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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 5:04 pm    Post subject: Roofs of Motovun Reply with quote
I thought they deserve their own thread, Nikkor 105/2.5 ais


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I like the pano a lot, but personally I would have underexposed it 1/3-1/2 EV to bring out the color and contrast. It looks a bit washed out on my monitor.

Like this I'd say...

[I'll delete it immediately, just tell me to...]


PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hi Klaus

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At the contrary! your version looks better. Do you have a calibrated monitor? It s years now that i am thinking of buying a tool to calibrate my monitor, but then i always find a lens to buy first Smile I adjusted my monitor with the help of some on line tools, as much as it s possible, what i see is that the biggest problem is brightness level, i try to do my PP work always at the same time of the day (evenings) but that is not always possible. And then there are my kids who use my computer, they have to tilt the monitor down each time, otherwise they don t see a thing (i have a LCD monitor). Smile


PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Tomas,
you don't need to make a full monitor calibration to improve the gamma.
Use this or other similar table, and adjust contrast and brightness until you can discriminate between all the different squares
while keeping the extreme left as white as possible and the extreme right as black as possible:



PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I have calibrated mine as good as possible, but I guess the tool Orio
posted will certainly help a lot for the first steps!


PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
If Tomas, like me, is using a consumer monitor (I am on a simple Philips monitor, just a little bit above the everyday office monitor level),
doing a full colour calibration is a big and quite useless expense, because the limitations inherent to the hardware kind of make useless any subtle calibration work.
Full calibration makes sense (and it's actually required on a regular basis) when one works with a professional monitor such as an Eizo monitor for instance.


PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Mine is a simple old Siemens Laptop with 16:9 screen and easy calibration worked wonders.


PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I also have a Philips, basic monitor, i used this to adjust it: http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/, you probably know about this: http://www.xrite.com/custom_page.aspx?PageID=77&Lang=en, what you think?
My color score is 3, not too bad for a 40 year old male, with -6 dioptry
Tomas


PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
tomasg wrote:
I also have a Philips, basic monitor, i used this to adjust it: http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/,


That routine is an advanced gamma calibration routine, it does not involve colours.
Basically is the same adjustment you make with the grayscale, but on steroids Wink
Real monitor calibration involves colour, but as I said, it's kind of useless to calibrate colours on a monitor that is basically designed
just to display everyday office colours in the srgb profile.
In other words, why spend time and money to calibrate the subtleties of all red shades when your monitor will not display them anyway?
For monitors like ours, a simple adjustment of colour temperature such as what most graphic cards like Nvidia allow, is sufficient to get the most out of the hardware.

Professional monitors like Eizo work in RGB or other advanced colour spaces like Prophoto, and they can display a much wider range of shades.
For those monitors, colour calibration is crucial, because they are high precision instruments.

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you probably know about this: http://www.xrite.com/custom_page.aspx?PageID=77&Lang=en, what you think?


Yes, I know that. I own the X-Rite color checker passport.
Now, that is something that can be really useful for a photographer! Camera profiles are decisive for the quality of colour photos.
The right camera profile can change everything of the look of a photograph, because every colour out of a table of 18 is calibrated individually,
something that you can not do with any consumer monitor calibration - and, the calibration is tailored on your camera's characteristics.
Which means that every different camera that you may use will be optimized individually.

That tool (CCP) is something that I can heartily recommend to all committed digital photographers. I am using it's more than one year now
and I really don't know how I could do without it before. My M9 images have improved of 100% since I use my own custom colour profiles.
You can see the "Walnut leaves" image in the gallery, the colours are precisely what I could see there and I could only do it with my custom profiles.
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