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themoleman342
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 Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 4:12 pm Post subject: M42 Lens Project |
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themoleman342 wrote:
Hey everyone. I was wondering if I could ask a favor of everyone...This week I decided to compile all information on all Russian m42 lens/m39 zenit lenses (with the exception of prototypes) into a word document. This information will range from simple specs to professional and amateur opinions. It will include everything from bad to good impressions, rumors, and applications. Now this is no simple feat and will take several months to complete but I would love to get everything together. Don’t worry I will cite sources when necessary.
So here is what I ask of everyone - If you have any obscure links pertaining to Russian m42/m39 zenit lenses than please send them along. Even if they happen to be in a different language...I will do my best to translate them.
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LucisPictor wrote:
Only Zenit lenses?
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Flor27
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Flor27 wrote:
Word document ? That's odd (until you want to keep the result private)... use a Wiki with the help of some folks to collect datas.
But I will help you as far as I can for sure.
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| Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
If you want to publish your work at mflenses.com I will give you an author access and you able to publish step by step.
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patrickh
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| Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
Why dont you try to use a dbase of some sort? It will make sorting and collating much easier down the road. The good ones will also export into a word or txt document.
patrickh
That way you can also expand easily into other manufacturers and make the project last years.... 
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Minolta SR: 28/2.8, 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 45/2, 50/2, 58/1.4, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, 200/3.5
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themoleman342
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| Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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themoleman342 wrote:
Yes only Russian m42/m39 lenses. The list is long enough for quite a bit of information. And since most of the designs are not originally Russian I can add in impressions concerning the original source possibly making way for a comparative analysis. For ex. tessar - industar 50. The word document is simply a collection source where I can paste and edit from. I'm still not sure exactly where to go from there, though the suggestions help.
I would be honored to publish something on this site Attila. I plan to make all other camera sites obsolete mwhahah...just kidding.
But what really inspired me to do this was a friend from the zenit camera forum. He is the administrator and probably the one person that truly got me into Russian photography. His site was a continual resource to me and with his guidance I actually took apart my zenit B and my collection has simply sky rocketed in size. He has recently fallen on hard times and is now selling most of his equipment off. Though the site will still be up...most of it will be stripped and the zenit camera forum might not be as strong as it once was. So knowing this I would hate to see someone pass over these great lenses because the information was simply unavailable to them. That’s why I plan to do the most thorough and thoughtful job that is possible. Even great books such as Princelle’s don’t offer opinions and I have never really seen a comprehensive take on any of them – only bits a pieces. So all I want is to combine those pieces.
Thanks
~Marc
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
Let me know if I can help.
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Flor27
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Flor27 wrote:
Wiki is the key my friend !
A wiki is software that allows users to create, edit, and link web pages easily. Wikis are often used to create collaborative websites and to power community websites. They are being installed by businesses to provide affordable and effective Intranets and for Knowledge Management. Ward Cunningham, developer of the first wiki, WikiWikiWeb, originally described it as "the simplest online database that could possibly work". One of the best known wikis is Wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
and editors will remove or rewrite your job. No thanks!
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ChrisLilley
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ChrisLilley wrote:
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| and editors will remove or rewrite your job. No thanks! |
wiki is a technology to allow many people to collaborate on writing a document. The rules and access control for collaboration are not constrained there.
wikipedia is one project to make an encyclopedia, with specific rules and conventions. It uses wiki technology.
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Orio wrote:
Thanks Chris for the clarification. I was not aware of the difference. So, everyone could -for instance- use wiki to make his own encyclopaedias - of lenses, of cameras, etc?
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ChrisLilley wrote:
| Orio wrote: |
| Thanks Chris for the clarification. I was not aware of the difference. So, everyone could -for instance- use wiki to make his own encyclopaedias - of lenses, of cameras, etc? |
Yes, anyone who has a web server on which they can install software can make a wiki. And it can be used for anything - notes, meeting planning, whatever. I use several wikis at work for that sort of thing. An encyclopaedia is just one of the things you can do with it.
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Flor27
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| Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:33 am Post subject: |
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Flor27 wrote:
| Attila wrote: |
| and editors will remove or rewrite your job. No thanks! |
If you are the wiki master, you can put access control (who can read, who can write, who can edit); thus, most wiki engines keep history of all modification, so you can do rollback at anytime 
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Flor27
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| Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:40 am Post subject: |
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Flor27 wrote:
| Orio wrote: |
| Thanks Chris for the clarification. I was not aware of the difference. So, everyone could -for instance- use wiki to make his own encyclopaedias - of lenses, of cameras, etc? |
Actually there is at least - known by me - two wikis dedicated to lenses and cameras :
http://www.camerapedia.org/wiki/
http://www.cdegroot.com/cgi-bin/photowiki/
So I don't think it's revelant to create a new one if what Marc wants to do can fit in one of it: just create and edit new pages on thoses wiki, don't waste knowloedge in too many places on the web
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montecarlo
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| Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:53 am Post subject: |
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montecarlo wrote:
I think you saw this http://forum.mflenses.com/russian-lenses-and-cameras-t2801.html
especially these two:
http://zenit.istra.ru/catalog/lenseslist.html
http://www.photohistory.ru/35mm-TeleLens.html (russian - can be used the google translation on this , but the translation will be far from correct).
Good luck .
Cosmin.
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montecarlo
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| Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:07 am Post subject: |
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montecarlo wrote:
Just looking on these links I encountered:
MC "Fodis-1K", 1,8/135, KMZ (K Pentax)
МС "Оберон-11", 2,8 / 200, VOMZ (K Pentax)
"Таir-56", 2,8 / 150, KMZ (M42)
МС "Teleagoir", 2,8 / 200 (M42)
МС "Telezenitar-М", 2,8 / 135 (M42)
МС "APO Telezenitar-М", 2,8 / 135 (M42)
MC "Yashma-4", 2,8/300, Arsenal (F Nikon) - Hey, Richard, here is one for you
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Pentax MX, ME Super, Chinon CE4/CM4, Petri MC 28mm f:2, smc Pentax-M 50mm f:1.7, Soligor T 135mm f:2.8
Minolta X500, Tokina 28/2.8, Rokkor 50/1.7, 80-205/4.5
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montecarlo
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| Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:14 am Post subject: |
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montecarlo wrote:
Sorry, forgot the links for the last lens:
http://www.photohistory.ru/Pictures/Lens-Yashma-4N-zad.jpg
http://www.photohistory.ru/Pictures/Lens-Yashma-4N.jpg
http://www.photohistory.ru/Pictures/Lens-Yashma-4N-compl.jpg
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Zenit E , Helios-44 58mm f:2.0 , Tair-11A 135mm f:2.8, Jupiter-9 85mm f:2.0,
Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 35mm f:2.4
Pentax MX, ME Super, Chinon CE4/CM4, Petri MC 28mm f:2, smc Pentax-M 50mm f:1.7, Soligor T 135mm f:2.8
Minolta X500, Tokina 28/2.8, Rokkor 50/1.7, 80-205/4.5
Nikon D90, Nikkor 35/2.0, Nikkor 50/1.8, Sigma 24/2.8, Nikkor 18-105 VR |
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Attila
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| Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
| Flor27 wrote: |
| Attila wrote: |
| and editors will remove or rewrite your job. No thanks! |
If you are the wiki master, you can put access control (who can read, who can write, who can edit); thus, most wiki engines keep history of all modification, so you can do rollback at anytime |
I am tired about this game I did many times. my time and work more valuable than fix always what jealous wiki administrators removed.
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