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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4713 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 6:46 pm Post subject: Helios 40 - first Bokeh Stitch (panorama) |
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Nordentro wrote:
Testing bokeh stitching
(Nine images)
_________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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Attila
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Works! I like it! _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4713 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
Attila wrote: |
Works! I like it! |
Thx, and my other car
(also nine pictures)
_________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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ilguercio
Joined: 08 Mar 2012 Posts: 414 Location: Southern Italy-Calabria!
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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ilguercio wrote:
Did you have any particular trouble while stitching the frames together? |
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4713 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
ilguercio wrote: |
Did you have any particular trouble while stitching the frames together? |
Yes I have some trouble.
Smaller groups are easier, but 20+ pictures is difficult and I get errors...
Tobias, plz help _________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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shyl
Joined: 22 Jul 2011 Posts: 27
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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shyl wrote:
Nice 3D pop ! |
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ilguercio
Joined: 08 Mar 2012 Posts: 414 Location: Southern Italy-Calabria!
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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ilguercio wrote:
Nordentro wrote: |
ilguercio wrote: |
Did you have any particular trouble while stitching the frames together? |
Yes I have some trouble.
Smaller groups are easier, but 20+ pictures is difficult and I get errors...
Tobias, plz help |
Me too, i noticed that wider focal lenghts are worse because they leave tons of ghosting which is complicated to solve.
I did a stupid pano this morning and i got 30/31 frames nicely aligned, the last one looks like i moved the camera but i was on tripod and the following images were stitched perfectly so i really don't know what's wrong sometimes. |
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4713 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
Yes it's learning by doing, I'm starting to figure out what software I like
Here's a 18 picture stitch
_________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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ilguercio
Joined: 08 Mar 2012 Posts: 414 Location: Southern Italy-Calabria!
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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ilguercio wrote:
What software are you using?
Do you get the same errors with the same images among different softwares? |
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pich900
Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 1745 Location: The Netherlands/Zwolle
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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pich900 wrote:
That last one is stunning, I love the rendering.....you becomes a serious concurrent for "Mister king of bokeh's pano" alias Thobias _________________ All my lenses are for sale, nikkor, Angenieux, Zeiss etc.....
Regards,
Pascal
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patrickh
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
Very cool
patrickh _________________ DSLR: Nikon D300 Nikon D200 Nex 5N
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SonicScot
Joined: 01 Dec 2011 Posts: 2697 Location: Scottish Highlands
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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SonicScot wrote:
Nordentro wrote: |
Yes it's learning by doing, I'm starting to figure out what software I like
Here's a 18 picture stitch
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That's excellent and I love the hint of tilt/shift too. _________________ Gary
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Sony a7
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Carl Zeiss.... 180/2.8, 135/3.5, 85/1.4, 35/2.4 Flektagon, 21/2.8 Distagon
Nikon.... 55/3.5 micro, 50/1.2
Elicar 90/2.5 V-HQ Macro
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4713 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
ilguercio wrote: |
What software are you using?
Do you get the same errors with the same images among different softwares? |
Some software are really picky, and I choose the Helios 40 because of it's difficult (sometimes swirly) bokeh to test software
Some errors are the same and some not in different software.
I have tested:
- Photomerge in Photoshop
- ArcSoft Panorama Maker
- Hugin (open source), advanced stuff
- Autodesk Stitcher (the maker of famous software as Autocad, Maya, 3d studio Max etc.)
- Autostitch
All of them have their qualities, but I would rate them like this (with bokeh panos) after a very short testing period:
1. Autostitch: Easy, and you always seems to get a something back. My favorite so far.
2. Hugin (open source), nice application and you can do a lot of tweaking but it sometimes struggles with the stitching and you must go to manual mode. Manual mode is very neat but time consuming.
3. Autodesk Stitcher: Quality maker of software, neat layout and good blending. But it's eating memory and my machine hangs and the program shuts down very often.
4. Photomerge in photoshop: works ok with pictures with dept of field, but struggles with bokeh panos.
5. ArcSoft: Have Nvidia Cuda support, but application crashed when turned on. Results look really wierd on the tests I did
cheers
Lars _________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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Nordentro
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
pich900 wrote: |
That last one is stunning, I love the rendering.....you becomes a serious concurrent for "Mister king of bokeh's pano" alias Thobias |
Tobias will always be the master
(I'm just enjoying his guides)
Another Helios 40 stitch (14 images)
Hmm, missing a part on this one
And another (boring image) test with 22 images
This was difficult, I had to clone back missing stuff.
I'll ask my wife if she can be my bokeh pano modell to see how it works.
_________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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pich900
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 5:48 am Post subject: |
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pich900 wrote:
Nordentro wrote: |
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I'll ask my wife if she can be my bokeh pano modell to see how it works.
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Oh yessssssssssss, a bokeh pano from the MF lenses favorite model ......
Nice work! _________________ All my lenses are for sale, nikkor, Angenieux, Zeiss etc.....
Regards,
Pascal
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Nordentro
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 6:50 am Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
pich900 wrote: |
Nordentro wrote: |
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I'll ask my wife if she can be my bokeh pano modell to see how it works.
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Oh yessssssssssss, a bokeh pano from the MF lenses favorite model ......
Nice work! |
Thx _________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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aspen
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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aspen wrote:
pich900 wrote: |
Nordentro wrote: |
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I'll ask my wife if she can be my bokeh pano modell to see how it works.
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Oh yessssssssssss, a bokeh pano from the MF lenses favorite model ......
Nice work! |
_________________ Cameras; Sony Nex5n Lenses; Konica Hexanons; 21mm f2.8, 40mm f1,8, 50mm f1.4, 50mmf1.7,57mm f1.4, 100mm f2.8, 135mm f3.2, 200mm f4, MC Helios 77M-4 50mm f1.8, Jupiter 8 50 f2, Super Takumar 85mm f1.9, Vivitar Series 1 90mm f2.5 (Macro), Steinheil Munchen Culminar 85mm f2.8, Steinheil Munchen Exagon 35mm f2.8, Jupiter 37A 135mm, Astra Berlin 135mm f3.5, Angenieux 180mm f4 , Tair 3-PhS 300mm f4.5 |
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Gerris2
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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Gerris2 wrote:
I am newbie, and have not seen your wife. My interest is now highly piqued. Hahaha (it's true tho hahaha).
When you take your panoramic image series, do you primarily go from one side of the scene to the other side, in a horizontal line? Or do you take images in a vertical fashion? Or do you combine both ways of taking the photos? I have only stitched photos using the free Microsoft product called I think ICE and used the horizontal series technique. _________________ Joseph |
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Lloydy
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
ICE will do multiple layer stitches as well. I've done a few with decent results. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
I have loads of stuff that I have to get rid of, if you see me commenting about something I have got and you want one, ask me.
My Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/mudplugga/
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http://www.ipernity.com/home/294337 |
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4713 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
Gerris2 wrote: |
I am newbie, and have not seen your wife. My interest is now highly piqued. Hahaha (it's true tho hahaha).
When you take your panoramic image series, do you primarily go from one side of the scene to the other side, in a horizontal line? Or do you take images in a vertical fashion? Or do you combine both ways of taking the photos? I have only stitched photos using the free Microsoft product called I think ICE and used the horizontal series technique. |
I stitch both ways in the same photo like a chessboard or grid. I take photos different every time, pretty straight forward as long as the scene does not contain moving objects...
My wife yes... jummy _________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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nixland
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 9:44 am Post subject: |
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nixland wrote:
Very cool pano there. Keep posting
By the way how did you deal with vignetting? Do you remove it using lens correction on Photoshop or just crop the vignetting part of each shots and then stitch them? _________________ Carl Zeiss Jena: Biotar 58/2 1Q, DDR Pancolar 80/1.8 MC, Biotar 75/1.5, Biotar 10cm/2, DDR Sonnar 135/3.5 MC
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