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IAZA
Joined: 16 Apr 2010 Posts: 2587 Location: Indonesia
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Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 10:40 am Post subject: look what I got today, 57/1,2 sample added |
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IAZA wrote:
I visited my friend, he show me this lens. glass has little fungus but no fog or haze, body excellent.
Too bad it doesn't has mount. the owner open the mount then he forgot where is it now.
I'm offered to take this lens. How much should I pay? and if the mount is missing, any chance to adapt?
here's the shot when I tried on NEX, hold by hand, no mount
Attila really should be blame for this konica fever
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 10:56 am Post subject: Re: look what I got today |
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LucisPictor wrote:
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Too bad it doesn't has mount. the owner open the mount then he forgot where is it now.
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What? That is stupid, isn't it? With such a lens?? _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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IAZA
Joined: 16 Apr 2010 Posts: 2587 Location: Indonesia
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Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 11:11 am Post subject: |
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IAZA wrote:
it happened long time ago, before mirrorless cam appear. he tried to converted in EOS, but then he realized it won't achive infinity.
He opened many lenses. I even laughed when he showed me various mount to match this lens, he still looking for the mount now... (yeah stupid for him, but it will be bargain price for me ) _________________ nex5, Olympus EPM1, yashica half 14, Canon eos 650 want to see samples of mine? please click My lenses
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hoanpham
Joined: 31 Jan 2011 Posts: 2575
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Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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hoanpham wrote:
congrats.
any mount? use a mount from a tube or a defect TC, and drill some new holes?
original is better of course. _________________ La migliore cura di LBA � imparare una nuova lingua. Le meilleur rem�de de LBA est d'apprendre une nouvelle langue. La mejor cura del LBA es aprender una nueva lengua. |
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
I don't know how expensive or rare is the lens and if it's common or not.
But let's imagine it's a rare lens and quite expensive: I would surely buy it
and have a lab add a common mount such as M42 that can be adapted
to almost any camera.
Of course the lens will have to be collimated to infinity for the new mount.
If you do that, you might be able to fetch a good price from your friend,
due to missing mount, and after lab has added new mount, you can have
a precious lens that you can also resell easily because M42 would be much
more marketable than Konica bayonnette. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Pancolart
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 3704 Location: Slovenia, EU
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Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
Up to 150 EUR it's bargain. _________________ ---------------------------------
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std
Joined: 09 Feb 2010 Posts: 1826 Location: Bulgaria
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Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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std wrote:
Should not be very expensive to have the mount replaced.
So if your price is right ... you can send it to me and can send it back when it is ready. _________________ Stefan
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Lens value in Mint condition around 400-500 USD and pretty hard to find it. Nice example why not to convert , bucher lenses. Damn it how many people want to have this lens, sad to see this mount less one. _________________ -------------------------------
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F16SUNSHINE
Joined: 20 Aug 2007 Posts: 5486 Location: Left Coast
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Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 4:36 pm Post subject: Re: look what I got today |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
IAZA wrote: |
I visited my friend, he show me this lens. glass has little fungus but no fog or haze, body excellent.
Too bad it doesn't has mount. the owner open the mount then he forgot where is it now.
I'm offered to take this lens. How much should I pay? and if the mount is missing, any chance to adapt?
here's the shot when I tried on NEX, hold by hand, no mount
Attila really should be blame for this konica fever
ohh.. Thanks for any comment/suggestion |
It's a great lens and worth some effort to make usable again.
Konica offered a 60mm f1.2 LTM lens that some suppose was the evolution of this lens.
The 60 1.2 is is very, very expensive and rare and an amazing 1/2 performer and.
1. At wide open it is low in contrast yet still sharp on focus with dreamy atmosphere and nice bokeh.
2. Stopped down he performs very much like a modern DG. Sharp, High contrast and great resolution.
You will find the same performance from this Konica 57mm.
I hope you get it up and going. One idea may be to have it converted to LTM with a follower cam.
There are a few guys doing this now with Nikkor f1.2 lenses.
You can then use the lens on a Rangefinder full frame (full frame is where you will really have the full character of this lens).
Also you could use it on Mirrorless cameras.
Best of luck! |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I think an expert can adopt it at least to NEX, I have same lens, rare valuable , don't pay much for it due it will not kept value due conversion. I rate it to same level than Nikon 1.2 AIS. _________________ -------------------------------
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IAZA
Joined: 16 Apr 2010 Posts: 2587 Location: Indonesia
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:17 am Post subject: |
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IAZA wrote:
Good news everyone
my friend found the mount. it went to repairman now. Thanks Stefan for offering, but we have good repairman too here _________________ nex5, Olympus EPM1, yashica half 14, Canon eos 650 want to see samples of mine? please click My lenses
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ZoneV
Joined: 09 Nov 2009 Posts: 1632 Location: Germany
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:28 am Post subject: |
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ZoneV wrote:
Such a lens without mount is ideal for conversion, because it is no longer a collector item.
I think USD 150 would be a great price. Probably even more. I think it would be hard to sell such a lens with fungus and without mount for more than USD 200 at ebay.THere are not many tinkerer that search such a lens in this condition.
Read you news with the found mount: That could make the lense more expensive. _________________ Camera modification, repair and DIY - some links to look through: http://www.4photos.de/camera-diy/index-en.html
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3666 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
Good to hear he found the mount, when she is put back together she'll be a fun lens for sure. |
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IAZA
Joined: 16 Apr 2010 Posts: 2587 Location: Indonesia
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Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:39 am Post subject: |
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IAZA wrote:
lens is back.
some samples taken few hours ago
wideopen
F2
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RTI
Joined: 15 Jul 2011 Posts: 282 Location: Moldova, Chisinau
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Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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RTI wrote:
IAZA wrote: |
lens is back.
some samples taken few hours ago
wideopen
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Though it's a bit soft wideopen, bokeh looks very smooth, I like the 1st one
I wonder how the lens compares to other F1.2 of its era, like the rokkor 58mm/1.2, FL canons _________________ Cameras: Canon 5DIII, Zorki-4, Canon AE-1
MF:Rokkor 58/1.2, Rokkor MC 58/1.4, Yashica ML 50/1.7, M39 Jupiter-9 (silver 1955), Zuiko 35-70/3.6
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Kathmandu
Joined: 09 Dec 2009 Posts: 1479 Location: (Kathmandu,Nepal. Currently)Pacific Northwest, USA
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Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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Kathmandu wrote:
Can you post some pictures of the lens? Thats a beautiful lens congrats. _________________ kathmandu
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
RTI wrote: |
IAZA wrote: |
lens is back.
some samples taken few hours ago
wideopen
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Though it's a bit soft wideopen, bokeh looks very smooth, I like the 1st one
I wonder how the lens compares to other F1.2 of its era, like the rokkor 58mm/1.2, FL canons |
I have Nikon, Pentax and Konica 1.2.
Pentax is sharp at every aperture, sharpest from all, Konica , Nikon pretty much same acceptable sharp at 1.2 and both have better bokeh than Pentax. _________________ -------------------------------
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3666 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 3:16 am Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
Nice bold colors, no saturation boost? I wonder if the 57/1.4 has a similar color pallet? |
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RTI
Joined: 15 Jul 2011 Posts: 282 Location: Moldova, Chisinau
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Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 6:45 am Post subject: |
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RTI wrote:
Attila wrote: |
RTI wrote: |
IAZA wrote: |
lens is back.
some samples taken few hours ago
wideopen
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Though it's a bit soft wideopen, bokeh looks very smooth, I like the 1st one
I wonder how the lens compares to other F1.2 of its era, like the rokkor 58mm/1.2, FL canons |
I have Nikon, Pentax and Konica 1.2.
Pentax is sharp at every aperture, sharpest from all, Konica , Nikon pretty much same acceptable sharp at 1.2 and both have better bokeh than Pentax. |
Thank you Attila, still Rokkor 58/1.2 remains the most attracting to my eye from all the F1.2 lenses I've seen in the 50-58mm (SLR) range
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Nice bold colors, no saturation boost? I wonder if the 57/1.4 has a similar color pallet? |
Judging by samples I've seen from 57/1.4, it's quite soft wide open, lacks contrast too; and btw I doubt there was no PP applied to the samples here, not that it's bad in anyway _________________ Cameras: Canon 5DIII, Zorki-4, Canon AE-1
MF:Rokkor 58/1.2, Rokkor MC 58/1.4, Yashica ML 50/1.7, M39 Jupiter-9 (silver 1955), Zuiko 35-70/3.6
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IAZA
Joined: 16 Apr 2010 Posts: 2587 Location: Indonesia
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Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:33 am Post subject: |
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IAZA wrote:
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Lightshow wrote:
Nice bold colors, no saturation boost? I wonder if the 57/1.4 has a similar color pallet?
Judging by samples I've seen from 57/1.4, it's quite soft wide open, lacks contrast too; and btw I doubt there was no PP applied to the samples here, not that it's bad in anyway |
I dont remember how many time I have to explain, no PP in my pict unless I mentioned. if PP include crop & resize, Yess.
Maybe It's Sony NEX vivid mode that boost the color. every NEX owner know that.
I'll give you original file if interested 4,18 MB size
This is the lens Kath
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RTI
Joined: 15 Jul 2011 Posts: 282 Location: Moldova, Chisinau
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Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:30 am Post subject: |
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RTI wrote:
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Maybe It's Sony NEX vivid mode that boost the color. every NEX owner know that.
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That tells it , I've tried that feature on my nex-5 only once, since I shoot .raw mostly - boosts both contrast and saturation a lot, well it's a matter of taste, but I found the result being not really close to real colors _________________ Cameras: Canon 5DIII, Zorki-4, Canon AE-1
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IAZA
Joined: 16 Apr 2010 Posts: 2587 Location: Indonesia
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Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:16 am Post subject: |
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IAZA wrote:
I never shot in Raw with NEX.
here's portrait mode with this lens, no PP
In my opinion the difference isn't much, 'coz I set contrast & saturation in vivid mode lower
wait a minute.. Do you refer to leaf picture? That's not real leaf, plastic leaf and that's real color _________________ nex5, Olympus EPM1, yashica half 14, Canon eos 650 want to see samples of mine? please click My lenses
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imperian
Joined: 17 Nov 2011 Posts: 60 Location: Malaysia
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Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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imperian wrote:
Orio wrote: |
I don't know how expensive or rare is the lens and if it's common or not.
But let's imagine it's a rare lens and quite expensive: I would surely buy it
and have a lab add a common mount such as M42 that can be adapted
to almost any camera.
Of course the lens will have to be collimated to infinity for the new mount.
If you do that, you might be able to fetch a good price from your friend,
due to missing mount, and after lab has added new mount, you can have
a precious lens that you can also resell easily because M42 would be much
more marketable than Konica bayonnette. |
Any possibility to get an adapter to mount on 5D without modifying the bayonet? This lens looks awesome but I am looking over something that can easily adapt to my camera? _________________ 5D Classic | 17-40L | 50L | Zeiss T* 1.4/85
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DSG
Joined: 04 Mar 2007 Posts: 544 Location: London, UK.
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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 1:04 am Post subject: |
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DSG wrote:
RTI wrote: |
IAZA wrote: |
lens is back.
some samples taken few hours ago
wideopen
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Though it's a bit soft wideopen, bokeh looks very smooth, I like the 1st one
I wonder how the lens compares to other F1.2 of its era, like the rokkor 58mm/1.2, FL canons |
The Hexanon AR is a 1970's vintage lens...The Canon FLs (58mm f1.2 and later 55mm f1.2)are 1960's vintage lenses. |
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DSG
Joined: 04 Mar 2007 Posts: 544 Location: London, UK.
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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 1:15 am Post subject: |
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DSG wrote:
imperian wrote: |
Orio wrote: |
I don't know how expensive or rare is the lens and if it's common or not.
But let's imagine it's a rare lens and quite expensive: I would surely buy it
and have a lab add a common mount such as M42 that can be adapted
to almost any camera.
Of course the lens will have to be collimated to infinity for the new mount.
If you do that, you might be able to fetch a good price from your friend,
due to missing mount, and after lab has added new mount, you can have
a precious lens that you can also resell easily because M42 would be much
more marketable than Konica bayonnette. |
Any possibility to get an adapter to mount on 5D without modifying the bayonet? This lens looks awesome but I am looking over something that can easily adapt to my camera? |
Then forget the Hexanon!...It has a relatively short registration distance of just 40.7mm but Canon EF is 44mm. 3.3mm is a hell of lot of material to remove from the back of a lens to allow it to reach infinity on the EF mount and besides the design of the lens may make that an impossible task anyway. Basically, unless you use some kind of optical adapter you could never reach infinity with it on the EF mount and in practice it could only be used for macro shots only. |
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