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montecarlo
Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 1865 Location: Romania
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:09 pm Post subject: Canon EOS EF-M |
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montecarlo wrote:
Hello,
On a local (Romania) photography forum it appeard for sale a Canon EOS EF-M body at about 20-23 euros.
Now, could I use it with any M42 lenses I own (see signature) ? Can be used the Aperture priority with M42 lenses.
Is there other think I should look ?
Thank you very much.
Cosmin.
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Flor27
Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Posts: 1195 Location: Paris, France
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:20 pm Post subject: Re: Canon EOS EF-M |
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Flor27 wrote:
montecarlo wrote: |
Hello,
On a local (Romania) photography forum it appeard for sale a Canon EOS EF-M body at about 20-23 euros.
Now, could I use it with any M42 lenses I own (see signature) ? Can be used the Aperture priority with M42 lenses.
Is there other think I should look ? |
I think it will works as all EOS camera in AE mode with MF lenses : quite good. But as for 5D body, you should be aware of some protruding lenses back that could hit the mirror.
Indeed tt's the only one EOS camera without autofocus so his focusing screen has microprims and stigonometer.
http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/hardwares/classics/eos/eoscamera/EFM/index.htm _________________ Switching from M42 to Minolta MD & Contax/Yashica |
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
I have a EOS 50E bought used.
It has strange behaviour with adapters with chip. It accepts some adapters (Leica) and refuses others (Contax).
Adapters without chip should always work, of course you need to use Aperture mode or Manual mode. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Orio wrote: |
Adapters without chip should always work, of course you need to use Aperture mode or Manual mode. |
Careful! Some adapters with chips cannot be mounted at a film EOS!!!
The EF-M is IMHO the best film EOS for adapting manual lenses. I have been looking for one for quite a while now... _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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montecarlo
Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 1865 Location: Romania
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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montecarlo wrote:
Seems that only the Helios 44-2 will hit the mirror : http://www.panoramaplanet.de/comp/ _________________ Canonet QL17 III
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Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 35mm f:2.4
Pentax MX, ME Super, Chinon CE4/CM4, Petri MC 28mm f:2, smc Pentax-M 50mm f:1.7, Soligor T 135mm f:2.8
Minolta X500, Tokina 28/2.8, Rokkor 50/1.7, 80-205/4.5
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Orio
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Film EOS are not all like 5D
It's 5D that has big mirror.
Many film EOS have mirrors of OK size. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Flor27
Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Posts: 1195 Location: Paris, France
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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Flor27 wrote:
This list is not huge, there are many other MF lenses. _________________ Switching from M42 to Minolta MD & Contax/Yashica |
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montecarlo
Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 1865 Location: Romania
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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montecarlo wrote:
Yes, but from those M42 lenses I own. _________________ Canonet QL17 III
Zenit E , Helios-44 58mm f:2.0 , Tair-11A 135mm f:2.8, Jupiter-9 85mm f:2.0,
Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 35mm f:2.4
Pentax MX, ME Super, Chinon CE4/CM4, Petri MC 28mm f:2, smc Pentax-M 50mm f:1.7, Soligor T 135mm f:2.8
Minolta X500, Tokina 28/2.8, Rokkor 50/1.7, 80-205/4.5
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Jesito
Joined: 24 Aug 2007 Posts: 5745 Location: Olivella, Catalonia, (Spain)
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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Jesito wrote:
Hi Cosmin,
These EF-M are sold locally at 30€, seems to be a nice camera.
Best regards,
Jes. _________________ Jesito, Moderator
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Thanks for reminding me. I will try another ebay search... _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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F16SUNSHINE
Joined: 20 Aug 2007 Posts: 5486 Location: Left Coast
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
Sorry for the steady C/Y drumbeat. Why would you not choose a Contax or Yashica body. On US ebay you can find a RTS or 139 starting around $50. Or if you want motor wind and spot meter a Contax167 or Aria for Starting around $100-$300 respectively. I have used M42 lenses with contax and yashica for years. They are very compatible with no mirror issues (accept RTS3). If a modern SLR film body for M42 is what you want, I think it is the best choice. The adapters are cheap and of course you can mount native C/Y lenses. Viewfinders are clear and bright and meters very accurate. Just my 2 pennies. Andy |
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Andy, I already have a Contax 167MT, which I paid I cant' remember if 40 or 60 Euros and I am very proud of, best viewfinder I ever used!
I was only talking about the EOS camera because the thread raised issue about how it works with manual lenses. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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F16SUNSHINE
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
Wow that is a great price for the 167 Orio. Your are right this is about film eos thread. I just always compare film cameras to C/Y. I only wish that they did not leave the market before giving us a great DSLR. I love how the Contax bodies have controls for vital functions. No endless menu options to fumble with. Now that I have an eos digi I really miss this.
Cosmin I notice now some pentax lenses on your list. The Pentax MX if you can find one is really cool also. The body is as big as a rangefinder, the viewfinder is so big and bright my wife named the camera her "cinamaplex". |
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
F16SUNSHINE wrote: |
Wow that is a great price for the 167 Orio. |
Not only that, it also came in excellent condition!
Only problem, the owner must have been a cigar smoker, because the camera was STINKING with cigar smell (hmm.. there's no emoticon available for "bleah")
I had to leave it out in the open air one week and yet is somehow has still some smell.
I guess I will have to leave it closed in a box with some perfume for some time _________________ Orio, Administrator
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F16SUNSHINE
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
I have had this problem with smoke stench before . Try leaving in a box with baking soda (sodium bicarbonate). It could take a while but should work. Also uv from a sunny window can work. It might make the rubber grip less soft. I did this with a lens that was yellowing. The rubber grip seemed fine after a month and the yellow in lens coating was gone. The sun is a photographers friend in many ways. |
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Orio
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
F16SUNSHINE wrote: |
I have had this problem with smoke stench before . Try leaving in a box with baking soda (sodium bicarbonate). It could take a while but should work. Also uv from a sunny window can work. It might make the rubber grip less soft. I did this with a lens that was yellowing. The rubber grip seemed fine after a month and the yellow in lens coating was gone. The sun is a photographers friend in many ways. |
Are you saying that the sunlight (and not the open air) will remove the cigar smell?? _________________ Orio, Administrator
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Orio wrote: |
Andy, I already have a Contax 167MT, which I paid I cant' remember if 40 or 60 Euros and I am very proud of, best viewfinder I ever used! |
Wow! What a price!!! _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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F16SUNSHINE
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
[quoteAre you saying that the sunlight (and not the open air) will remove the cigar smell??
No rather both. The UV radiation from the sunlight will break down the organic compounds that cause the smell. We had a long string regarding this at the favorite classics forum:
http://www.kyphoto.com/classics/forum/messages/2/10426.html?1192081665
I have a friend who has a UV bulb ozone generator to kill odor and clear Thoriated lenses (mostly takumars). For you and me we can use the sun it just takes longer. I can see putting the body cap on the camera, removing the batteries, and hanging it by it's strap on a plant hook in a sunny south window. It sounds maybe a little crazy but it works. [/quote] |
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Laurence
Joined: 26 Mar 2007 Posts: 4809 Location: Western Washington State
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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Laurence wrote:
LucisPictor wrote: |
Orio wrote: |
Andy, I already have a Contax 167MT, which I paid I cant' remember if 40 or 60 Euros and I am very proud of, best viewfinder I ever used! |
Wow! What a price!!! |
Possibly a dumb question that I could probably look up, LucisPictor, but perhaps you can provide an "instant answer"? Can M42 lenses be used on the Contax167MT?
While I am very enamored with my Revueflex 3003 [ie: Chinon CE], as a basic solid camera (with mirror lockup), I look askance at such a camera as the Contax167MT as a very fine gear to have, with more features.
(But my schoolteacher said "no questions is dumb, because knowledge is gained personally") _________________
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CV Apo-Lanthar 90/3.5SL, (Thank you Klaus),
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Flek 50,
Pentax-A 150
Pentax-A 120 Macro
Voigtlander Vitomatic I w/Color Skopar 50/2.8
Konica TC and zoom lenses (thanks Carsten)
Contax AX
Yashica ML 50/2
Yashica ML 35/2.8
Carl Zeiss Contax 50/1.4
Tamron Adaptall SP 17/3.5
Tamron Adaptall 28/2.5
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F16SUNSHINE
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
Yes, with a cheap adapter. Of course in stop down mode only like when using with dslr. |
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LucisPictor
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Right, there is no "dumb" question!
M42: 45.5mm
Contax: 45.5mm
I have never seen an M42-Contax-adapter, but Pentax-K also has 45.5mm and I have a working M42-PK-adapter... _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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Laurence
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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Laurence wrote:
Thank you guys! I have been researching such a camera with the exact features of the Contax167MT. I just never knew about that camera until reading in the forum. It seems to be met with good reviews; I am aware that there have been some mechanical problems here and there, but it seems that owners are keeping them a long time.
The only feature that is missing for me is mirror lockup; don't know if that is a huge issue though. Would be nice, although most of my photography is from a tripod.
Of course, I would not hesitate to buy Zeiss or Yashica lenses for this mount....at least when my budget can afford such things... _________________
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Demur,—you ’re straightway dangerous,
And handled with a chain.
Emily Dickinson
Cameras and Lenses in Use:
Yashica Mat 124 w/ Yashinon 80/3.5,
CV Apo-Lanthar 90/3.5SL, (Thank you Klaus),
Pentax 645,
Flek 50,
Pentax-A 150
Pentax-A 120 Macro
Voigtlander Vitomatic I w/Color Skopar 50/2.8
Konica TC and zoom lenses (thanks Carsten)
Contax AX
Yashica ML 50/2
Yashica ML 35/2.8
Carl Zeiss Contax 50/1.4
Tamron Adaptall SP 17/3.5
Tamron Adaptall 28/2.5
Tamron Adaptall SP 300/2.8 LD (IF)
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F16SUNSHINE
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Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 12:00 am Post subject: |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
I have two from this seller. There are better available (brass) but these work fine. Seller delivered fast and with a spanner tool for removing from body. MLU is not common on later mid line Contax. If you don't mind giving up motor drive and spot metering. The RTS has MLU as does the much improved RTSII (much more money as well). The MLU feature is nice with these cameras. I have had an RTS for over 15 years. The Mirror lock up is used on about every other roll (macro). I think that is pretty often. It is a great camera. At the end of the day, not much different from what you are using though. Click here to see on Ebay |
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Orio
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Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 2:39 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Yes the 167 MT does not have the mirror lockup. This can sure be a problem for people who does lot of macro work.
For those who make only occasional macros, and most of the time normal photography, the 167 MT is a very good camera for the money you can find it now for.
It feels very professional in your hand, and the viewfinder is a joy to use with Zeiss Contax lenses. You can really feel what it means to manual-focus with those jewels.
Of course the RTS III - and other cameras later than the 167 MT - are better cameras than the 167 MT.
They also cost however much more even used, and I think they are only justified if someone shoots a lot of film.
Since my film shooting is rarely more than 1-2 rolls per month, I can not justify the 200-300 Euros that are needed to buy a used RTS III or AX.
It comes without saying that should one day the occasion occur to me to buy one RTSIII or AX at a very good price, I will not let it pass! _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Flor27
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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Flor27 wrote:
I've read than 167 MT has shutter problem among others - not very reliable cameras... _________________ Switching from M42 to Minolta MD & Contax/Yashica |
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