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iangreenhalgh1
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 Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:18 am Post subject: Kiev II 1957 - First export version |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Many thanks to Attila for finding this gem for me.
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Attila
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:21 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Nice , first export export version if perfect working order  look forward your shoots!
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:46 am Post subject: |
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fotomachi wrote:
I can feel the smooth Kiev-vibes being transferred over the interfibre all over to my desk 
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iangreenhalgh1
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I took her out today and shot a roll, despite the light rain (we had a hour of light rain as an interlude to the torrential rain) and wow, what a camera, I am in love immediately. The rf is wonderful, far, far better than my Fed 4 or Zorki 6, even makes the Bessa and Ikonta-M I've been shooting look a bit inadequate. Everything about this camera makes the Leica copies feel cheap and a bit inadequate. The finger wheel focusing is fantastic and the focus is so much smoother and faster than with a Leica/Fed/Zorki.
How the hell did Leica succeed and Contax fall by the wayside? This is 10x the camera of a Leica of the same vintage, I doubt an M3 is as good as this... I would have to remove my glasses to use a Leica/Fed/Zorki but with the Kiev II I can leave them on and see great through the VF/RF.
Seriously, who bought a Leica when the Contax was available and sooooo much better?
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
commercial... like Canon vs Nikon etc etc
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iangreenhalgh1
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I guess Leica had the better publicity department then 
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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Contax II vs. Leica III = Contax better
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Contax II copy vs. Leica III copy = Contax copy better
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iangreenhalgh1
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
| Orio wrote: |
Contax II vs. Leica III = Contax better
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Contax II copy vs. Leica III copy = Contax copy better
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That's what I thought too 
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skida
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skida wrote:
That looks like a fun camera to own. I doubt I will find one at the car boot sale on Sunday. |
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
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| That looks like a fun camera to own. I doubt I will find one at the car boot sale on Sunday. |
Seriously good camera, thanks for GOD people start to respect it. No more camera goes to trash.
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iangreenhalgh1
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
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| That looks like a fun camera to own. I doubt I will find one at the car boot sale on Sunday. |
You might find a Kiev 4 which is the same thing really, those are quite common in the UK, if you see one, grab it if it works.
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skida wrote:
I saw some Kievs and Zorkis, body only, but if I bought one it would be another money pit. I have about 14 35mm cameras and my good lady has raised her eyebrows at me a number of times already. |
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iangreenhalgh1
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
A working Kiev is a thing of joy to use, if you see a cheap one, take it, there is no bigger bargain to be had imho, I am in love with mine. The Jupiter-8 lens is awesome too, I'm excited to try my J-12 2.8/35 with it soon too.
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| iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
| A working Kiev is a thing of joy to use, if you see a cheap one, take it, there is no bigger bargain to be had imho, I am in love with mine. The Jupiter-8 lens is awesome too, I'm excited to try my J-12 2.8/35 with it soon too. |
I second that opinion. I am using a Kiev-4M lately, pure joy
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| iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
| How the hell did Leica succeed and Contax fall by the wayside? |
May be an important reason was the pricetag of the Contaxes? They were far more expensive then Leicas if I know well. |
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
| Minolfan wrote: |
| iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
| How the hell did Leica succeed and Contax fall by the wayside? |
May be an important reason was the pricetag of the Contaxes? They were far more expensive then Leicas if I know well. |
You know well , Contax was far more advanced and made for rich people just like Leica today. We have joke here about Leica vs Contax
what happen if you sit on accidentally on a Leica II, III body it will brake (due very weak material) how about Contax ? built like tank she survive more serious abuse too. Leica and Contax ownership can be key figure too, who can sell better himself. Like Swarowsky 'crystals'
same sh* for 10x more than made in China 'jewels' I did try Contax and Leica lenses early post-war ones Leica was far behind Contax and it's Russian clones.
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dee
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dee wrote:
I have a 1957 Kiev 4 , but it's not in such good condition , however , ithe shutter is sweet and quiet , so someone had it serviced at some point . The top plate of the meter has no strenthening stamped ridges unique to very early Kiev 4 .
It seems that the thin metal dinted .
The pre-1960 Kievs are of better quality than the later cameras as the push for quantity caused some problems . |
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Attila
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| Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
KIEV quality actually pretty good hard to find broken one at least here locally we did look broken ones to make an adapter from body from 20-30 may one not works, harder to get in accurate working one, dust is enemy, many of them slow. I have same experience earlier are better. Zeiss people in captivity was better workers ... and Stalin didn't like crap work..
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