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A risky decission?. (To bring the DP1s as only camera)
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 2:45 pm    Post subject: A risky decission?. (To bring the DP1s as only camera) Reply with quote

I haven't finished my holidays yet, but I've comeback home for a couple of days to take my son to the airport. (He's going to visit our US relatives in Louisiana for three weeks). So I've just downloaded the pics from the camera for our one week trip along France: Lyon, Annecy, Aix Les Bains, Chambery, Grenoble, Montelimar, Poet Laval, Dieulefit, Grignan, La Garde Adhemar, Avignon and back home.

Since I wanted to keep the luggage at minimum I took a risky decission: Not to take any other cam than the small DP1s with its Foveon sensor and 16.6mm lens (roughly equivalent to a 28mm lens in FF). I have to admit the 28mm focal lens is not my favourite one, I do prefer very much the 35mm (equivalent), but for the sake of the space and weight I put the DP1s in a small bag, with four 4Gig memory cards, one spare battery and the battery charger.

Not to take the NEX-7 was a hard decission, but I'm still unconfortable with it and I didn't want to have to fight against the unknown.

At the end, I'm more than satisfied with the decission: Even the DP1s is like a crazy cow in terms of ergonomy and light metering, and I miss the ability of having the histogram on screen. But otherwise is the perfect camera for traveling: sharp lens, nice clean colours and really good B&W from the RAW shots.

I'm a bit biased with this cam, so I'd appreciate your comments.

These are some samples from our first stop, Annecy:

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Jes.


PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, Jes, you're a brave man!

Although I really like the DP1s and often bring it when going on holiday (I LOVE the results in sunny weather!), I would not use it as my only cam.

But your images show that you made it! Well done!



My minimum set at the moment would be:

NEX-7
SEL 2.8/16 + wide-angle-converter (for wide angle shots)....equiv. 18mm /24mm
SEL 18-55 OSS (as a universal zoom)................................equiv. 28 - 80 mm
Sigma EX 2.8/30 (as a universal prime).............................equiv. 45mm
either SEL 55-210 OSS or Hektor 4.5/135 (as a tele)...........equiv. 90-300mm or 200mm
Zuiko 1.8/38 or Hexanon 1.4/57 (for low light)....................equiv. 57mm or 85mm

Sigma DP1s or Leica Digilux 2 (as a "compact" P'n'S)..........equiv. 28mm or 28-90 mm
Canon G3 IR (for infrared)


PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jes i think it was a good decision judging from the results, which are excellent on my screen. i am very surprised by what apoears to be very good handling by foveon of low light conditions of last picture as my sd12 sucked in this regard. the color and depth of the shots are excellent. i assume you cropped them, and if this is true you didnt lose much in IQ. certainly this is a camera you can feel good about taking anywhere as your only.

i did exactly the same thing when my wife and i visited france a few weeks ago, only i brought just the x100. i loved the simplicity of the setup, not having to think about what lenses to bring, just concentrating on learning how to get the most out of what i had. i think it makes one a better photographer, certainly a more thoughtful one. i posted my holiday images here also on the AF section and would be curious about your thoughts on them.
tony


PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I should learn from your wisdom Jes and Tony and stop dragging the Nikon and 3 lenses with me all over Europe Wink

So far I've learnt that France is a beauty and hope to explore some of it myself when circumstances permit.

Many thanks for the pictures.


PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tony: I would consider the X100 a much more versatile cam than the DP1s, due to the longer FL and the faster lens (and the higher resolution). Just with an X100? I could imagine that!

Lena: One Nikon and 3 lenses? That's not much. You should be proud of yourself because you can live with restrictions! Wink


PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, i fibbed a little; i also brought my xpan and contax T. but the x100 was my only digicam... Embarassed
tony


PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you did it wrong, NEX-7 is brilliant , these are just okay. Sorry Jes this is my honest opinion , vacation pictures usually not repeatable .


PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nice city, great weather !

Attila wrote:
I think you did it wrong, NEX-7 is brilliant , these are just okay. Sorry Jes this is my honest opinion , vacation pictures usually not repeatable .

better to use what inspire us, when I was in Turkey I almost used only the samyang 14 just because it was the last baby
and if pictures had gone wrong, what's the deal, I don't work for magazine
if Jes felled better with the DP1, then it is the right choice


PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LucisPictor wrote:
Wow, Jes, you're a brave man!

Although I really like the DP1s and often bring it when going on holiday (I LOVE the results in sunny weather!), I would not use it as my only cam.

But your images show that you made it! Well done!



My minimum set at the moment would be:

NEX-7
SEL 2.8/16 + wide-angle-converter (for wide angle shots)....equiv. 18mm /24mm
SEL 18-55 OSS (as a universal zoom)................................equiv. 28 - 80 mm
Sigma EX 2.8/30 (as a universal prime).............................equiv. 45mm
either SEL 55-210 OSS or Hektor 4.5/135 (as a tele)...........equiv. 90-300mm or 200mm
Zuiko 1.8/38 or Hexanon 1.4/57 (for low light)....................equiv. 57mm or 85mm

Sigma DP1s or Leica Digilux 2 (as a "compact" P'n'S)..........equiv. 28mm or 28-90 mm
Canon G3 IR (for infrared)


@Carsten,
Thanks for the comment. To me your "minimum" kit is right if you go to a photographic trip, but for leisure and occasional pictures is too big for me Smile
I cannot afford to change lenses because my family keeps walking and I've to be quick in shooting if I want to keep them in the viewrange Wink.

rbelyell wrote:
jes i think it was a good decision judging from the results, which are excellent on my screen. i am very surprised by what apoears to be very good handling by foveon of low light conditions of last picture as my sd12 sucked in this regard. the color and depth of the shots are excellent. i assume you cropped them, and if this is true you didnt lose much in IQ. certainly this is a camera you can feel good about taking anywhere as your only.

i did exactly the same thing when my wife and i visited france a few weeks ago, only i brought just the x100. i loved the simplicity of the setup, not having to think about what lenses to bring, just concentrating on learning how to get the most out of what i had. i think it makes one a better photographer, certainly a more thoughtful one. i posted my holiday images here also on the AF section and would be curious about your thoughts on them.
tony


@Tony,
Thanks for your comment. The low light results are not so good in colour, but once converted to B&W they improve a lot. (Always shooting RAW is mandatory). No cropping and light PP on all the shots (just exposition and light levels). No sharpening or noise reduction.(Not necessary). I felt sometimes missing a longer lens (a 135mm would have been welcome). But at the end I was used to the restrictions and I have to tell I enjoyed a lot the experience.
Which part of France did you visit?. I'll take a look to your shots, it will be nice to see your viewpoint Wink.

Lena wrote:
I should learn from your wisdom Jes and Tony and stop dragging the Nikon and 3 lenses with me all over Europe Wink

So far I've learnt that France is a beauty and hope to explore some of it myself when circumstances permit.

Many thanks for the pictures.


@Lena,
Thanks for your comment. It's quite enlightning to assume some restrictions on the equipment. In my case it forced me to focus on photography and not in the gear.
France is a beatiful country with excellent food and a very clean and ordered place. I miss it since I got back home Sad

Attila wrote:
I think you did it wrong, NEX-7 is brilliant , these are just okay. Sorry Jes this is my honest opinion , vacation pictures usually not repeatable .


@Attila:

Not to be sorry Smile I appreciate your sincere opinion.

Probably you are right, but I feel really uncomfortable with the NEX-7. I bought it in a impulse, a friend of mine wanted to sell his one to buy a Fuji XPRO1. I was quite happy with my NEX-5, but I fell into the temptation and I regret the decission...
It does not give me anything the NEX-5 didn't give. The viewfinder is a commodity, but I got a Hoodman viewer and it was fine for me. The sensor gives more Mpixels, but I don't need them...

On the other hand, I've taken around 750 shots with the DP1s in 8 days, 700 are okay for me. So no woes at all... Wink

poilu wrote:
nice city, great weather !



Poilu,
Thanks for commenting. Yes it was a nice city and we enjoyed a fantastic weather. Just a bit hot, but nothing to what we were not used to Wink

For all of you, a couple of shots of a lavender field (typical in the area):





Jes.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am still with two NEX-3 Smile


PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Attila wrote:
I am still with two NEX-3 Smile


Good decission. I should have kept my NEX-5...

Jes.


PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the first lavendar field photo is perfect.


PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rbelyell wrote:
the first lavendar field photo is perfect.


Thanks, Tony!

Jes.