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Attila
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 7:57 pm Post subject: Leica Summitar 5cm f2.0 Leica screw |
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Attila wrote:
Processed pictures , my usual batch contrast, color and sharpening fix applied.
Most shoots at F8 in ideal light, some of them wide open. One close building shoot made in shadow.
non processed images are here >>
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rbelyell
Joined: 13 Oct 2009 Posts: 4269 Location: somewhere in the mountains of central NY
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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rbelyell wrote:
lovely old lens and great example of the leica 'glow'. i didnt know you shot leica attila? how did you lime the resukts?
tony _________________ Epson RD1 + Elmarit 21/2.8; Summarit 50/1.5; Summarit 75/2.5; Elmar-c 90/4; Sankyo Komura 135/2.8, Hektor 135/4.5; Braun Paxina 29 6x6; Photax Boyer Paris; Holga 120 Pano
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
rbelyell wrote: |
lovely old lens and great example of the leica 'glow'. i didnt know you shot leica attila? how did you lime the resukts?
tony |
I am not a Leica fun buy , but I try every pieces gladly I like Russian clones better and Carl Zeiss Jena lenses from this age.
I think this is a very nice sharp lens, with excellent bokeh. _________________ -------------------------------
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rbelyell
Joined: 13 Oct 2009 Posts: 4269 Location: somewhere in the mountains of central NY
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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rbelyell wrote:
yes, it has a lot of character. i like how it renders. _________________ Epson RD1 + Elmarit 21/2.8; Summarit 50/1.5; Summarit 75/2.5; Elmar-c 90/4; Sankyo Komura 135/2.8, Hektor 135/4.5; Braun Paxina 29 6x6; Photax Boyer Paris; Holga 120 Pano
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Fuji GM670+100/3.5+65/8!
Praktisix 6x6 medium format + ZeissBiometar 120/2.8
Bessa T 101 Anniversary Edition in Navy Blue
Mamiya Six Folder with Zuiko 75/3.5
Adaptall: Tamron SP 28-85 macro
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Orio
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Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Luscious results indeed.
I have to say that it's the first time that I see a 50 Summitar lens produce this smooth bokeh. All other 50 Summitar samples
that I've previously seen showed a more edgy bokeh. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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patrickh
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Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
Always been sorry I could not afford a leica lens. This shows me what I am missing
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Attila
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Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
patrickh wrote: |
Always been sorry I could not afford a leica lens. This shows me what I am missing patrickh |
Take it's clone Industar-22 collapsible result is not much different and very affordable.
http://forum.mflenses.com/industar-22-5cm-collapsible-red-p-ser71xxx-panasonic-g1-t46318,highlight,%2Bindustar.html _________________ -------------------------------
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Attila
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Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Orio wrote: |
Luscious results indeed.
I have to say that it's the first time that I see a 50 Summitar lens produce this smooth bokeh. All other 50 Summitar samples
that I've previously seen showed a more edgy bokeh. |
Perhaps only background is key difference once I shoot samples for bokeh usually I care about background distance to get better result. _________________ -------------------------------
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ForenSeil
Joined: 15 Apr 2011 Posts: 2726 Location: Kiel, Germany.
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 12:09 am Post subject: |
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ForenSeil wrote:
Very very good for such an old lens indeed.
If you consider about that the lens was produced nearly unchanged from 1939 to 1953 it's really stunning (As far as I know they only changed coatings and the shape of the aperture blades which would explain why Orio expected different bokeh from it).
The lens has 7 elements so it's far more than a simple Sonnar 50/2 copy (6 elements) like what most lens makers did at this time.
Results are looking imho better than my coated Jupiter-8 and I bet build quality and haptics are also somewhat better.
@Attila: Be careful with cleaning! The glas is known to be very soft!
Attila wrote: |
patrickh wrote: |
Always been sorry I could not afford a leica lens. This shows me what I am missing patrickh |
Take it's clone Industar-22 collapsible result is not much different and very affordable.
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Or collapsible Industar-50 is also good
Both not F2 though and they have 4 instead of 7 elements, so they are more modified collapsible Leitz Elmar copies than Summitar clones of course. _________________ I'm not a collector, I'm a tester
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Attila
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 11:41 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Thank you for additional info and warn especially about soft surface.
I confirm quality of collapsible I-50 excellent lens indeed. _________________ -------------------------------
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Nice to see a vintage Leica lens test.
Summitar is very sharp but I don't like the glow or lower contrast or whatever it is, I'd rather have a J-8 I think, I prefer the rendering.
I have a collapsible I-50 from 1959, LZOS made, heavy chromed brass, it's possibly the best Tessar type lens I've ever tried, really sharp but also strong colours and contrast.
I have a collapsible I-22 too, red P, KMZ made, 1950-something, it's aluminium, not quite as nice as the I-50.
But for me, it's gotta be the Jupiter-8, I have 1955, 57 and 58 red P ones, all superb. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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LucisPictor
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Orio wrote: |
Luscious results indeed.
I have to say that it's the first time that I see a 50 Summitar lens produce this smooth bokeh. All other 50 Summitar samples
that I've previously seen showed a more edgy bokeh. |
The Summitar comes in different versions, coated, uncoated, with different numbers of aperture blades etc.
And the bokeh is dependend on how strong the highlights are. It can produce very smooth bokeh if the highlights are not very strong.
Anyway, it's a great lens!! _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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