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attack_donut
Joined: 06 Apr 2012 Posts: 20 Location: East Coast
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:46 pm Post subject: Really grainy film? |
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attack_donut wrote:
I have an idea for a photoshoot, and I wanted to do it in film and I need some that is really grainy, either 120, 220, or 35mm (I have cameras for all three)
I'd like B/W, but I can always convert later. _________________ O rise up, all ye lost ones
as one, we'll claw the clouds
Rise up, the forsaken and dethroned,
a Legion wronged, to claw the clouds |
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Nesster
Joined: 24 Apr 2008 Posts: 5883 Location: NJ, USA
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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Nesster wrote:
Out of date Foma 400 I find is very grainy. It was pretty grainy even when not out of date, in D-76. _________________ -Jussi
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ForenSeil
Joined: 15 Apr 2011 Posts: 2726 Location: Kiel, Germany.
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:50 pm Post subject: Re: Really grainy film? |
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ForenSeil wrote:
attack_donut wrote: |
I have an idea for a photoshoot, and I wanted to do it in film and I need some that is really grainy, either 120, 220, or 35mm (I have cameras for all three)
I'd like B/W, but I can always convert later. |
-Ilford DELTA 3200, Tmax 3200 or any other very fast B/W film will be grainy while having still a very good tonal range.
-Rodinal development often produces a harder grain than Xtol and co., if you want to develope it yourself (depends on film and dev. times and temperature though)
-Use a ND filter if you wan't to shoot in dailight.
-35mm film will produce much more visible grain
Delta Ilford 3200 with Rodinal, 120 film
http://pentaxforums.s3.amazonaws.com/bronica/Ilford_3200_roll_19_009_PS.jpg
Delta Ilford 3200 with Xtol, 120 film
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berraneck
Joined: 24 May 2009 Posts: 972 Location: prague, czech republic
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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berraneck wrote:
not just film but also handling it is important. I think push-proces and some acute developer should work. I won´t use delta or Tmax as they´re less grainy than classic emulsions, unless you want to shoot in bad light or have ND filters. Foma400 or Ilford Pan400 in 35mm, pushed to 800, developed in Rodinal - that should do the trick. _________________ equipment doesn´t count, good photographs do |
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David
Joined: 13 Apr 2011 Posts: 1869 Location: Denver, Colorado
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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David wrote:
Also shoot in very overcast or rainy weather. I had excessive grainyness from almost-spent D-76 one time. I had done 24+ rolls without replenishing. _________________ http://www.youtube.com/user/hancockDavidM |
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attack_donut
Joined: 06 Apr 2012 Posts: 20 Location: East Coast
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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attack_donut wrote:
Thanks for the tips. Fomapan 400 seems readily available on eBay (the local camera shops are *worthless* here) and I look forward to giving them a try. _________________ O rise up, all ye lost ones
as one, we'll claw the clouds
Rise up, the forsaken and dethroned,
a Legion wronged, to claw the clouds |
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hexi
Joined: 01 Jul 2009 Posts: 1631 Location: France
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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hexi wrote:
I highly suggest to find some expired Ilford SFX 200 film. It has more grain than a classic 400 film, i've developed only once in tetenal ultrafin, have to try with Ilfosol 3, i get 5 rolls expired by 2006. i'll push it to 400 . will get back with results _________________ Happy owner and user of :
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
The best way to get grainy negatives, from any film, is to push development by two stops. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6950 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:06 am Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
Add grain using Silver Efex plugin. This way it's less guesswork. _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:05 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
A roll of cheap C-41 colour film developed in BW chemistry will give you lots of grain:
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berraneck
Joined: 24 May 2009 Posts: 972 Location: prague, czech republic
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:48 am Post subject: |
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berraneck wrote:
@iangreenhal: I´ve noticed these photos in another thread. The grain looks quite blurry and the tonality is somewhat ugly, is that because of scanning or is it the film itself? _________________ equipment doesn´t count, good photographs do |
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:54 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
A little of both probably. If a vintage, lo-fi look is desired it can be effective.
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