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lihoman0915
Joined: 12 Jul 2011 Posts: 12 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 5:43 am Post subject: Question about Carl Zeiss Biotar 58mm F/2.0 |
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lihoman0915 wrote:
I bought a biotar recently but it seems to differ from other biotar I have seen on the web. It is black and has much more aperture blades. (app. 17-1. And most disturbingly the min. focusing distance is longer (0.9m). Anyone know the detail of this lens?
Here are some sample fotos with sensia 100.
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martyn_bannister
Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 1151
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:15 am Post subject: |
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martyn_bannister wrote:
Love #4 the cat Have you a photo of the lens? |
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std
Joined: 09 Feb 2010 Posts: 1826 Location: Bulgaria
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:28 am Post subject: |
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std wrote:
It's the well known black biotar - an early version one from late 40-ies.
It is a nice lens - maybe not that sharp as later ones but nice. _________________ Stefan
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poilu
Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 10472 Location: Greece
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:48 am Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
welcome lihoman0915
nice to see pics from Hong Kong
have a nice stay with us _________________ T* |
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lihoman0915
Joined: 12 Jul 2011 Posts: 12 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:50 am Post subject: |
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lihoman0915 wrote:
martyn_bannister wrote: |
Love #4 the cat Have you a photo of the lens? |
Here are the fotos.
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lihoman0915
Joined: 12 Jul 2011 Posts: 12 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:53 am Post subject: |
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lihoman0915 wrote:
std wrote: |
It's the well known black biotar - an early version one from late 40-ies.
It is a nice lens - maybe not that sharp as later ones but nice. |
I do agree. I have compared the resolution at infinity with my super takumar 50/1.4 and have found that takumar has a significant lead despite the fact that the biotar has a 8mm advantage. However, i'm quite satisfied with the color and the bokeh of the lens. |
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lihoman0915
Joined: 12 Jul 2011 Posts: 12 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:54 am Post subject: |
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lihoman0915 wrote:
poilu wrote: |
welcome lihoman0915
nice to see pics from Hong Kong
have a nice stay with us |
Thanks for your warm welcome; I will definitely upload more. |
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6950 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:13 am Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
Welcome!!
That lens has a unique look about it. _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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Esox lucius
Joined: 26 Aug 2008 Posts: 2441 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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Esox lucius wrote:
Pre-war design, post-war manufactured Biotar 58/2 with longer min. focusing distance but the 18 blades and black color will have people on eBay pay more than 200 for it (based on ended auction listings and one I sold myself).
Technical quality not as good as later versions, but the diaphragm is perfectly round at all apertures. Put that into use when placing highlights in out-of-focus (in the bokeh) - later Biotar versions will make polygons, not nice round balls like yours.
Other than that it's a swirl and whirl Biotar - some love 'em, others hate them for the charasteristic fingerprint images captured with them show. _________________ Vilhelm
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lihoman0915
Joined: 12 Jul 2011 Posts: 12 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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lihoman0915 wrote:
Esox lucius wrote: |
Pre-war design, post-war manufactured Biotar 58/2 with longer min. focusing distance but the 18 blades and black color will have people on eBay pay more than 200 for it (based on ended auction listings and one I sold myself).
Technical quality not as good as later versions, but the diaphragm is perfectly round at all apertures. Put that into use when placing highlights in out-of-focus (in the bokeh) - later Biotar versions will make polygons, not nice round balls like yours.
Other than that it's a swirl and whirl Biotar - some love 'em, others hate them for the charasteristic fingerprint images captured with them show. |
Thanks so much for explaining! I found this lens attached to a worn mtl50 in a flea market. I spent about 30 on it, wt a real bargain! |
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