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beat2beat
Joined: 12 Jan 2010 Posts: 10
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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 8:18 pm Post subject: Helios 44m 2/58, Auto Optomax 35mm, Sigma XQ 39-80mm |
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beat2beat wrote:
I'm a newbie here, found out about manual lenses recently. So i bag off 3 lenses on ebay. Got them today, here they are:
Helios 44m 2/58 f2
Auto Optomax 35mm
Sigma XQ 39-80mm
Pictures took on Nikon D70 with Nikkor 18-105mm lens.
I know that Helios 44m is a good lenses, but there are so many Helios lenses? which one is the best?
anyone has any comment about the lenses? info? or maybe tips? I'm really new here so please help!!
Oh, i am using these lenses on a Nikon D70 with M42 adapter.
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ManualFocus-G
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 6622 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 8:19 pm Post subject: Re: Helios 44m 2/58, Auto Optomax 35mm, Sigma XQ 39-80mm |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
beat2beat wrote: |
I'm a newbie here, found out about manual lenses recently. So i bag off 3 lenses on ebay. Got them today, here they are:
Helios 44m 2/58 f2
Auto Optomax 35mm
Sigma XQ 39-80mm
Pictures took on Nikon D70 with Nikkor 18-105mm lens.
I know that Helios 44m is a good lenses, but there are so many Helios lenses? which one is the best?
anyone has any comment about the lenses? info? or maybe tips? I'm really new here so please help!!
Oh, i am using these lenses on a Nikon D70 with M42 adapter. |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Welcome ! Nice to see you here!
Which one is best I think no too important all are good enough to use them and all are very cheap so you can start to collect them and judge by your self. I think I never heard any negative critics about their optical quality. _________________ -------------------------------
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fatdeeman
Joined: 13 Jun 2009 Posts: 780 Location: UK
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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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fatdeeman wrote:
I have the 44m, nice lens, good sharpness and colour, contrast can be a bit lacking wide open and I recommend using a hood but you can always bump it up in software.
I have no idea about that particular Optomax, I have a 135mm that was made by Tokina so there is a good chance it was made by a decent company, it just depends which one they used for that lens because they didn't build their own.
Older sigma lenses are a lucky dip, some are great and some are relatively poor but they are all distinctive and I have heard faint praise for this one in the past although I forget where, I think it might have been a kit lens for the relatively rare sigma slr's.
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Mirrorless: Panasonic DMC-G1, Sony NEX-5N
Compact: Canon PowerShot G3
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Wide: Tokina RMC 28mm F/2.8, Tamron Adaptall 2 28mm F/2.5, Sun Optical 28mm F/2.5, Super paragon 28mm F/2.8, Sigma filtermatic 24mm F/2.8, Fujinon 35mm F/2.8, Sun Optical 35mm F/2.8
Standard: Industar 50-2, Helios 44-2, Helios 44M, Helios 44M-3, Pentax-M 50mm F/1.4, Pentax-M 50mm F/1.7, Pentax-M 50mm F/2, Ricoh 50mm F/1.7, Chinon 50mm F/1.7
Tele: Pentacon 135mm F/2.8, Pentacon 200mm F/3.5, Optomax 200mm f/3.5, Sun Optical 135mm F/3.5, Soligor 350mm F/5.6
Zoom: Tokina 28-70mm f/3.5-4.5 SZ-X270 SD, Sigma Zoom Pi 35-200mm F4-5.6, Sun Optical 28-80mm F/3.5-4.5, Sunagor 80-205mm F/3.8, Tokina RMC 80-200mm F/4, Vivitar 70-150mm F/3.8, Tamron 95-205mm F/6.3, Tamron Adaptall 28-200mm F/3.8-5.6 LD Aspherical, Tokina RMC 70-210mm F/3.5
Mirror: Falcon (Samyang) 800mm F/8, MTO-11CA 1000mm F/10, Tamron Adaptall 2 500mm F/8
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Xpres
Joined: 11 Dec 2007 Posts: 964 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 12:19 am Post subject: |
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Xpres wrote:
I have the sigma, a great looking piece of glass but not that easy to use.
See here http://forum.manualfocus.org/viewtopic.php?id=8038
I hang on to it - I like portrait lenses - but very rarely use it. _________________ Film... and sometimes SD14, 5D2 and some other suff! |
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my_photography
Joined: 03 Nov 2008 Posts: 2772 Location: Pearl of the Orient
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 1:19 am Post subject: |
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my_photography wrote:
Welcome to the forum.
My recommendation: take those lenses out and start taking some photos with them. I am sure you will have a lot of fun with them _________________
Zeiss: CJZ Flektogon 20/2.8, CJZ Flektogon 20/4, , CJZ Pentacon 29/2.8, CJZ Flektogon 35/2.4, CJZ Pancolar 50/1.8, Tessar 50/2.8, Biotar 7.5cm/1.5, CJZ Pancolar 80/1.8, CJZ Sonnar 135/3.5, CJZ Pentacon 135/2.8 CJZ Sonnar 200/2.8
Other Germany: Meyer Primoplan 50/1.8, Meyer Trioplan 100/2.8
Takumar: SMC 50/1.4 Super Tak 55/2, Super Tak 85/1.9, S-M-C 135/3.5, Super Tak 150/4
Russian: Zenith 16/2.8, Mir-24M 2/35, Volna-9 50/2.8, Helios 44M (58/2), Helios 44M-3 MC (58/2), Helios 40 (85/1.5), Tair 11A (135/2.8 )
Others: Sears 28/2.8, Sankor 35/2.8, Enna M�nchen Tele-Ennalyt 135/3.5
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6950 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 7:14 am Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
The Helios is a favourite here, any of the 44s are cheap and very good. Some of the Helios range weren't Russian but made in Japan and these are not as good. The Optomax can be found cheaply, but samples that we've seen here always look good. I'm not so sure about the Sigma zoom; it's likely to be an average lens. Looking at the line Xpres has posted it may also be fiddly. However, it does sound interesting.
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beat2beat
Joined: 12 Jan 2010 Posts: 10
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 9:30 am Post subject: |
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beat2beat wrote:
yup definitely will bring them out on a date. will post some pictures later on. Cheers guys! |
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beat2beat
Joined: 12 Jan 2010 Posts: 10
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Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:13 am Post subject: |
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beat2beat wrote:
this image here is taken by Helios 44m 2/58, not mine though,
http://www.flickr.com/photos/itssg/3525023759/in/set-72157617985166333/
The picture has a colour tone of slight yellow or brown, makes it look like aged picture. Is that the effect of the lens or it had been altered in Photoshop? can anyone gv me an answer please? thank you. |
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nurfen
Joined: 18 Jul 2011 Posts: 1
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 4:59 am Post subject: |
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nurfen wrote:
No, that tone is made in post, and is not an effect of the lens itself.
Here are some images I shot with a Optomax 35mm f/2.8 on a 5D Mk2:
The lens is really, really awesome! Got it for $40 on eBay and couldn't be happier.
Edit: Seems like the images aren't working due to some weird coding here at the forum (worked great when I previewed the post, but not when I submitted it). Anyway, here's a link to the album: https://www.imglib.org/album/ZxLb/jRy4Yex/
Edit 2: I might add that _nothing_ has been done in post. Not even contrast changes or WB adjustments. |
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walter g
Joined: 20 Feb 2010 Posts: 2463 Location: NC, USA
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:49 am Post subject: |
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walter g wrote:
nurfen wrote: |
No, that tone is made in post, and is not an effect of the lens itself.
Here are some images I shot with a Optomax 35mm f/2.8 on a 5D Mk2:
The lens is really, really awesome! Got it for $40 on eBay and couldn't be happier.
Edit: Seems like the images aren't working due to some weird coding here at the forum (worked great when I previewed the post, but not when I submitted it). Anyway, here's a link to the album: https://www.imglib.org/album/ZxLb/jRy4Yex/
Edit 2: I might add that _nothing_ has been done in post. Not even contrast changes or WB adjustments. |
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Minolta MC W SI 2.5/28, MD 2.8/28, MC W SG 3.5/28, MC Celtic 3.5/28, MC W HG 2.8/35, MD Celtic 2.8/35, QE 4/35, Rokkor X 2/45, MC Rokkor X PG 1.4/50, MC Rokkor X PG 1.7/50, MD Rokkor X 1.7/50, MD 2/50, MC Rokkor PF 1.7/55, MC Rokkor PF 1.9/55, Auto Tele Rokkor PG 2.8/135, MC Tele Rokkor QD 3.5/135, TC 4/135, MC Celtic 4/200, MC Tele Rokkor PE 4.5/200
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martyn_bannister
Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 1151
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:56 am Post subject: |
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martyn_bannister wrote:
Welcome both. Before you succumb to Lens Buying Addiction, make sure to go out and shoot these lenses!
BTW - first post won't show images -it's an anti spam measure. |
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ChromaticAberration
Joined: 23 Dec 2010 Posts: 819 Location: Portugal
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:54 am Post subject: |
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ChromaticAberration wrote:
To be honest I wasn't expecting such quality from the optomax. At least after resizing they look usably sharp and bokeh is not bad at all.
You will also be please with the Helios I am sure but what I am more curious about is the XQ zoom, ain't that the "high-end" line from Sigma? _________________ Body: Fujifilm X-E1
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Minolfan
Joined: 30 Dec 2008 Posts: 3438 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:37 am Post subject: |
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Minolfan wrote:
If you are using a Nikon DSLR you need an adapter with glass to get infinity focus AFAIK. Such adapter can have a negative influence on the image quality.
So I think you had better searched for lenses (Nikon or third paty) with Nikon bajonet.
No reason not to test what you have found now ofcourse! |
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ManualFocus-G
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 6622 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
The Optomax looks decent! I have an Optomax zoom which is really good too, made by Tokina.
The Sigma lens mentioned by the original poster...well I didn't find it good at all. In fact, it was horrible! _________________ Graham - Moderator
Shooter of choice: Fujifilm X-T20 with M42, PB and C/Y lenses
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spiralcity
Joined: 02 Oct 2008 Posts: 1207 Location: Chicago, U.S.A
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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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spiralcity wrote:
I shot the moon a while back with an Optomax 400mm and 2x tele converter. The pics where decent, much better than I expected.
I tried using the lens for birding, but focusing was much too slow for quick moving birds. _________________ Nikons : F4-EM-FG-FE2-FA-EL-FTN-N2020-N70-F Nikkorex
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Minolfan
Joined: 30 Dec 2008 Posts: 3438 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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Minolfan wrote:
spiralcity wrote: |
I tried using the lens for birding, but focusing was much too slow for quick moving birds. |
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Here we say that you have to put some salt on their tails first, then they slow down ! |
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