personal decision. |
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fermy
Joined: 17 Feb 2012 Posts: 1974
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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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fermy wrote:
hifisapi wrote: |
on aps or m43 I think the 28mm would be more useful |
Well, I would disagree. I use m4/3 and NEX (aps) side by side. On APS I might prefer slightly 28mm, although recently I started to use 35mm more and more. However, on m4/3 28mm focal length does not work for me at all. It's too long for the normal and too short for the tele. On the other hand 35mm works very nicely as a home portrait lens. It's all personal, but IMHO Pany 20mm/1.7 is a much better m4/3 normal than Distagon for about the same price, and it's faster, and it has AF. _________________ Many lenses and some film bodies for sale here: http://forum.mflenses.com/canon-fd-minolta-md-c-mounts-m42-pentax-and-more-t50465.html
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kansalliskala
Joined: 19 Jul 2007 Posts: 5037 Location: Southern Finland countryside
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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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kansalliskala wrote:
Hmm .. since Orio didn't respond.
So they are 2 different kinds of desings.
28/2.8 has 7 elements
http://lenses.zeiss.com/content/dam/Photography/new/pdf/en/downloadcenter/contax_yashica/distagon2-8_28mm_e.pdf
35/2.8 has 6 elements
http://lenses.zeiss.com/content/dam/Photography/new/pdf/en/downloadcenter/contax_yashica/distagon2-8_35mm_e.pdf
don't know what this is in practice but has to have some difference. right?
edit: the charts are also totally different, someone please explain them! _________________ MF: Kodak DCS SLR/c; Samsung NX10; OM-10; Canon T50
Zuiko 28/3.5, Distagon 35/2.8; Yashica ML 50/2;
Zuiko 50/1.4; S-M-C 120/2.8; Zuiko 135/3.5; 200/5;
Tamron AD1 135/2.8, Soligor 180/3.5; Tamron AD1 300/5.6
Tamron zooms: 01A, Z-210
Yashicaflex C; Київ 4 + Юпитер 8, 11; Polaroid 100; Olympus XA; Yashica T3
Museum stuff: Certo-Phot; Tele-Edixon 135; Polaris 90-190; Asahi Bellows; Ixus IIs
Projects: Agfa Isolette III (no shutter), Canon AE-1D (no sensor),
Nikon D80 (dead), The "Peace Camera"
AF: Canon, Tokina, Sigma Video: JVC GZ-MG275E |
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Both lenses are designs from the 70s (neither of them existed in the Contarex line)
The 35 is however a bit older and was introduced in the Rollei SL line before entering the Contax/Yashica line.
The 28 is a design by Walter Woeltche, a very talented mathematician who came to Zeiss from Schneider Kreuznach and who
became the head lens engineer at Zeiss after the retirement of Erhard Glatzel.
Woeltche had a more "modern" concept of the lenses and his designs were a way in-between the traditional Zeiss concepts
and the contemporary Japanese lenses whose sales were going very strong at the time.
Both the 35 and the 28 share a common Contax/Yashica philosophy that is to have the optimal correction in the center while
"letting go" a bit the edges. This is visible in the MTFs of both, but it's a little worse in the 28mm lens, which was in fact
optically improved with the introduction of the MM version. So if you choose the 28, and if you use a full frame camera, it is
important that the lens is MM version. If you use a crop camera, it is irrelevant if AE or MM, as you would not see the edges.
The rendering of the lenses are different which is explained by the different designer and slight temporal gap.
The 28 is more contrasted and a bit more saturated. The 35 renders more natural colours and contrast.
Stopped down, 28 is a bit sharper in the centre, but the 35 has better definition near the edges.
The 35 has always offered me a bit more dimensional rendering ("3D") than the 28, which is however more "spectacular" for landscapes.
This is another way of saying that the 35 is abit more "German" and the 28 a bit more "Japanese".
Both handle flares very well thanks to T*
Both are great lenses, neither are perfect. Both offer an excellent price/quality ratio.
What would I choose if I had to pick only one of them? I would pick the 35. However, as someone already said, you should get
the one that you need the most. Both are good buys. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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