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Nordentro
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 Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 6:46 pm Post subject: Helios 40 - first Bokeh Stitch (panorama) |
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Nordentro wrote:
Testing bokeh stitching 
(Nine images)
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Works! I like it!
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
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| Works! I like it! |
Thx, and my other car 
(also nine pictures)
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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ilguercio wrote:
Did you have any particular trouble while stitching the frames together? |
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Nordentro
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
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| Did you have any particular trouble while stitching the frames together? |
Yes I have some trouble.
Smaller groups are easier, but 20+ pictures is difficult and I get errors...
Tobias, plz help 
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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shyl wrote:
Nice 3D pop ! |
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ilguercio
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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ilguercio wrote:
| Nordentro wrote: |
| ilguercio wrote: |
| Did you have any particular trouble while stitching the frames together? |
Yes I have some trouble.
Smaller groups are easier, but 20+ pictures is difficult and I get errors...
Tobias, plz help |
Me too, i noticed that wider focal lenghts are worse because they leave tons of ghosting which is complicated to solve.
I did a stupid pano this morning and i got 30/31 frames nicely aligned, the last one looks like i moved the camera but i was on tripod and the following images were stitched perfectly so i really don't know what's wrong sometimes. |
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Nordentro
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
Yes it's learning by doing, I'm starting to figure out what software I like
Here's a 18 picture stitch
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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What software are you using?
Do you get the same errors with the same images among different softwares? |
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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pich900 wrote:
That last one is stunning, I love the rendering.....you becomes a serious concurrent for "Mister king of bokeh's pano" alias Thobias
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patrickh wrote:
Very cool
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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SonicScot wrote:
| Nordentro wrote: |
Yes it's learning by doing, I'm starting to figure out what software I like
Here's a 18 picture stitch
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That's excellent and I love the hint of tilt/shift too.
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Nordentro
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
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What software are you using?
Do you get the same errors with the same images among different softwares? |
Some software are really picky, and I choose the Helios 40 because of it's difficult (sometimes swirly) bokeh to test software
Some errors are the same and some not in different software.
I have tested:
- Photomerge in Photoshop
- ArcSoft Panorama Maker
- Hugin (open source), advanced stuff
- Autodesk Stitcher (the maker of famous software as Autocad, Maya, 3d studio Max etc.)
- Autostitch
All of them have their qualities, but I would rate them like this (with bokeh panos) after a very short testing period:
1. Autostitch: Easy, and you always seems to get a something back. My favorite so far.
2. Hugin (open source), nice application and you can do a lot of tweaking but it sometimes struggles with the stitching and you must go to manual mode. Manual mode is very neat but time consuming.
3. Autodesk Stitcher: Quality maker of software, neat layout and good blending. But it's eating memory and my machine hangs and the program shuts down very often.
4. Photomerge in photoshop: works ok with pictures with dept of field, but struggles with bokeh panos.
5. ArcSoft: Have Nvidia Cuda support, but application crashed when turned on. Results look really wierd on the tests I did
cheers
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
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| That last one is stunning, I love the rendering.....you becomes a serious concurrent for "Mister king of bokeh's pano" alias Thobias |
Tobias will always be the master
(I'm just enjoying his guides)
Another Helios 40 stitch (14 images)
Hmm, missing a part on this one
And another (boring image) test with 22 images
This was difficult, I had to clone back missing stuff.
I'll ask my wife if she can be my bokeh pano modell to see how it works.
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| Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 5:48 am Post subject: |
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pich900 wrote:
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I'll ask my wife if she can be my bokeh pano modell to see how it works.
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Oh yessssssssssss, a bokeh pano from the MF lenses favorite model ......
Nice work!
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| Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 6:50 am Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
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| Nordentro wrote: |
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I'll ask my wife if she can be my bokeh pano modell to see how it works.
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Oh yessssssssssss, a bokeh pano from the MF lenses favorite model ......
Nice work! |
Thx
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aspen wrote:
| pich900 wrote: |
| Nordentro wrote: |
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I'll ask my wife if she can be my bokeh pano modell to see how it works.
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Oh yessssssssssss, a bokeh pano from the MF lenses favorite model ......
Nice work! |
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| Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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Gerris2 wrote:
I am newbie, and have not seen your wife. My interest is now highly piqued. Hahaha (it's true tho hahaha).
When you take your panoramic image series, do you primarily go from one side of the scene to the other side, in a horizontal line? Or do you take images in a vertical fashion? Or do you combine both ways of taking the photos? I have only stitched photos using the free Microsoft product called I think ICE and used the horizontal series technique.
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Lloydy wrote:
ICE will do multiple layer stitches as well. I've done a few with decent results.
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| Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
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I am newbie, and have not seen your wife. My interest is now highly piqued. Hahaha (it's true tho hahaha).
When you take your panoramic image series, do you primarily go from one side of the scene to the other side, in a horizontal line? Or do you take images in a vertical fashion? Or do you combine both ways of taking the photos? I have only stitched photos using the free Microsoft product called I think ICE and used the horizontal series technique. |
I stitch both ways in the same photo like a chessboard or grid. I take photos different every time, pretty straight forward as long as the scene does not contain moving objects...
My wife yes... jummy
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nixland wrote:
Very cool pano there. Keep posting 
By the way how did you deal with vignetting? Do you remove it using lens correction on Photoshop or just crop the vignetting part of each shots and then stitch them?
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