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clickshot
Joined: 24 Jul 2012 Posts: 3
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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:34 pm Post subject: Is this a genuine Pentax K to M42 mount adapter? |
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clickshot wrote:
Hello,
I recently bought what was advertised as a genuine Pentax K to M42 adapter to mount my M42 Russian lenses on my Pentax K1000. However, when the adapter arrived it was obvious that it was missing the spring described in this instruction sheet:
http://www.mosphotos.com/PentaxScrew...nsAdapter.html
The adapter looks like this:
http://forum.mflenses.com/userpix/20127/5868_asahipentax1_1.jpg
http://forum.mflenses.com/userpix/20127/5868_asahipentax2_2.jpg
http://forum.mflenses.com/userpix/20127/5868_asahipentax3_1.jpg
This is the section where the spring would normally be. I've never seen a genuine adapter before but to my untrained eye it looks as if someone has forcibly removed the spring with a pair of pliers as there is a ragged edge where I assume the spring would be. If this is the case, can someone confirm whether this adapter would be safe to use, and second, would I be able to remove it once inserted? (I'm too scared of damaging my precious and well-loved camera and lenses).
From what I've read around on the web it appears that some people remove the spring so that they can mount the adapter directly on the lens rather than on the camera body. The drawback of this is that in this way the lens doesn't lock in place. Would it be safe to use it this way? |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 11:01 pm Post subject: Re: Is this a genuine Pentax K to M42 mount adapter? |
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Attila wrote:
clickshot wrote: |
Hello,
I recently bought what was advertised as a genuine Pentax K to M42 adapter to mount my M42 Russian lenses on my Pentax K1000. However, when the adapter arrived it was obvious that it was missing the spring described in this instruction sheet:
http://www.mosphotos.com/PentaxScrew...nsAdapter.html
The adapter looks like this:
http://forum.mflenses.com/userpix/20127/5868_asahipentax1_1.jpg
http://forum.mflenses.com/userpix/20127/5868_asahipentax2_2.jpg
http://forum.mflenses.com/userpix/20127/5868_asahipentax3_1.jpg
This is the section where the spring would normally be. I've never seen a genuine adapter before but to my untrained eye it looks as if someone has forcibly removed the spring with a pair of pliers as there is a ragged edge where I assume the spring would be. If this is the case, can someone confirm whether this adapter would be safe to use, and second, would I be able to remove it once inserted? (I'm too scared of damaging my precious and well-loved camera and lenses).
From what I've read around on the web it appears that some people remove the spring so that they can mount the adapter directly on the lens rather than on the camera body. The drawback of this is that in this way the lens doesn't lock in place. Would it be safe to use it this way? |
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Attila
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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I have genuine adapter , it has spring and lock into camera body, it has a tool what help to remove it. _________________ -------------------------------
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clickshot
Joined: 24 Jul 2012 Posts: 3
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 7:10 am Post subject: |
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clickshot wrote:
I found this on a different manual focus forum:
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Personally I've removed this spring so that the adaptor is fixed to the lens and stays there. This way the lens can be mounted/removed just like a K lens (except it doesn't lock but I haven't found this to be a problem) and the adaptor can easily be swapped between lenses using a K-mount body cap as a wrench. |
Hmm... I wonder whether I should keep the adapter and just buy a body cap to use as a wrench. Price was £17 plus post & postage so not too shabby compared to what these adapters are normally going for on ebay. However, I do think the seller should have pointed out that the spring is missing.
I'm still not sure whether I should risk it, though. I love my K1000 and don't want an adapter permanently stuck to it. |
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Spotmatic
Joined: 18 Aug 2008 Posts: 4045 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 7:28 am Post subject: |
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Spotmatic wrote:
I've never had a single problem with my original K-mount adapters (of which I have three). I can remove them just fine with just the help of my fingernail, and I use/remove them on almost a daily basis.
BTW, the oldest version of the adapter has its back painted matte black. They omitted that in later versions. _________________ Peter - Moderator
Pentax K-5 + Pentax 645 + Canon 5D + Bessa RF 10,5cm Heliar, and a 'little' bag full of MF lenses. The lens list is * here *.
My fast 80s: Asahi-Kogaku Takumar 83mm f/1.9 - Super-Takumar 85mm f/1.9 - FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited - Cyclop 85/1.5 (Helios-40 innards) - Komura 80mm f/1.8 - Meyer Görlitz Primoplan 7,5cm 1:1.9 - Carl Zeiss Jena 80mm f/1.8 Pancolar - Canon 85mm f/1.8 S.S.C. - Canon 85mm f/1.2 S.S.C. Aspherical |
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7796 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:37 am Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
http://www.srb-griturn.com/m42-lenses-on-pentax-k-206-p.asp
I use these adapters from SRB Griturn and never have any problems with them. I spent many years working on quality control on small machined products and soon recognize crappy machining, these are as good as the genuine Pentax item. And only £15-95, which is possibly cheaper than the Chinese ebay ones ? but SRB have always been quick and reliable for anything I've bought from them.
On some of mine I remove the spring, but I have drilled a small hole for the Pentax lens lock pin in a lot of my lenses. But even on those that aren't locked on I've never had a lens fall off, but the spring is no problem as long as it's used as it should be used. I'm sure that most of the bitching about 'cheap adapters' and the 'stupid spring' is down to people who don't have the patience to do it right! _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
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clickshot
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:00 am Post subject: |
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clickshot wrote:
Thank you all for your replies.
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I use these adapters from SRB Griturn and never have any problems with them. I spent many years working on quality control on small machined products and soon recognize crappy machining, these are as good as the genuine Pentax item. And only £15-95, which is possibly cheaper than the Chinese ebay ones ? but SRB have always been quick and reliable for anything I've bought from them. |
That's good to know and I may well order one from them. However, given that I've got one in my hands right now I'm wondering whether I should give it a spin. Given that it lacks the spring clip, do I mount it on the camera body first or on the lens itself? And how will I remove it from the lens or from the camera? |
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7796 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
If you are only going to use the springless adapter on one lens I would tighten it onto the lens really tight with a lens cap, or even put a tiny bit of glue - Loctite threadlock - on the thread and leave the adapter on the lens. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
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