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Any opinions on Zeiss Ikon Contax D vs. Icarex 35S TM?
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 7:23 pm    Post subject: Any opinions on Zeiss Ikon Contax D vs. Icarex 35S TM? Reply with quote

I am looking for a Zeiss Ikon branded SLR in m42 mount. It seems like my 2 choices are the East's Contax S or D, or the West's Icarex 35S TM.

Any opinion as to which has the best usability, reliability, etc?

Thanks


PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your budget is limited you could buy a Jenaflex which is PB mount and add a PB-M42 adapter. The Jenaflex will be much cheaper than either a Contax or a Icarex and is a much more modern camera, much lighter to carry.



http://www.praktica-collector.de/229_Jenaflex_AC-1.htm


PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the suggestion, I may consider that one in the future as well.


PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
If your budget is limited you could buy a Jenaflex which is PB mount and add a PB-M42 adapter. The Jenaflex will be much cheaper than either a Contax or a Icarex and is a much more modern camera, much lighter to carry.



http://www.praktica-collector.de/229_Jenaflex_AC-1.htm



A few words to the Contax S:

See this article - quite useful:
http://basepath.com/Photography/ContaxS.php

My father used to be a retoucher. He retouched pictures in large print-house where newspapers were printed.
BTW in reverse view - black was white and white was black - he was retouching negatives.
He's a person who knows how to use a pencil Wink

Our family had very limited budget but he decided to buy this Contax (in 50's!!) pictured below:


This is exactly the camera we had as a family with 'limited budget'. It's equipped with Biotar 2/58.

This had been our family asset until my brother dropped the camera in water - salt water. - on hols Smile
However, my father says - that was the best camera he could have ever bought Smile

Reliability? I think he's done thousands of pictures with this Smile He had never got a problem with it.
All BW, all developed by him, all our family pictures taken with this camera

One body, one lens - no more, no less.

He spent a fortune on that camera and took him 3 months to make all payments to the previous owner..
Thanks to God, the owner was his friend who agreed with more payments split in 3 months Smile

I can still hear the sound of this camera!

Contax, Made in Germany - a true legend in the camera world!

tf


PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for sharing. I always love hearing family histories. My first was a Zeiss Ikon Contaflex Super B. It has recently broken down on me so I thought as a replacement I should get an m42 mount, that way, I could share the lenses with my Sony a77 and Minolta 7000.


PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 2:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Any opinions on Zeiss Ikon Contax D vs. Icarex 35S TM? Reply with quote

decimusmaximus7 wrote:
I am looking for a Zeiss Ikon branded SLR in m42 mount. It seems like my 2 choices are the East's Contax S or D, or the West's Icarex 35S TM.

Any opinion as to which has the best usability, reliability, etc?

Thanks


I have an Icarex 35S TM:


I consider it the best M42 cameras I've ever used.

Considering usability, the Icarex meter and split-image focus aid features alone would put it way ahead of the Contax in my opinion.


PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had/have both in multiply copies, I am not fond of either of them. I sold already ICAREX cameras, much more advanced and trustworthy than old Contax D or S. Old Contax D and S basically worst edition of Praktica or Zenit. Easy to brake it to find a good working one a little magic , most of them has light leaks on curtain even if otherways works. Really not related to Contax ... at all. I still have a mint Contax D and some used bodies.

So let's say same bad words against ICAREX , I can't not my favorite , but reliable and works. One of my copy was stored in swamp , got lot of fungus , dust , but works even after such a bad storage. Easy to brake plastic battery cover, so handle it carefully.

My M42 camera suggestion is any newest Praktica VLC x or PLC x or MTL5B all usually works like charm without any issue. I had may 50+ due I sold lenses hard to find any non-working one.
My favourite is Fujica 801, small advanced one and cheap.


PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dof wrote:
I have an Icarex 35S TM: ... I consider it the best M42 cameras I've ever used.


I don't have one, but I have successor Voigtländer VSL1. Very, very nice M42 camera too. But no Zeiss on it Sad
There was a Zeiss Ikon SL706 in between. That might be an alternative.
Without any doubt better users then the good old Contax.

But I support Attila with his preference for the Fujica ST801.


PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I forgot about the SL 706. Does anyone have one or know of one they'd like to sell?


PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello,

I have to say some good words about the Contax-S.

It was the "family camera" until my father, in 1980, bought a new Yashica SLR. The Contax-S was a present of his parents in 1952 or '53. He used it also in very difficult situations/environment. When I was a child and a boy, I always remember him (when in "photo-mood") with the Contax-S suspended at his neck. It never had a problem.

It's now on my bookshelf, in its leather ever-ready case: it still works perfectly.

With the Italian Rectaflex, the Contax-S was the first reflex camera with built-in pentaprism so, it has all the limits of a new concept. In any case, it's a pleasure to use one, understanding that we are holding a 1948-49 state-of-the-art SLR.

The Icarex-TM is heavy and noisy, but it's a fine, reliable camera. I agree though, that a 42x1 Praktica equipped with Zeiss Jena lenses can be an extremely fine choice.

Best wishes,

Enzo


PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 1:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also take a look at a Pentacon ZI in an m42 mount, same camera as the Contax D at a lower cost. I am not sure why they do not sell at the same price but you can get a good deal.


PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mmelvis wrote:
Also take a look at a Pentacon ZI


Not ZI actually but Zeiss Jena - since Zeiss Ikon is West and Pentacon is a Eastern Germany trademark.


PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes Pentacon ZI is the same camera:
http://captjack.exaktaphile.com/praktina/Contax-Pentacon%20Cameras.htm


PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Orio,

the Pentacon "ZI" (meaning "Zeiss Ikon") existed, and it was one of the first cameras, based on the Spiegelreflex-Contax, after the legal fight started between the two Zeiss firms.

It bears the "Ernemann-Turm" logo on the pentaprism, where the earlier Contax-S had the Zeiss Ikon one. Under the "Turm" there was a little, engraved "ZI". After that last attempt, the Zeiss of East Germany ceased the use of the "Zeiss Ikon" name.

Back to the topic, all the Jena SLRs of the Contax family can be very good cameras, in my opinion well worth the costs to check/repair it: it's extremely compact, especially when equipped with the very fine CZJ Tessars, either 2,8 or 3,5. Usually, these cameras come with the excellent Biotar 58/2.

Best wishes,

Enzo