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Opticus
Joined: 16 Jan 2012 Posts: 73
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 9:19 am Post subject: Pacific Optical 25mm f/1.0 - medium format lens |
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Opticus wrote:
I might be recieving one of these monsters in a few weeks for a film shoot i'm involved in. Only 3 made. one of them was completely lost.
I was told it cost a whopping 250.000$ to produce these lenses.
Weight: 20kg
Image circle: 55mm
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Arctures
Joined: 10 Jul 2009 Posts: 295
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 9:57 am Post subject: |
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Arctures wrote:
/me imaging this lens on my Nex-5n _________________ Sony A7, NEX-5n, Panasonic GH5(Oly12-40/2., Contax Distagon T* 28/2.8, Contax Planar T* 50/1.4, Contax T* 80-200/4,
Minolta Rokkor MC 58/1.2, Minolta MC Rokkor-X PF 50/1.7, Minolta MD 50/2.0, Konica Hexanon AR 50/1.8,
Konica Hexanon 57/1.4, Rokkor-PF 55/1.7, Konica Hexanon 40/1.8, Auto Yashinon 50/2.0, Canon FD 50/3.5
Voigtl�nder APO Lanthar 90/3.5 M42, Topcon RE.Topcor 58/1.8, Helios-44-2 58/2.0, Canon FD 24/2.8,
Canon FD 135/2.5 SC, Auto Topcor 135/3.5, Pentax SMC 55/1.8, Minolta 35/2.8, Minolta MD 35-70/3.5 |
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fermy
Joined: 17 Feb 2012 Posts: 1974
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 10:59 am Post subject: |
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fermy wrote:
Arctures wrote: |
/me imaging this lens on my Nex-5n |
Yeah, should be just the ticket for handheld shooting in dark bars and around the house. |
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LGH
Joined: 31 Jan 2012 Posts: 46
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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LGH wrote:
fermy wrote: |
Yeah, should be just the ticket for handheld shooting in dark bars (...) |
Try to photograph people unnoticed using that lens. People would run away screaming if you pointed it at them! _________________ Sony NEX-5N, Canon EOS 7D |
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Opticus
Joined: 16 Jan 2012 Posts: 73
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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Opticus wrote:
Arctures wrote: |
/me imaging this lens on my Nex-5n |
You'd need someone like Arnold Zwarzenegger to carry it around though, hehe. |
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ForenSeil
Joined: 15 Apr 2011 Posts: 2726 Location: Kiel, Germany.
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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ForenSeil wrote:
Wow you will need a good tripod
I would love to see some results of that lens.
Is it fisheye or a gnomonic wide angle bye the way? _________________ I'm not a collector, I'm a tester
My camera: Sony A7+Zeiss Sonnar 55/1.8
Current favourite lenses (I have many more):
A few macro-Tominons, Samyang 12/2.8, Noritsu 50.7/9.5, Rodagon 105/5.6 on bellows, Samyang 135/2, Nikon ED 180/2.8, Leitz Elmar-R 250/4, Celestron C8 2000mm F10
Most wanted: Samyang 24/1.4, Samyang 35/1.4, Nikon 200/2 ED
My Blog: http://picturechemistry.own-blog.com/
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buerokratiehasser
Joined: 12 Jun 2011 Posts: 470
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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buerokratiehasser wrote:
I can't imagine right now what these may have been (or are) good for.
The weight suggests a tripod.
If you have a tripod, you can use 1 s and don't need 1.0.
At 1.0, there is no DOF.
At 1.0, it will have something like 40 lpmm max I'd think.
There is one thing I will grant: 400 and above film sucks much more than 100 film. So it may be useful to be able to use 100 film (or Provia 400). But then, what's the point? People were going to lug this thing around to use 100 iso film and like, 1/500 s for capturing moving things? It's not even a tele (could imagine that, a monopod and a Pentacon Six).. You are seriously using MF/1.0 for moving objects? |
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Opticus
Joined: 16 Jan 2012 Posts: 73
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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Opticus wrote:
We'll be using this lens for aerial night shots using a light sensative 5x5cm ccd at 24fps.
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16634 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Congrats! PO is (was, actually) a famous lens maker that produced custom made lenses.
I have a 1200mm lens here, not as heavy and fast as this one but also 3 ever made. _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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ForenSeil
Joined: 15 Apr 2011 Posts: 2726 Location: Kiel, Germany.
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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ForenSeil wrote:
Well that's a perfect lens for that purpose
buerokratiehasser wrote: |
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At 1.0, there is no DOF.
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? 25mm f/1 the DOF is comparable thin but I guess easily handleable? Or? _________________ I'm not a collector, I'm a tester
My camera: Sony A7+Zeiss Sonnar 55/1.8
Current favourite lenses (I have many more):
A few macro-Tominons, Samyang 12/2.8, Noritsu 50.7/9.5, Rodagon 105/5.6 on bellows, Samyang 135/2, Nikon ED 180/2.8, Leitz Elmar-R 250/4, Celestron C8 2000mm F10
Most wanted: Samyang 24/1.4, Samyang 35/1.4, Nikon 200/2 ED
My Blog: http://picturechemistry.own-blog.com/
(German language)
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16634 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
For the planned used at infinity (aerial lens), the f1 and 25mm shouldn't have been an issue. _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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nixland
Joined: 30 Jan 2011 Posts: 577
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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nixland wrote:
Holly mammoth ... $250.000 ... 20kg .. !!
Let's hope Samyang will make this kind of lens! _________________ Carl Zeiss Jena: Biotar 58/2 1Q, DDR Pancolar 80/1.8 MC, Biotar 75/1.5, Biotar 10cm/2, DDR Sonnar 135/3.5 MC
Carl Zeiss C/Y: Planar 50/1.4 T*, Planar 85/1.4 T*, Planar 100/2 T*, Sonnar 135/2.8 T*
Leica: Summicron-R 35/2 v1, Summicron-R 50/2, Summilux-R 80/1.4, Summicron-R 90/2
Pentax: A 50/1.2
Minolta: Rokkor MC 58/1.2, Rokkor MC 85/1.7, Rokkor MC 100/2, MD 200/2.8
Olympus: Zuiko MC Auto-W 21/2, Zuiko 50/1.2, Zuiko MC Auto-T 85/2, Zuiko Auto-T 100/2
Nikon: Nikkor 28/2.8 Ais, Nikkor 85/1.8, Nikkor 105/1.8, 300/2.8 ED (Ais)
Canon: FD 50/1.2 L, FD 85/1.2 L
Sony: 135/2.8 STF
Jupiter: 85/2 Alu
Cyclop: 85/1.5
Meyer-Optic: Trioplan 100/2.8, Orestor 100/2.8, Primotar 135/3.5
Samyang: 8/3.5 FE, 14/2.8, 85/1.4, 85/1.4 UMC
FOR SALE
Carl Zeiss Jena Biotar 10cm/2 || Carl Zeiss ZE Distagon 28/2 || Minolta Rokkor MD 35/1.8 || Rokkor-X MC 85/1.7 || Rokkor MD 85/1.7 || Olympus Zuiko MC Auto-W 21/2 || Olympus 100/2 || Nikon Nikkor 35/1.4 || Canon: FD 55/1.2 || Vivitar 90/2.5 Series 1 VMC || Tamron: 90/2.5 SP
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buerokratiehasser
Joined: 12 Jun 2011 Posts: 470
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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buerokratiehasser wrote:
What lpmm do 35mm lenses do at 0.95 or 1.2 ? |
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Opticus
Joined: 16 Jan 2012 Posts: 73
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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Opticus wrote:
f1.0 at 25mm shouldn't cause any problems at infinity.
I'm more worried about these lenses as they won't be focused at infinity.
Optics corp 135mm F/0.7 (30kg, 64mm image circle)
Kollmorgen 153mm F/1.0 (70mm image circle)
Super Farron 87mm F/0.87 (40mm image circle)
Canon 25mm F/0.78 (c-mount?)
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buerokratiehasser
Joined: 12 Jun 2011 Posts: 470
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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buerokratiehasser wrote:
tv lens is not big deal, i got several f/1.6 and so on, pretty common, that I use as film loupes. their image circle is lets just say, substandard, you can also say TV. |
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buerokratiehasser
Joined: 12 Jun 2011 Posts: 470
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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buerokratiehasser wrote:
Also, projection lenses for these formats. Cip revuenon 1.6/17-30. The view through this one at 17mm is a few mm wide so you can check in 50 lpmm range and up. |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16634 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Nice collections of "doorstops" if you don't have a specially designed camera back with very short register for those lenses. I have a few of those too, like that Canon or Super-Farron. Don't you have the Fuji 0.7/50mm - I'm missing that in your list _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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Opticus
Joined: 16 Jan 2012 Posts: 73
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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Opticus wrote:
kds315* wrote: |
Nice collections of "doorstops" if you don't have a specially designed camera back with very short register for those lenses. I have a few of those too, like that Canon or Super-Farron. Don't you have the Fuji 0.7/50mm - I'm missing that in your list |
No KDS, i don't have the Fuji 0.7/50. Would love to get my hands on one though! What mount does it have?
buerokratiehasser wrote: |
tv lens is not big deal, i got several f/1.6 and so on, pretty common, that I use as film loupes. their image circle is lets just say, substandard, you can also say TV. |
Our 5k resolution Red Epic (APS-C) allows us to window the image down to 2K, which is big enough to cover pretty much all C-mount lenses without vignetting. It works the same as GH2's ETC mode. |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16634 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
The Fuji 0.7/50mm is a standard c-mount lens, weighs about 1 kilo. There is also the Fujinon 0.85/25mm
in that same series. Much lighter, like your Canon TV-17 _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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ForenSeil
Joined: 15 Apr 2011 Posts: 2726 Location: Kiel, Germany.
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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ForenSeil wrote:
Sorry for the maybe stupid question but why is non-infinity a problem with such a 25/1.0? _________________ I'm not a collector, I'm a tester
My camera: Sony A7+Zeiss Sonnar 55/1.8
Current favourite lenses (I have many more):
A few macro-Tominons, Samyang 12/2.8, Noritsu 50.7/9.5, Rodagon 105/5.6 on bellows, Samyang 135/2, Nikon ED 180/2.8, Leitz Elmar-R 250/4, Celestron C8 2000mm F10
Most wanted: Samyang 24/1.4, Samyang 35/1.4, Nikon 200/2 ED
My Blog: http://picturechemistry.own-blog.com/
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danfromm
Joined: 04 Sep 2011 Posts: 585
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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danfromm wrote:
ForenSeil wrote: |
Sorry for the maybe stupid question but why is non-infinity a problem with such a 25/1.0? |
PMFJI. Look at the lens. No provision for focusing. These lenses are made to be collimated to the camera body with shims.
I was at SKGrimes on Wednesday, saw a customer's 87 Super Farron. It had been mounted in a Compound #5 shutter (top speed 1/50) and had been attached to a 4x5 Graflok. Will shoot a small, soft circular image on a sheet of 4x5 film. One has to wonder what the customer has in mind to do with it. |
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