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kuuan
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 Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:53 am Post subject: AF + MF Pentax body? |
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kuuan wrote:
Are the AF Pentax SLRs also well equipped for MF?
Do they also come with a e.g. split focus screen?
which is your favorite AF Pentax SLR for both AF and MF, and why?
thank you very much,
cheers,
Andreas
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Spotmatic
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Spotmatic wrote:
Andreas, the AF slr's have a screen that's just as worse as our stock DSLR screens, and none of them comes with a split focus screen by default. At least none that I know of and I have owned several AF SLR's.
If I would choose a Pentax AF SLR then it would be these (in order of desirability):
- MZ-S
- MZ-3
- MZ-5(n)
Maybe also the Z-1(p) but I've already had two that were broken (usually the battery compartment cover breaks).
The MZ-S and the MZ-3 are both fairly rare. The MZ-5 and MZ-3 have very easy to use controls (shutter knob with "A" setting and metering mode like on our DSLR's). The MZ-S is undoubtedly the best 35mm SLR Pentax ever produced (I'd like this with a digital back  ) and it can even be used in Hyper Manual.
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kuuan
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| Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:55 am Post subject: |
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kuuan wrote:
thank you very much for your prompt reply Peter!
the MZ-S really is something!
only leaves 2 more questions:
- do you know if one can exchange the focus screen on any of them?
- why is the MZ-3 more desirable than the MZ-5?
thank you so much,
Andreas
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ellepi
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ellepi wrote:
You can change the focus screen only on MZ-S.
I can suggest you also: Z-1, Z-1p and SFX. All of them with interchangeable focus screen.
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kuuan
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kuuan wrote:
thank you very much ellepi, great to know!
btw. if anybody wonders, the MZ-3 or MZ-5 weigh 410 grms. the ZPs 650 grms and the SFX 665 grms, a reason why I personally will prefer the MZ over the earlier ZP and SF camera
best regards,
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Spotmatic
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Spotmatic wrote:
FYI: the screens in the MZ-5 and MZ-3 can be changed too.
Regarding the differences between the MZ-5 and MZ-3: the former has 1/2000s top shutter speed and 1/100s X sync, the MZ-3 1/4000s and 1/125s. The AF of the MZ-3 is better. And both of course have the "proper" mount so full metering with any K-mount lens.
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kuuan
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kuuan wrote:
nice..thank you very much Peter for coming back to clarify further!
The MZ-S is an amazing camera, but would cost me minimum 5 times as much and it is bulkier and heavier. I'll look out for a MZ-3!
best regards,
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| Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:23 am Post subject: Re: AF + MF Pentax body? |
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Kamerer wrote:
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which is your favorite AF Pentax SLR for both AF and MF, and why?
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Pentax ME-F = AF+MF + Viewfinder Magnification 0.95 x + split focus screen 
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kuuan
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| Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:46 pm Post subject: Re: AF + MF Pentax body? |
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kuuan wrote:
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which is your favorite AF Pentax SLR for both AF and MF, and why?
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Pentax ME-F = AF+MF + Viewfinder Magnification 0.95 x + split focus screen |
thank you for your kind input, but according to: http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/bodies/film_M/ME_F.html:
'AF possible only with the AF 35-70/2.8 lens'
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Nesster wrote:
I don't know much about these, the ZX-L (AKA MZ-6) is one that I have and it works pretty nicely. The controls are different and more cumbersome (for some operations) than with the dslrs, and who knows, the vf might not be the biggest/brightest and lacks a decent focusing screen. Personally, I'm not about to look for something 'better'
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stingOM wrote:
Going off topic here, but probably the best AF + MF camera body is Contax AX
http://photo.net/equipment/contax/ax |
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Kamerer
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Kamerer wrote:
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Going off topic here, but probably the best AF + MF camera body is Contax AX
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magnification 0.7x
http://www.cameramanuals.org/contax/contax_ax-3.pdf
AF Pentax SF7/10 - Magnification 0.82x
http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/bodies/film_SF/SF710.html
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Kamerer
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| Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:51 am Post subject: Re: AF + MF Pentax body? |
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Kamerer wrote:
| kuuan wrote: |
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which is your favorite AF Pentax SLR for both AF and MF, and why?
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Pentax ME-F = AF+MF + Viewfinder Magnification 0.95 x + split focus screen |
thank you for your kind input, but according to: http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/bodies/film_M/ME_F.html:
'AF possible only with the AF 35-70/2.8 lens' |
good lens
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| Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:48 am Post subject: Re: AF + MF Pentax body? |
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womble wrote:
| Kamerer wrote: |
| kuuan wrote: |
| Kamerer wrote: |
| kuuan wrote: |
which is your favorite AF Pentax SLR for both AF and MF, and why?
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Pentax ME-F = AF+MF + Viewfinder Magnification 0.95 x + split focus screen |
thank you for your kind input, but according to: http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/bodies/film_M/ME_F.html:
'AF possible only with the AF 35-70/2.8 lens' |
good lens |
Optically, yes (and incidentally Pentax's fastest 35-70mm lens) but the AF mechanism is unreliable and most are broken and unrepairable (due to lack of spares). Mine is jammed solid and so one cannot even manually focus it.
K.
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