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Orio
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 4:35 pm Post subject: Bulk film question |
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Orio wrote:
I ask those who know (it seems better than asking those who don't know )
How many 36 pose rolls can you make from 30,5 meters of film (which seems to be the standard measure)? _________________ Orio, Administrator
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
A 36exp roll is 1.4m long so divide 30.5 by 1.4 = 21.78.
Call it 21. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Orio
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Thanks, this way I can figure out how much is the bargain from premade rolls. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Keep your eye on ebay for cheap bulk rolls, I've bought several lately very cheap so I have enough film to last me a couple of years, I'm also hunting film types that are no longer available, just found a 30m roll of Kodak Vericolor, it was discontinued in 2003, I only paid 10ukp. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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std
Joined: 09 Feb 2010 Posts: 1826 Location: Bulgaria
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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std wrote:
The good thing is that you do not need to spool 36 exposures every time- sometimes I'm putting 12 or 24 only.
The bad thing is that you need to be careful not to apply to much tension - sometimes the film gets scratched. Another annoying thing is that once you load your bulk loader you have only this type of film until it finishes . After 1 year I still have Rollei Retro 80S in my loader and it may take a while until the roll gets empty. _________________ Stefan
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Thanks everyone for the infos!
I don't think the occupied loader can be a problem. An empty cartridge for format 135 costs 90 eurocents. Easy enough to buy 20 of them and load them all together. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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berraneck
Joined: 24 May 2009 Posts: 972 Location: prague, czech republic
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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berraneck wrote:
Orio wrote: |
Thanks everyone for the infos!
I don't think the occupied loader can be a problem. An empty cartridge for format 135 costs 90 eurocents. Easy enough to buy 20 of them and load them all together. |
there´s no need to buy empty cartridges - I use the used ones from commercial labs, they give you them for free. there aren´t any issues with light leaks or whatsoever, 100+ cartridges went through my camera, just take care with fixing the start of film on the spool.
also the bulk loader costs 10ukp max on ebay - I am thinking about getting the second one, just in case:) _________________ equipment doesn´t count, good photographs do |
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I never use my bulk loader, I just roll it by hand in the dark, never had a problem, just loaded 25 rolls today, a bit tedious but so is using a bulk loader. I just use normal electrical tape to secure it to the spool. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Attila
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I suggest 24 frames , shorter rolls more handy in dark when you load it into spiral. _________________ -------------------------------
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
That's very true, 24exp rolls are much easier to load onto a spiral. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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ludoo
Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Posts: 1397 Location: Milan, Italy
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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ludoo wrote:
Unless you use steel tanks and spirals... _________________ My galleries
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mdarnton
Joined: 03 Mar 2012 Posts: 79 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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mdarnton wrote:
A 36 exp roll isn't 1.4meters. That's just the 36 frames, not including the leaders needed. By the time you figure in the leaders, it comes to about 19 full rolls. _________________ small formats: http://flickr.com/mdarnton
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
I never have any problem loading 36 poses film into my AP spirals.
I only may -occasionally- have problem if I forget to cut round the corners of the film at the side it enters the spiral. But since I don't forget... I don't have problems
But shorter rolls have an advantage when it comes to making tests. 36 poses can be eternally long when you simply want to make a test that requires 12 photos at the most. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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hoanpham
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 6:53 am Post subject: |
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hoanpham wrote:
std wrote: |
Another annoying thing is that once you load your bulk loader you have only this type of film until it finishes . After 1 year I still have Rollei Retro 80S in my loader and it may take a while until the roll gets empty. |
I unload the remaining roll and put it back to metal container, and use another roll. Marking and storing is a bit messy, but ok. Also i reuse empty film caps, and roll out 10 pcs a time different type. The work might be too much sometime, and i got the second bulk loader. |
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mdarnton
Joined: 03 Mar 2012 Posts: 79 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 11:29 am Post subject: |
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mdarnton wrote:
My wingspan with one wrist cocked in is about 36 exp. If you don't use a loader, you don't lose at least two shots at the tail end, and I find it quicker just working in the dark and getting it over with.
It's important to use long enough tape so that you have tape on both the front and back of the film--otherwise you just pull the film off the roll at the end. I wouldn't even think to mention this, except that I've known people to not do it. _________________ small formats: http://flickr.com/mdarnton
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europanorama
Joined: 27 May 2012 Posts: 128
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Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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europanorama wrote:
iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
Keep your eye on ebay for cheap bulk rolls, I've bought several lately very cheap so I have enough film to last me a couple of years, I'm also hunting film types that are no longer available, just found a 30m roll of Kodak Vericolor, it was discontinued in 2003, I only paid 10ukp. |
dont be surprised if you get not the color "green" right with vericolor. use only newest, old is crap. vc IIIS if i dont err. _________________ mpa |
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