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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 7:21 pm    Post subject: Help me obi wan, you're my only hope! Reply with quote

The pictures will speak for my stupidity Embarassed this has fungus and i foolishly tried to open it with a wrench. my question is, how do i go about getting to the fungus in the easiest manner and is it possible without specialist tools, i have some screwdrivers. All help greatly appreciated Smile





PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you damaged the filter thread? The pics are a bit too small to see clearly.

If they're still OK you could first try removeing the engraved ring around the front element using a rubber friction tool.


PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes i have indeed damaged the thread, but, i can still can put the filter on, so its not completely messed up. What is this tool you speak of?


PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

These things can be super frustrating to unlock because they've been like this for so long they are completely seized but once they are loose they come out like butter only to make fun of you. Bastard lenses and small threads and screws and stuff!!

If you don't have the right tools you really have to be careful not to do more harm than good. Take special attention to the glass surface, it will look much worse than fungus when heavily scratched and you will regret you even thought of doing it!

The rubber thingy is the perfect tool because you gain lots of friction and it will probably unscrew after one or two twists without that or the special tool that fits those small slots that face each other, you will be doing most of your twisting strength not evenly but on specific spots and it will be very hard to unscrew. Not impossible though because I have done it several times on several lenses by hand (with a little help of WD40 I must confess).

Go to a store where they sell bathroom stuff, like home utilities stores, they will probably have on stock those black covers for sinks, you just need to select the appropriate diameter , the same or 1mm narrower than your lens filter thread diameter.



Either this or purchase a kit of special tools that fit those tiny slots but that will be more expensive. That auction site we all know has them.


PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks very much CA, i have a good idea on how to do it now thanks to you Smile


PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Often the rings aren't very tight and you can unscrew them with a simple pencil eraser. Another good way is to cut up an old rubber glove, lay it over the lens and use a small jar lid or even an M42 rear cap to apply the pressure. I've even used one of those wooden valve grinding tools with a rubber sucker on the end - these are very good for unscrewing the caps on film advance levers. Smile


PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

peterqd wrote:
Often the rings aren't very tight and you can unscrew them with a simple pencil eraser. Another good way is to cut up an old rubber glove, lay it over the lens and use a small jar lid or even an M42 rear cap to apply the pressure. I've even used one of those wooden valve grinding tools with a rubber sucker on the end - these are very good for unscrewing the caps on film advance levers. Smile


Looks like rubber is the key to all this. I may go the way of the rubber glove, thx for the heads up Smile


PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i amaze myself at times Wink i got the first part off using the rubber idea, thanks to all, but could not get any futhur. so i started from the other end, got one piece off, looked inside and knew it was time to quit. A ball bearing popped out, now the apperture revolves without any click. I have had innumerable successes in the past taking out the extra bits the manufacturers have needlessly put in things Wink Like i say, i amaze myself...........


PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are some pretty complex mechanisms inside a lens I wouldnt dare to mess with, that is one of them. Everything that involves tiny moving parts are out of my league.


PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good luck with the lens servicing. I don't dare because I suffer from "fat finger syndrome", which is why I am going back to buttons on my mobile phone after two frustrating years with touch-screen.


PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

here is how you disassemble this lens:
http://forum.mflenses.com/tokina-rmc-80-200mm-for-olympus-om-how-to-guid-t16273.html

mine also had fungus on the inside part of the front element, so i had to clean it