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Katastrofo
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10405 Location: USA
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Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:50 pm Post subject: Mamiya RB67 with Polaroid back |
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Katastrofo wrote:
I finally got a clump of this film loaded in the back and this is my first baby steps:
Fuji FP100C
just a hint of breeze, but enough to trump f16, 1/30sec
scanned prints @ 720dpi
camera with back
some of the prints drying
I think I've managed to convert a 6 lbs + camera into a plastic Holga. |
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6602 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:31 am Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
I've never understood why people liked the output of Polaroid.
It has always seemed like a quality compromise for the sake of convenience. _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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Katastrofo
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10405 Location: USA
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:39 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Luis, agree completely. I certainly don't get the rapture with this, and have two more cartridges to
shoot, plus 4 remaining in this first one. If it could give a negative to be scanned along with the print,
they might have had something. |
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:55 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Believe it or not, photo clubs in Italy keep making courses for people to use the new polaroid
(I think it's called Impossible Project or something like that)
and they are having great success, with exhibitions made with the gallery walls with all those
tiny frames hanging. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:01 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Polaroid backs were intended to allow photographers to check they had the lighting and other aspects correct before shooting film, mostly used in fashion shoots so stylists, hairdressers, makeup artists etc could see how their work looked to the camera and adjust accordingly. A preview to check things, like an LCD screen on a digital camera.
Nice work Bill, I really like #2, the lighting is great. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Katastrofo
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10405 Location: USA
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:44 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Orio and Ian, thanks, I may try some of this film either at the botanical garden or Monte Sano. Need to load a new
battery in my Digisix and read its manual on temp, timer. From what I've read you can screw the pooch by not separating
the film at the right moment for given temps. My very first frame was blank, yes, the Polaroid back has a dark slide, too...sheesh. |
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attack_donut
Joined: 06 Apr 2012 Posts: 20 Location: East Coast
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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attack_donut wrote:
Can you explain how this back works?
Is this like the old instand film, shake it to develop it, or am I missing something completely? _________________ O rise up, all ye lost ones
as one, we'll claw the clouds
Rise up, the forsaken and dethroned,
a Legion wronged, to claw the clouds |
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kansalliskala
Joined: 19 Jul 2007 Posts: 5039 Location: Southern Finland countryside
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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kansalliskala wrote:
attack_donut wrote: |
Can you explain how this back works?
Is this like the old instand film, shake it to develop it, or am I missing something completely? |
just couple of layers, rip the thing out of casette and peel a layer _________________ MF: Kodak DCS SLR/c; Samsung NX10; OM-10; Canon T50
Zuiko 28/3.5, Distagon 35/2.8; Yashica ML 50/2;
Zuiko 50/1.4; S-M-C 120/2.8; Zuiko 135/3.5; 200/5;
Tamron AD1 135/2.8, Soligor 180/3.5; Tamron AD1 300/5.6
Tamron zooms: 01A, Z-210
Yashicaflex C; Київ 4 + Юпитер 8, 11; Polaroid 100; Olympus XA; Yashica T3
Museum stuff: Certo-Phot; Tele-Edixon 135; Polaris 90-190; Asahi Bellows; Ixus IIs
Projects: Agfa Isolette III (no shutter), Canon AE-1D (no sensor),
Nikon D80 (dead), The "Peace Camera"
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 12:35 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
luisalegria wrote: |
I've never understood why people liked the output of Polaroid.
It has always seemed like a quality compromise for the sake of convenience. |
+1 and what Bill said so true down rank camera to Holga _________________ -------------------------------
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Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Katastrofo
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10405 Location: USA
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Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 12:50 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Yes, sad to say, I'm in no big hurry to finish the cartridge, much less shoot the other two. |
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aspen
Joined: 15 Dec 2010 Posts: 307 Location: Maryland, USA
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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:09 am Post subject: |
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aspen wrote:
My best friend has a Mamiya RB67 with a Polaroid back, but sadly the lens aperture blades stay closed. I was hoping to buy some new lenses for it; they seem relatively inexpensive, and there is quite a variety, even though they are ALL Mamiya lenses. I like the interchangeable back, too.
I am, mildly, disappointed in the reaction towards Polaroid film, here. Not that anyone must love a certain film or a process, or have the same tastes as I. I respect all of you, and even though we have never met, I feel as if we are friends. My first thought, after reading the responses, was that none of you grew up with Polaroids, as we have in America. It is very much an interwoven thread in our culture. My father was an avid Polaroid user. There were literally thousands of pictures we, my brothers and sister, went through after his death. But you have to understand that the actual photo; the one held in the hand, is as much a part of the time and place as the content of the photo itself. It is because the Polaroid is instantaneous. There is an "act" which becomes part of the memory, where ever, or what ever, after the "click" of the shutter there is a gathering around of all participants to see what it looks like. And that gathering around is what is part of the American culture; the anticipation, the pointing at it and each other, the laughter and smiles, and sometimes, the disappointment that it didn't come out well. So, years later, when holding in one's hand that very same print, there is a memory that is slightly more deeper; a connection to the past that is a physical thing, as well as, emotional. There is something precious in the unique, single print.
But I am being sentimental, and I apologize if my observation is in error. But I would suggest walking up to a stranger and asking them if they would mind having a "Polaroid" taken of them. Even the most camera shy will agree because people are curious, and they like the surprise and magic of it, still.
Here are few photos that my father took of me when i was a child. (you can see the accidental finger prints on #3) And also, the fourth one is an image transfer, where the dye of the negative is placed on watercolor paper and then painted with watercolors or acrylics.
#1
#2
#3
#4
_________________ Cameras; Sony Nex5n Lenses; Konica Hexanons; 21mm f2.8, 40mm f1,8, 50mm f1.4, 50mmf1.7,57mm f1.4, 100mm f2.8, 135mm f3.2, 200mm f4, MC Helios 77M-4 50mm f1.8, Jupiter 8 50 f2, Super Takumar 85mm f1.9, Vivitar Series 1 90mm f2.5 (Macro), Steinheil Munchen Culminar 85mm f2.8, Steinheil Munchen Exagon 35mm f2.8, Jupiter 37A 135mm, Astra Berlin 135mm f3.5, Angenieux 180mm f4 , Tair 3-PhS 300mm f4.5 |
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Katastrofo
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10405 Location: USA
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:07 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Aspen, I'm sorry if what I said offended you, and can certainly understand what we
experienced in our salad days, grows more tender over the years.
Thanks for sharing these photos. |
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aspen
Joined: 15 Dec 2010 Posts: 307 Location: Maryland, USA
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:23 am Post subject: |
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aspen wrote:
Oh no, my friend, there was no offense taken. I completely understand that the quality of the film itself is not on par with many other types. And that was the sentiment expressed by most, including you. I certainly didn't mean to put any one on the defensive about that point. I only wished to express that there is more to taking Polaroids than the mere quality of image. I enjoy shooting them, as well as other formats. They do have their place, and I would hope that each of you, if possible, could find a joy similar to the one I feel. _________________ Cameras; Sony Nex5n Lenses; Konica Hexanons; 21mm f2.8, 40mm f1,8, 50mm f1.4, 50mmf1.7,57mm f1.4, 100mm f2.8, 135mm f3.2, 200mm f4, MC Helios 77M-4 50mm f1.8, Jupiter 8 50 f2, Super Takumar 85mm f1.9, Vivitar Series 1 90mm f2.5 (Macro), Steinheil Munchen Culminar 85mm f2.8, Steinheil Munchen Exagon 35mm f2.8, Jupiter 37A 135mm, Astra Berlin 135mm f3.5, Angenieux 180mm f4 , Tair 3-PhS 300mm f4.5 |
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womble
Joined: 28 Sep 2009 Posts: 987 Location: Hertfordshire
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:03 am Post subject: |
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womble wrote:
Not all polaroid film was dire. Type 55 was a 5x4 large format film that created both a negative and a positive. The negs were stunning. There is a book called "New York Sleeps" by Christopher Thomas which shows what the stuff could do. Ansel Adams used similar material (he was a tester for Polaroid) to his usual stunning high standards. Like most film manufacturers, there is the consumer stuff and there is the good stuff.
Whereas I don't mourn the demise of those small polaroids, I wish I had been into LF photography when Type 55 was easily available and in date. You can still pick up boxes of it on ebay but it is pricey and out-of-date.
BTW, I highly recommend "New York Sleeps", it contains many stunning photographs in a style I really like.
K. _________________ Kris Lockyear
Digital: Pentax K-3iii
35mm film SLRs: various Pentax bodies from a H2 to a SF7, favourites the MX and LX
Rangefinder: Zeiss Super Ikonta IV, FED2, Zorkii-4, Industar 26m, Jupiter 8, 11 and 12 lenses
Medium format: various folders, Yashica Mat 124 G. Lubitel 2
LF: Horseman LE 5x4 view camera.
MF lenses (favourites) Pentax "K" 200mm f/2.5; "K" 135mm f/2.5; "K" 50mm f/1.2; "K" 35mm f/2; "K" 30mm f/2.8; "K" 28mm f/3.5 shift; "K" 15mm f/3.5; M 100mm f/2.8; M 40mm f/2.8; Jupiter-9 85mm |
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aspen
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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aspen wrote:
Thanks Kris. I found a link on Amazon for it. I'll get it. And I remember seeing some 8x10 Polaroids.
http://www.amazon.com/New-York-Sleeps-Christopher-Thomas/dp/3791342347/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1340888676&sr=1-1&keywords=New+York+Sleeps _________________ Cameras; Sony Nex5n Lenses; Konica Hexanons; 21mm f2.8, 40mm f1,8, 50mm f1.4, 50mmf1.7,57mm f1.4, 100mm f2.8, 135mm f3.2, 200mm f4, MC Helios 77M-4 50mm f1.8, Jupiter 8 50 f2, Super Takumar 85mm f1.9, Vivitar Series 1 90mm f2.5 (Macro), Steinheil Munchen Culminar 85mm f2.8, Steinheil Munchen Exagon 35mm f2.8, Jupiter 37A 135mm, Astra Berlin 135mm f3.5, Angenieux 180mm f4 , Tair 3-PhS 300mm f4.5 |
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