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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 7:48 pm    Post subject: KIEV 4M Reply with quote
Ok,

last one for today here a KIEV 4M, manufactured around 1980. So not too old. Remarkable is only that someone changed the standard lens Helios 103 1.8/53 into this one Jupiter-8M 1.2/50mm. If I understand the syntax correct it was manufactured 1957. After a first check aperture and shutter speed are ok. Paid 5 € for the combo, so a nice paperweight for this money.

Here a pic after cleaning the cam.



Wink


PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Lens is very rare at least to me, first 8M with Red P mark what I seen , I am green from envy!

I have this camera also, light meter is accurate as well. Lovely camera ! I am not sure you familiar with Russian RF cameras, always knock shutter before change speeds, other ways easy to kill them ...


PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
That's an excellent camera if it is in working condition, and +1 on what Attila says about that lens. Matter of fact it's the same vintage as the J-12 I recently bought (as well as my own vintage Very Happy)


PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Attila wrote:
Lens is very rare at least to me, first 8M with Red P mark what I seen , I am green from envy!

I have this camera also, light meter is accurate as well. Lovely camera ! I am not sure you familiar with Russian RF cameras, always knock shutter before change speeds, other ways easy to kill them ...


No Attilar, I´m not familiar with Russian RF cams, never used it before. In the meantime I have had a look in the forum concerning Kiev and Zorki. Seems to be an interesting subject area. So you think I shouldn´t use this cam as a paperweight ? What is so special with RED P mark ?
Special coating ?

Wink


PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rolf wrote:
Attila wrote:
Lens is very rare at least to me, first 8M with Red P mark what I seen , I am green from envy!

I have this camera also, light meter is accurate as well. Lovely camera ! I am not sure you familiar with Russian RF cameras, always knock shutter before change speeds, other ways easy to kill them ...


No Attilar, I´m not familiar with Russian RF cams, never used it before. In the meantime I have had a look in the forum concerning Kiev and Zorki. Seems to be an interesting subject area. So you think I shouldn´t use this cam as a paperweight ? What is so special with RED P mark ?
Special coating ?

Wink


Not only coating , after war Russian lenses made from Zeiss glass, on Zeiss machine by Zeiss people.... I did prove it many times quality is stunning , most of the times better than later versions and if you lucky outstanding really good as genuine Zeiss or even better. For example my Industar-22 copies was lot more better than genuine Leica Elmar.

My Jupiter-9 and Jupiter 12 with red p simple awesome, and if I remember as well Jupiter-8 also a very very good one.
Seek my posts here in Galleries. I did mark in title Red P.


PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Many thanks for the info.

Have seen elsewhere a link to a manual. Will download it and read a little bit more about this cam.

Wink


PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rolf wrote:
Many thanks for the info.

Have seen elsewhere a link to a manual. Will download it and read a little bit more about this cam.

Wink


If you will shoot first roll count of half of speed above 1/125 this is good in general and knock first shutter before change speeds others are straight forward.

I look forward your opinion after first trip, lovely camera hopefully you will love it too.


PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
On my FED2 I change speed before cocking the shutter and it's still working fine. I tend to leave the shutter speed alone and use the aperture to adjust exposure most of the time.


PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
beautiful newish copy of the camera and great old copy of the lens!


PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Seems that the cam has some issues with the range finder which I will try to fix when wintertime will come. Not a great problem for the 5 € I paid for this combo.

In the meantime I need perhaps few recommendations regarding an adapter for the Jupiter-8 lens (m4/3 or NEX) ?

Thanks in advance.

Wink


PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rolf wrote:
Seems that the cam has some issues with the range finder which I will try to fix when wintertime will come. Not a great problem for the 5 € I paid for this combo.

In the meantime I need perhaps few recommendations regarding an adapter for the Jupiter-8 lens (m4/3 or NEX) ?

Thanks in advance.

Wink


This mount has two type one outer mount lens has focusing part , and one inner mount lens like 50mm Jupiter-8 which has no focusing part due focusing device is part of camera.
inner mount adapter with focusing ring is expensive cost above 100 GBP , other is less for outer mount lenses like 135mm, 85mm
and most sad news best lens is Jupiter-12 3,5cm which is goes to deep into body no way to mount it on digital.

Range finder should easily fixable seek Google.


PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 6:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I know the RF adjustment is simple on FEDs requiring no removal of top plate - I hope the same applies to the Kiev.
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