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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 1:10 pm    Post subject: Corel AfterShot Pro Reply with quote
Being a registered user of Bibble 5, I have been able to buy this program for only 15 $
It basically looks like Bibble 5, but with a more professional, cleaner interface.
I think it's nice, especially the interaction of Noise Ninja Pro (if you have it registered) with Aftershot's own "Raw impulse noise removal".
The two together, if used wisely, offer probably the best noise reduction available, able to minimize noise also invery difficult files such as M9's 2500 ISO.


PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hi Orio,
Would you say that the NR is even better than Adobe LR3 or 4 beta?


PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
stingOM wrote:
Hi Orio,
Would you say that the NR is even better than Adobe LR3 or 4 beta?


In my opinion, yes, it is more flexible than LR3, allowing for better control - although LR3 is rather good, especially for chroma.
But in LR3 I usually end up controlling noise by masking sharpness areas rather than by doing actual noise reduction, because luma NR in LR3 could be better IMO.
I have not installed LR4 beta, last time I did install a LR beta it did mess up the paths of my regular LR. Confused


PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks Orio


PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I moved to ASPro from Bibble 5. Initially, the main issue was the lack of plugins (anyone who used Bibble got used to the superb array of plugins that work at the RAW level). Many have now been ported across by the unselfish band of enthusiastic genii who write these things (seriously, several have PhD's). Corel has at this point improved the colour engine and many of the camera profiles, so I think the results are better than Bibble, but take some time/effort/learning to reach that point. BTW, I believe it is the only RAW converter that allows such a wide range of adjustments at the RAW level (non-destructively). Try doing perspective correction on PS at RAW level! You can ponly do it by saving as TIFF, which means doubling large file size (RAW and TIFF together). Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes


patrickh


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
patrickh wrote:
Corel has at this point improved the colour engine and many of the camera profiles, so I think the results are better than Bibble, but take some time/effort/learning to reach that point. BTW, I believe it is the only RAW converter that allows such a wide range of adjustments at the RAW level (non-destructively). Try doing perspective correction on PS at RAW level! You can ponly do it by saving as TIFF, which means doubling large file size (RAW and TIFF together). Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
patrickh


Patrick, perspective correction is available in Lightroom since version 2.

I have to say that I am really starting to dig Corel AfterShot Pro (short=CAP). It has the power of Bibble without the quirkiness of the old user interface.
The noise reduction of CAP when combined with Noise Ninja Professional becomes by far the best one available anywhere. If you own CAP I recommend that you do purchase Noise Ninja Pro. The results are impressive and far better than Lightroom's NR (although it is fair to say that it's possible to operate Noise Ninja Pro as a plugin from Lightroom, too).
There are still a couple of issues that haven't been resolved since Bibble. One of them is the weird colour hue that the highlights (sky in particular) take when some conspicuous exposure reduction is performed. Another important absence is the lack of a purple fringing reduction tool; there is the CA reduction tool, but it's totally ineffective against purple fringing.

Although it still can't compete with Lightroom (especially in the managing functions, which in Lightroom really shine and are very useful if you like me handle a huge number of photos), CAP is a program that is really handy to have available on the computer, even side by side with Lightroom; after all, the price is affordable enough for serious RAW shooters to consider buying it anyway.
CAP also has a very convenient advantage over Lightroom in my opinion: it lets you access the photos -and edit them- without necessarily importing them into a catalogue, as Lightroom instead requires. Sometimes, you don't want to import the pictures you have taken; maybe most of them are simple lens tests that are not supposed to survive longer than a couple of days. Sometimes you just want to browse through them and focus your attention and care on those 2-3 that are really worth it. With CAP you can do that directly even on the CF card - you don't have to download-import-select-erase the whole of the pictures.


PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
@ Patrick:

+1 about what Orio says about Noise Ninja Pro - I've been using it for years and can only recommend you buy it.

I got it for my old Minolta DiMage 7i as I felt it's files were a bit noisy even at ISO100 and it totally transformed everything for me.


PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Sorry Bob, just saw this post. I use Wavelet Denoise, I find it much more controllable than NN installed version. One thing for sure, one does absolutely need a noise reduction software, until they bring the technology of the sensors up to a better level than we currently have


patrickh


PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I see Wavelet Denoise is for GIMP - can you use it as a PS plug-in?


PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
It's a native ASP plugin:
http://aftershotpro.com/plugins/index.html?plug=waveletdenoise

I (yes, ASP user as well) use Wavelet Denoise mostly for color noise and NoiseNinja for a slight luminance noise reduction.


PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
They just posted a significant update


patrickh


highlight recovery is now really good


PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
patrickh wrote:
They just posted a significant update


Thanks Patrick, downloading it now!


PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Corel has fired the old bibble software team .... lets see if it will be worthwile to stay for long with the program Mad


PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ouch - did not see that piece of news. Unfortunately Corel does not have the best rep as a developer, they tend to buy and then milk.



patrickh
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