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Olivier
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 9:01 pm Post subject: Mamiya C3 - advice welcome |
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Olivier wrote:
Hi,
I like medium format and the TLR cameras a lot.
I can have a Mamiya C3 + 80mm f2.8 and case for 100€ delivery cost included.
Seller says it is in very good shape.
Is the C3 a good cam, compared with C220 or C330 ?
Is this a good price ?
Would it be better to pay more for the 220 or 330 ?
Any advice welcome. _________________ Olivier - Moderator
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7793 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
I'm one step ahead of Olivier here, I've gone and bought one. So all advice will be appreciated. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
I have loads of stuff that I have to get rid of, if you see me commenting about something I have got and you want one, ask me.
My Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/mudplugga/
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Butkus has the manual.
Olivier, grab it, good price!
You will love the long bellows for close-ups.
The C330 (maybe the C220, too) cocks the shutter upon film advance, more plastic
was used in the bodies of both. |
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7793 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
I've got the manual from Buktus, there was a film in it - exposed or not it's going back in for a play. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
I have loads of stuff that I have to get rid of, if you see me commenting about something I have got and you want one, ask me.
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Looking forward to the first roll pix! |
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tikkathree
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 4:41 am Post subject: |
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tikkathree wrote:
I've had all three of the TLRs you mention, C3, C220 and C330. I love the ergonomics of the TLR and I found that I enjoyed these Mamiyas over and above Rolleiflexes.
What I didn't enjoy hugely which explains the fact that I no longer have a TLR is the square format print output. It's good for portraits but otherwise I found it a bit limiting.
Anyway, get the manual from Buktus, make sure the bellows are in good shape, make sure that the vendor supplies an empty film spool and away you go! _________________ I used to think digital was fun but then I discovered film, then I found old lenses and then, eventually I found rangefinders.
EOS 5DII, loadsalenses
Canon G9 IR conv,
MF: TLR, 645 and folders
35mm: Oly OM Pro bodies 1, 2, 3 and 4; Soviet RF kit |
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Olivier
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 5080 Location: France
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:32 am Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
Thanks a lot for the advice and tips.
I wouldn't have thought to the empty film spool... _________________ Olivier - Moderator
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Rolf
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:51 am Post subject: |
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Rolf wrote:
Don't know anything about this cam but it seems nice for that price to start into medium format. Have you seen this here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_P708HQLrZQ
_________________ Rolf |
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7793 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 9:36 am Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
Nice little video Rolf, simple but it answered one of my questions. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
I have loads of stuff that I have to get rid of, if you see me commenting about something I have got and you want one, ask me.
My Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/mudplugga/
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http://www.ipernity.com/home/294337 |
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Olivier
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 5080 Location: France
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:35 am Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
Lloydy wrote: |
Nice little video Rolf, simple but it answered one of my questions. |
+1 !
Thank you Rolf.
Bill Katastrofo, I try to grab it !
There is an old 120 B&W film with it. Nice for first trials, if not too old...
_________________ Olivier - Moderator
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Lloydy
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
Olivier wrote: |
Lloydy wrote: |
Nice little video Rolf, simple but it answered one of my questions. |
+1 !
Thank you Rolf.
Bill Katastrofo, I try to grab it !
There is an old 120 B&W film with it. Nice for first trials, if not too old...
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I'm just about to put my film through for another play. It's a bit of a fiddle getting it the right way on the spool, but who cares, it's a test film ? _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
I have loads of stuff that I have to get rid of, if you see me commenting about something I have got and you want one, ask me.
My Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/mudplugga/
My ipernity -
http://www.ipernity.com/home/294337 |
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Good luck, gents! Hope you weren't too late on this, Olivier. |
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Olivier
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 5080 Location: France
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
Katastrofo wrote: |
Good luck, gents! Hope you weren't too late on this, Olivier. |
It seems ok until now.
Seller told me everything is functioning correctly.
I'm waiting for his answer after I sent him an e-mail saying I take it.
If it's alwright, I'll have to search for some film developmet tools, learn how to develop film and scan them...
Maybe it would be even better to give films to develop at a photo shop ? _________________ Olivier - Moderator
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Olivier, I definitely recommend learning how to develop your own black and white.
For color shop around for the best deal (both C-41 and E-6). Congrats!
Even a cheap flatbed scanner like the Epson 4490 does a decent job, some B&W:
from Mamiyaflex C2
looking forward to your results, guys! |
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Olivier
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
WOW.
Nice results.
Sorry... what is C-41 and E-6 ? _________________ Olivier - Moderator
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Thanks
C-41=color negatives
E-6=slides or positives
Haven't done much in color, but will very soon, this is expired Portra 800:
C2 using the 2.8/80 Sekor |
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Olivier
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
Bill, that's really impressive IQ !
I like the square format and the high detailed structure of the picture.
Expired Portra 800, that means old films can still work great.
I'll surely love this camera and its close focusing abilities. _________________ Olivier - Moderator
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Olivier, thanks, is it a 'go' with the camera? |
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Olivier
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Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
Katastrofo wrote: |
Olivier, thanks, is it a 'go' with the camera? |
It's on its way to its new home...
I'll surely have questions.
- which 120 B&W films do you find are the best ? Kodak 400 Tri-X ? Ilford, Fuji, shangai ?
- where do you find them on the net ? ebay ?
- what are the best prices ? _________________ Olivier - Moderator
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Rolf
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Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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Rolf wrote:
Olivier wrote: |
Katastrofo wrote: |
Olivier, thanks, is it a 'go' with the camera? |
It's on its way to its new home...
I'll surely have questions.
- which 120 B&W films do you find are the best ? Kodak 400 Tri-X ? Ilford, Fuji, shangai ?
- where do you find them on the net ? ebay ?
- what are the best prices ? |
Congrats Olivier ! Welcome to the club
_________________ Rolf |
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Olivier
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Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
Thank you Rolf.
Which medium format cameras do you have ? _________________ Olivier - Moderator
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Rolf
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Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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Rolf wrote:
Olivier wrote: |
Thank you Rolf.
Which medium format cameras do you have ? |
Rolleiflex TLR, Rollei SL 66, Kiev 80
for example
http://forum.mflenses.com/rolleiflex-sl-66-t22617,highlight,%2Bsl+%2B66.html
http://forum.mflenses.com/rolleiflex-sl-66-first-shots-t24524,highlight,%2Bsl+%2B66.html
http://forum.mflenses.com/rolleiflex-sl-66-first-shots-t24524,highlight,%2Bsl+%2B66.html
http://forum.mflenses.com/rolleiflex-tlr-3-5f-k4f-t37520,highlight,%2Btlr.html
_________________ Rolf |
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Attila
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Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Superb Bill! C3 is a stunning camera Olivier, worth to have it. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Olivier
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 5080 Location: France
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Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
Thank you Rolf.
Mint cameras and beautiful photographies with the rollei !
Thanks Attila.
I'll see that in a few days.
I'll post some pictures of what I'll receive. _________________ Olivier - Moderator
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Lloydy
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 12:12 am Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
http://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=777_1&products_id=113477
I think I'll order some of this Kodak Professional T-MAX 400 - 120 Roll - Black & White Print Film - A 5 pack for £15-19 doesn't sound bad ?
Is this suitable for a beginner to use for home developing ? _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
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