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Smoli4
Joined: 01 Jul 2011 Posts: 606 Location: Haifa, Israel
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 2:07 pm Post subject: a Guy converts his 5Dmk2 to take Leica-M lenses |
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Smoli4 wrote:
http://72.32.6.157/~rbensonarch/blog/?page_id=247
a pretty destructive conversion. i guess it takes drastic measures to be able to get best of both worlds _________________ Canon 6D + Mir 24, SMC Tak 50 f1.4, 135 f2.5 V2, Tamron SP 90mm f2.5 52B, mcMTO 500 8, Canon IS USM 75-300 4.5-5.6, zeiss ikon talon 85 f2.8 |
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enliten
Joined: 20 Sep 2011 Posts: 201 Location: Perth, WA
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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enliten wrote:
I like it... and to be fair, what he is charging, for the body and the conversion isn't too bad IMO _________________ www.craftedbyben.com
Digital: Canon EOS 7D
Film SLRs: Zenit 122, Nikon F55, Nikon FM2, Pentax Spotmatic, Pentax ME Super, Pentax K1000, Minolta SR1
Rangefinders: Konica Auto S2, Zeiss Ikon Contessa LKE, Zeiss Ikon Continette, Zeiss Ikon Ikonta 521/16, Fed 5B
50's: Super Takumar 50 f1.4, Helios 44-m6,, Minolta MD 50 f1.4, Meyer Optik Oreston 50 f1.8, Olympus 50 f1.4, Industar 55 f2.8 (RF), Jupiter-3 50 f1.5 (RF), Yashinon DS 50 f1.4, Zeiss Jena 50 f2.8, Zeiss Pancolar 50 f1.8
Med Tele: Jupiter-11 135 f4 (RF), Mamiya 120 f4 Macro (645), Meyer Optik Trioplan 100 f2.8, Jupiter-9 85 f2
Tele: Jupiter-21a 200mm f4
Wide: Rikenon 35 2.8, Rikenon 28 f2.8, Minolta MD 28 f2.8, Minolta MD 24 f2.8, Pentacon 30 f3.5, Enna Werk Munchen Lithagon 35 f4.5
Autofocus: Canon 50 1.8, Sigma 50 1.4, Tokina 11-16 2.8
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Smoli4
Joined: 01 Jul 2011 Posts: 606 Location: Haifa, Israel
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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Smoli4 wrote:
Yes. its alot of careful work, if I had a Leica 50mm f/1.0 lens, its a whole better solution (in durability \ performance\ productivity) then getting an M9 camera. _________________ Canon 6D + Mir 24, SMC Tak 50 f1.4, 135 f2.5 V2, Tamron SP 90mm f2.5 52B, mcMTO 500 8, Canon IS USM 75-300 4.5-5.6, zeiss ikon talon 85 f2.8 |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Quite silly, I doubt he can't find same IQ lens what is fit on 5D with an adapter, he has more money than brain if you shoot side by side with a Leica M lens + a top SLR lens there is not much difference is there any at all. _________________ -------------------------------
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fermy
Joined: 17 Feb 2012 Posts: 1974
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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fermy wrote:
Not that silly. The camera is cheaper than M9, has better features, can use all the lenses that M9 can and then some. Not sure about IQ v M9, high ISO will be loads better on Canon, low ISO might be better on M9.
I am happy with a crop mirrorless, but if you must have a FF, this seems like the best available solution for manual glass user. _________________ Many lenses and some film bodies for sale here: http://forum.mflenses.com/canon-fd-minolta-md-c-mounts-m42-pentax-and-more-t50465.html
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
fermy wrote: |
Not that silly. The camera is cheaper than M9, has better features, can use all the lenses that M9 can and then some. Not sure about IQ v M9, high ISO will be loads better on Canon, low ISO might be better on M9.
I am happy with a crop mirrorless, but if you must have a FF, this seems like the best available solution for manual glass user. |
Honestly Canon 5D2 is better camera a lot than M9 in term of IQ for sure and lens is not really matter I think even with cheap Russians you can make stunning pictures. Leica M is important only if you want to be proud you can afford it. On a ruined big DSLR I don't see any proudness _________________ -------------------------------
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Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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fermy
Joined: 17 Feb 2012 Posts: 1974
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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fermy wrote:
Attila wrote: |
Honestly Canon 5D2 is better camera a lot than M9 in term of IQ for sure and lens is not really matter I think even with cheap Russians you can make stunning pictures. Leica M is important only if you want to be proud you can afford it. On a ruined big DSLR I don't see any proudness |
Sure, I agree, one does not need Leica lenses to produce stunning pictures. I think however, when one gets heavily involved into manual lenses, photography is not the only motivation anymore. It's a bit of collecting, a bit of thirst for new toys and a bit of desire to be different. This hacked 5D2 appears as an ideal tool to support this hobby and quite cost effective too. Purely photographically, there are more cost effective solutions for sure. _________________ Many lenses and some film bodies for sale here: http://forum.mflenses.com/canon-fd-minolta-md-c-mounts-m42-pentax-and-more-t50465.html
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Aanything
Joined: 27 Aug 2011 Posts: 2187 Location: Piacenza, Italy
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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Aanything wrote:
Well, I wouldn't pay $ 3000 for a butchered 5dII.
I'd rather buy one for $ 1800 and use it with c/y glass, or buy a film Leica M.
Not that I can't see the logic behind this stuff, it just seems a bit too much (both money and butchering) to me. _________________ C&C and editing of my pics are always welcome
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 1:11 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I find it pretty idiotic really. Plenty of other lenses you can put on a 5D2 without destroying it. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3666 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 2:51 am Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
I'm just curious how the sensor handles WA RF lenses, if color shift and smearing is minimal, that bodes well for a future EVIL FF. _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
One photographers junk lens is an artists favorite tool.
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my_photography
Joined: 03 Nov 2008 Posts: 2772 Location: Pearl of the Orient
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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 2:58 am Post subject: |
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my_photography wrote:
I have to admit this guy is very brave and knowledgeable until he can do such modification. I have not used any rangefinder but I have always thought one of the reason using rangefinder is its relatively small size. _________________
Zeiss: CJZ Flektogon 20/2.8, CJZ Flektogon 20/4, , CJZ Pentacon 29/2.8, CJZ Flektogon 35/2.4, CJZ Pancolar 50/1.8, Tessar 50/2.8, Biotar 7.5cm/1.5, CJZ Pancolar 80/1.8, CJZ Sonnar 135/3.5, CJZ Pentacon 135/2.8 CJZ Sonnar 200/2.8
Other Germany: Meyer Primoplan 50/1.8, Meyer Trioplan 100/2.8
Takumar: SMC 50/1.4 Super Tak 55/2, Super Tak 85/1.9, S-M-C 135/3.5, Super Tak 150/4
Russian: Zenith 16/2.8, Mir-24M 2/35, Volna-9 50/2.8, Helios 44M (58/2), Helios 44M-3 MC (58/2), Helios 40 (85/1.5), Tair 11A (135/2.8 )
Others: Sears 28/2.8, Sankor 35/2.8, Enna M�nchen Tele-Ennalyt 135/3.5
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IAZA
Joined: 16 Apr 2010 Posts: 2587 Location: Indonesia
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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 3:49 am Post subject: |
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IAZA wrote:
I think I saw a 5DII long time ago, modified to Leica M. not this guy. its different look.
For most people this is silly. But I understand his feeling. there's no satisfaction in this field.
and I really appriciate his skill and courage. _________________ nex5, Olympus EPM1, yashica half 14, Canon eos 650 want to see samples of mine? please click My lenses
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6950 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:06 am Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
Attila wrote: |
Quite silly, I doubt he can't find same IQ lens what is fit on 5D with an adapter, he has more money than brain if you shoot side by side with a Leica M lens + a top SLR lens there is not much difference is there any at all. |
+1 _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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std
Joined: 09 Feb 2010 Posts: 1826 Location: Bulgaria
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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:21 am Post subject: |
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std wrote:
It is stupid to butcher a good DSLR just to use it rarely with one lens.
I don't see anything special in the images he has posted which cannot be accomplished with lenses compatible with 5DII.
If you want to use Leica buy Leica. If you don't like it sell it - it will still hold it's value.
Why trow your money. _________________ Stefan
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SLR MD: Rokkor 1,7/50 Exakta: Kilfitt-Makro-Kilar E 3.5/4cm; CZJ 2/50 Pancolar;M42: CZJ 2.8/50 Tessar; Mir-1B 2.8/37; Jupiter-9 2/85 T-mount: Tamron 5.9/200; Tamron 6.9/300; Tamron 7.5/400 C-mount: Cosmicar 1.8/50 Y/S: Sun 3.5/38-90, Sun 4/70-210 RF Contax RF: Jupiter-8 2/50; Contax G:CZ 2,8/21 Biogon T; CZ 2,8/28 Biogon T; CZ 2/35 Planar T; CZ 2/45 Planar T; CZ 2,8/90 Sonnar T |
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enliten
Joined: 20 Sep 2011 Posts: 201 Location: Perth, WA
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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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enliten wrote:
you guys are forgetting that leica M mount is 27.80 mm focal flange distance. Now with adapters he'll be able to use more glass than a standard 5D2...
Konica AR, Canon FL/FD, Minolta, and of course leica M and M39...
This dude has made himself a way of using most of the glass digitally on full frame that we only wish we could use.
Yes, he "butchered" it... But I'd rather see this than see lenses irreversibly modified. _________________ www.craftedbyben.com
Digital: Canon EOS 7D
Film SLRs: Zenit 122, Nikon F55, Nikon FM2, Pentax Spotmatic, Pentax ME Super, Pentax K1000, Minolta SR1
Rangefinders: Konica Auto S2, Zeiss Ikon Contessa LKE, Zeiss Ikon Continette, Zeiss Ikon Ikonta 521/16, Fed 5B
50's: Super Takumar 50 f1.4, Helios 44-m6,, Minolta MD 50 f1.4, Meyer Optik Oreston 50 f1.8, Olympus 50 f1.4, Industar 55 f2.8 (RF), Jupiter-3 50 f1.5 (RF), Yashinon DS 50 f1.4, Zeiss Jena 50 f2.8, Zeiss Pancolar 50 f1.8
Med Tele: Jupiter-11 135 f4 (RF), Mamiya 120 f4 Macro (645), Meyer Optik Trioplan 100 f2.8, Jupiter-9 85 f2
Tele: Jupiter-21a 200mm f4
Wide: Rikenon 35 2.8, Rikenon 28 f2.8, Minolta MD 28 f2.8, Minolta MD 24 f2.8, Pentacon 30 f3.5, Enna Werk Munchen Lithagon 35 f4.5
Autofocus: Canon 50 1.8, Sigma 50 1.4, Tokina 11-16 2.8
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berraneck
Joined: 24 May 2009 Posts: 972 Location: prague, czech republic
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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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berraneck wrote:
it is quite irrational to cut SLR like this to use lenses in price range of thousands dollars. If you have enough money for Noctilux, I think you also can buy Leica M digital body. On the other side, it has some pluses over M body. But I don´t understand so harsh comments and calling someone idiot? _________________ equipment doesn´t count, good photographs do |
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themoleman342
Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 2190 Location: East Coast (CT), U.S.A.
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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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themoleman342 wrote:
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Yes, he "butchered" it... But I'd rather see this than see lenses irreversibly modified. |
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Lenses are potentially forever. The canon will become obsolete. |
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Orio
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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
themoleman342 wrote: |
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Yes, he "butchered" it... But I'd rather see this than see lenses irreversibly modified. |
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Lenses are potentially forever. The canon will become obsolete. |
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cambug
Joined: 06 Jun 2010 Posts: 91
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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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cambug wrote:
This modification is nothing new, sombody had done that more than 2 years ago.... have a look on this link:
http://oldlensclub.hk/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=2753
Unfortunately this is in Chinese ( Hong Kong style ), but with so many pictures shown, it is quite easy to understand what was going on...In this digital age, camera would not last forever, just like the computer I am using, in few years' time, 90% of its value would be gone. I am sure the owner of this 5D2 can offord a m9, but consider the number of lenses he owns and the focusing problem on m9 ( no life view ), a modified 5D2 can be more attractive.
Today we are still talking about and discuss the use of lenses 50 or 60 years old, but what would happen to these latest digital cameras in half centry's time? |
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sammo
Joined: 04 Jan 2012 Posts: 223 Location: CH and SI
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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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sammo wrote:
Orio wrote: |
themoleman342 wrote: |
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Yes, he "butchered" it... But I'd rather see this than see lenses irreversibly modified. |
+1
Lenses are potentially forever. The canon will become obsolete. |
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I think it's a good idea and some very nice work, guy probably had a lot of fun doing it.
About the destruction of the camera, 5D mark II does not have a historical value, and there are so many around. I don't get sentimental seeing one destroyed, the body is just a workhorse, lenses should be worshipped. |
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ForenSeil
Joined: 15 Apr 2011 Posts: 2726 Location: Kiel, Germany.
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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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ForenSeil wrote:
The big problem for me would be the missing rangefinder, the missing viewfinder and the larger size
The M9 and her sucessors are very nice because it's smaller, more slient and more inofficious than any other digital FF camera, not only because of the great lenses in the Leica M system. _________________ I'm not a collector, I'm a tester
My camera: Sony A7+Zeiss Sonnar 55/1.8
Current favourite lenses (I have many more):
A few macro-Tominons, Samyang 12/2.8, Noritsu 50.7/9.5, Rodagon 105/5.6 on bellows, Samyang 135/2, Nikon ED 180/2.8, Leitz Elmar-R 250/4, Celestron C8 2000mm F10
Most wanted: Samyang 24/1.4, Samyang 35/1.4, Nikon 200/2 ED
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Aanything
Joined: 27 Aug 2011 Posts: 2187 Location: Piacenza, Italy
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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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Aanything wrote:
Ok, bodies are expendable, lenses not: I agree on this, and I understand the spirit in which the mod was done.
On the other hand I would never pay such money for such a work.
Maybe I would do it myself, if I was able to, or I would send my used 5dII if I was sure I'm not needing any of its auto functions anymore. _________________ C&C and editing of my pics are always welcome
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Misha_M
Joined: 08 Oct 2012 Posts: 178
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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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Misha_M wrote:
sammo wrote: |
Orio wrote: |
themoleman342 wrote: |
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Yes, he "butchered" it... But I'd rather see this than see lenses irreversibly modified. |
+1
Lenses are potentially forever. The canon will become obsolete. |
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I think it's a good idea and some very nice work, guy probably had a lot of fun doing it.
About the destruction of the camera, 5D mark II does not have a historical value, and there are so many around. I don't get sentimental seeing one destroyed, the body is just a workhorse, lenses should be worshipped. |
+4 !
This guy is a genius! _________________ Tair 11 133 f/2.8 1958
Jupiter 9 85 f/2 1959
Helios 44M 58 f/2 1978
Helios 44-2 58 f/2 1977
Helios 44 (13 blades) 1959
Helios 77M4 50 f/1.8
Zenitar-M 50 f/1.7 1986
Industar-61 L\Z 50 f/2.8
Helios 40-2, 85 f/1.5 1974 |
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 12:15 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I think it just starkly illustrates how overpriced Leica cameras are that someone couldn't afford one and had to cut up an expensive Canon.
Leica are missing out on a market sector by not producing a sensibly priced product as well as fantasy megabucks ones. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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