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Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 12:06 pm Post subject: 5D Mark II lens compatibility chart |
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Orio wrote:
See in excel here
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pBlK6fBzNbwctiFxajJJvQQ&hl=en
hi,
I open this thread to list compatibilities of manual focus lenses with the new EOS 5D Mark II camera.
Everybody who owns or has used the camera is invited to take part by submitting their experiences.
For every lens, the following questions need to be answered:
1) Can be physically mounted on the camera? (YES/NO)
2) Is it possible to take pictures focusing at infinity in normal mode? (YES no problem/YES with problems (specify problems)/NO no picture is taken)
3) Is it possible to take pictures focusing at infinity in live view mode (mirror locked up)? (YES no problem/YES with problems (specify problems)/NO no picture is taken)
4) Is it possible to take pictures focusing at distances other than infinity? (YES (specify max.distance/NO)
5) Specify the type of adapter used and it's origin (which seller it comes from)
Let's make a chart as comprehensive as possible.
Thank you! _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Orio
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Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
I begin with the lenses I have tried so far:
YASHICA
ML 2.8/24
- Can be physically mounted on the camera? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at infinity in normal mode? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at infinity in live view mode (mirror locked up)? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at distances other than infinity? YES
- Specify the type of adapter used and it's origin: FA Chip adapter from seller Big_Is
ML 2.8/28
- Can be physically mounted on the camera? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at infinity in normal mode? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at infinity in live view mode (mirror locked up)? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at distances other than infinity? YES
- Specify the type of adapter used and it's origin: FA Chip adapter from seller Big_Is
ZEISS CONTAX
Makro-Planar 2.8/100
- Can be physically mounted on the camera? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at infinity in normal mode? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at infinity in live view mode (mirror locked up)? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at distances other than infinity? YES
- Specify the type of adapter used and it's origin: FA Chip adapter from seller Big_Is
Distagon 1.4/35
- Can be physically mounted on the camera? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at infinity in normal mode? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at infinity in live view mode (mirror locked up)? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at distances other than infinity? YES
- Specify the type of adapter used and it's origin: FA Chip adapter from seller Big_Is
Distagon 2/28 ("Hollywood")
- Can be physically mounted on the camera? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at infinity in normal mode? YES but the mirror can not swing back (need to unmount lens after each shot)
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at infinity in live view mode (mirror locked up)? YES as long as you start and end Live View mode with lens at distance other than infinity
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at distances other than infinity? YES, up to approx.400-500 mt distance
- Specify the type of adapter used and it's origin: FA Chip adapter from seller Big_Is
Planar 1.4/50
- Can be physically mounted on the camera? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at infinity in normal mode? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at infinity in live view mode (mirror locked up)? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at distances other than infinity? YES
- Specify the type of adapter used and it's origin: FA Chip adapter from seller Big_Is
NIKON
Nikkor AIS 2.5/105
- Can be physically mounted on the camera? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at infinity in normal mode? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at infinity in live view mode (mirror locked up)? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at distances other than infinity? YES
- Specify the type of adapter used and it's origin: FA Chip adapter from seller Nikondiscount
NIKKOR-UD Auto 3.5/20
- Can be physically mounted on the camera? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at infinity in normal mode? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at infinity in live view mode (mirror locked up)? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at distances other than infinity? YES
- Specify the type of adapter used and it's origin: FA Chip adapter from seller Nikondiscount
ZEISS JENA
Tessar 2.8/50 aluminium, M42 version
- Can be physically mounted on the camera? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at infinity in normal mode? YES but the mirror can not swing back (need to unmount lens after each shot)
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at infinity in live view mode (mirror locked up)? YES as long as you start and end Live View mode with lens at distance other than infinity
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at distances other than infinity? YES but the mirror can not swing back (need to unmount lens after each shot)
- Specify the type of adapter used and it's origin: FA Chip adapter, no flange from seller unknown
Flektogon 4/20
- Can be physically mounted on the camera? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at infinity in normal mode? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at infinity in live view mode (mirror locked up)? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at distances other than infinity? YES
- Specify the type of adapter used and it's origin: FA Chip adapter, no flange from seller unknown; FA Chip adapter, flanged from seller unknown
MEYER-OPTIK GOERLITZ
Lydith 3.5/30
- Can be physically mounted on the camera? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at infinity in normal mode? YES but the mirror can not swing back (need to unmount lens after each shot)
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at infinity in live view mode (mirror locked up)? YES as long as you start and end Live View mode with lens at distance other than infinity
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at distances other than infinity? YES, up to approx. 3 mt distance
- Specify the type of adapter used and it's origin: FA Chip adapter, no flange from seller unknown
Trioplan 2.8/100
- Can be physically mounted on the camera? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at infinity in normal mode? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at infinity in live view mode (mirror locked up)? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at distances other than infinity? YES
- Specify the type of adapter used and it's origin: FA Chip adapter, no flange from seller unknown
STEINHEIL MUENCHEN
Culminar 4.5/135 M42 version
- Can be physically mounted on the camera? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at infinity in normal mode? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at infinity in live view mode (mirror locked up)? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at distances other than infinity? YES
- Specify the type of adapter used and it's origin: FA Chip adapter, no flange from seller unknown _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Orio
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Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
List updated with Distagon 2/28 _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Attila
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Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Nice and important report! Thank you! _________________ -------------------------------
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Orio
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Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Attila wrote: |
Nice and important report! Thank you! |
With the help of Alessandro, Trifox, and the others who have the camera, we can make the most complete compatibility list available, I hope! _________________ Orio, Administrator
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A G Photography
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Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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A G Photography wrote:
Orio wrote: |
Attila wrote: |
Nice and important report! Thank you! |
With the help of Alessandro, Trifox, and the others who have the camera, we can make the most complete compatibility list available, I hope! |
Great idea Orio, I'll take notes of how the various lenses I own behve with the 5D MkII from this moment on. _________________ Alessandro
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SLR: Chinon CX, Fujica ST605n, Nikon f601, Pentacon FM, Pentax Spotmatic SPII, Praktica FX, Praktica FX2, Voigtlander VST1, Yashica FX-3, Zeiss Contaflex
RF: Altissa Altix, Zorki Ie, Kiev 4b
Medium Format: Pentacon Six TL, Zeiss Ikonta 520/2, Mockba 4, Voigtlander Bessa I, Agfa Isolette II, Agfa Isola
Large Format: Cambo SC 4x5, Rodenstock Sinaron 150/5.6, Rodenstock Rodagon 150/5.6, Schneider Kreuznach Symmar 180/5.6
Lenses
Nikkors: 28/3.5 AIS, 35/2, 50/1.8, 50/2 H, Micro 55/3.5, Micro 60/2.8, 85/1.8, 135/3.5 AI, 200/4 NAI, 18-55/3.5-5.6, 28-80/3.5-5.6, 55-200/4-5.6
CY: Distagon 28/2.8, Planar 50/1.4, Yashika 50/1.7, Sonnar 135/2.8
CZJ m42-Exakta: Flektogon 20/4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Tessar 40/4.5, Tessar 50/2.8, Pancolar 50/1.8, Pancolar 50/2, Biotar 58/2, Biotar 75/1.5, Tessar 80/2.8, Sonnar 135/3.5, Sonnar 135/4, Triotar 135/4
CZJ P6: Flektogon 50/4, Flektogon 65/2.8, Biometar 80/2.8, Biometar 120/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Meyer-Pentacon: Orestegon 29/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Lydith 30/3.5, Primagon 35/4.5, Helioplan 40/4.5, Domiplan 50/2.8, Primotar 50/3.5, Oreston 50/1.8, Primoplan 58/1.9, Orestor 100/2.8, Trioplan 100/2.8, Helioplan 135/4.5, Orestor 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, Primotar 135/3.5, Primotar 180/3.5, Telemegor 180/5.5, Orestegor 200/4, Pentacon 200/4, Orestegor 300/4, Telemegor 300/4.5, Telemegor 400/5.5
Schneider-Kreuznach: Curtagon 28/4, Curtagon 35/2.8, Xenon 50/1.9, Xenar 50/2.8, Tele Xenar 135/3.5, Tele Xenar 200/4
Russians: Arsat Zodiak 30/3.5, Mir-I 37/2.8, Volna-9 50/2.8, Industar-50 50/3.5, Industar-61 50/2.8, Helios 44 58/2, Helios 44-2 58/2, Helios 44-M-4 58/2, Volna-3 80/2.8, Helios 40 85/1.5, Jupiter 9 85/2, Jupiter 11 135/4
Others: Chinon-Tomioka 55/1.4, Helios 28/2.8, Isco Iscotar 50/2.8, Konica Hexanon 40/1.8, Ludwig Meritar 50/2.9, Schacht Travegon 35/3.5, Schacht Travenon 135/4.5, Sekor 55/1.8, Sigma MF 28/2.8, S-Takumar, 28/3.5, S-Takumar 50/1.4, S-Takumar 55/1.8, S-Takumar 55/2, Steinheil Quinar 135/2.8, Steinheil Culminar 135/4.5, Vivitar 135/2.8, Voigtlander Ultron 50/1.8, Yashica Yashinon DX 50/1.4, Zuiko MC Auto-W 28/2.8
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visualopsins
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Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 5:13 pm Post subject: M42 S-M-C Takumars |
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visualopsins wrote:
coincidentally, i tested S-M-C Takumars the other day on **5D** (i don't have 5D2 to try, sorry):
mirror hits these when infinity focus:
20/4.5, 24/3.5, 35/2, 35/3.5, 50/1.4 <-- do not use those with 5D (especially the 24/3.5, mirror hits going up and generates "ERR")!!!
these work fine:
17/4, 28/3.5, macro 50/4, 55/1.8, 85/1.8, 85/1.9, macro 100/4, 105/2.8, 120/2.8, 135/2.5, 135/3.5, 150/4, 200/4, 300/4, 400/4, 500/4.5
tested using both thin (1.35mm) and exact (1.5mm) M42-EF adapters. _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony ILCE-7RM2, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
Lenses:
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX-A ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (151B), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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A G Photography
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Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 6:28 pm Post subject: Re: M42 S-M-C Takumars |
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A G Photography wrote:
siriusdogstar wrote: |
coincidentally, i tested S-M-C Takumars the other day on 5D (should be same on 5D2):
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5d and 5dmkII mirror is not the same, that's why we need to create an up-to-date list. _________________ Alessandro
My Photography Website
My Blog about Photography and Italian Cuisine
My Photostream on Flickr
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DSLR: Nikon d80, Olympus e410
SLR: Chinon CX, Fujica ST605n, Nikon f601, Pentacon FM, Pentax Spotmatic SPII, Praktica FX, Praktica FX2, Voigtlander VST1, Yashica FX-3, Zeiss Contaflex
RF: Altissa Altix, Zorki Ie, Kiev 4b
Medium Format: Pentacon Six TL, Zeiss Ikonta 520/2, Mockba 4, Voigtlander Bessa I, Agfa Isolette II, Agfa Isola
Large Format: Cambo SC 4x5, Rodenstock Sinaron 150/5.6, Rodenstock Rodagon 150/5.6, Schneider Kreuznach Symmar 180/5.6
Lenses
Nikkors: 28/3.5 AIS, 35/2, 50/1.8, 50/2 H, Micro 55/3.5, Micro 60/2.8, 85/1.8, 135/3.5 AI, 200/4 NAI, 18-55/3.5-5.6, 28-80/3.5-5.6, 55-200/4-5.6
CY: Distagon 28/2.8, Planar 50/1.4, Yashika 50/1.7, Sonnar 135/2.8
CZJ m42-Exakta: Flektogon 20/4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Tessar 40/4.5, Tessar 50/2.8, Pancolar 50/1.8, Pancolar 50/2, Biotar 58/2, Biotar 75/1.5, Tessar 80/2.8, Sonnar 135/3.5, Sonnar 135/4, Triotar 135/4
CZJ P6: Flektogon 50/4, Flektogon 65/2.8, Biometar 80/2.8, Biometar 120/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Meyer-Pentacon: Orestegon 29/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Lydith 30/3.5, Primagon 35/4.5, Helioplan 40/4.5, Domiplan 50/2.8, Primotar 50/3.5, Oreston 50/1.8, Primoplan 58/1.9, Orestor 100/2.8, Trioplan 100/2.8, Helioplan 135/4.5, Orestor 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, Primotar 135/3.5, Primotar 180/3.5, Telemegor 180/5.5, Orestegor 200/4, Pentacon 200/4, Orestegor 300/4, Telemegor 300/4.5, Telemegor 400/5.5
Schneider-Kreuznach: Curtagon 28/4, Curtagon 35/2.8, Xenon 50/1.9, Xenar 50/2.8, Tele Xenar 135/3.5, Tele Xenar 200/4
Russians: Arsat Zodiak 30/3.5, Mir-I 37/2.8, Volna-9 50/2.8, Industar-50 50/3.5, Industar-61 50/2.8, Helios 44 58/2, Helios 44-2 58/2, Helios 44-M-4 58/2, Volna-3 80/2.8, Helios 40 85/1.5, Jupiter 9 85/2, Jupiter 11 135/4
Others: Chinon-Tomioka 55/1.4, Helios 28/2.8, Isco Iscotar 50/2.8, Konica Hexanon 40/1.8, Ludwig Meritar 50/2.9, Schacht Travegon 35/3.5, Schacht Travenon 135/4.5, Sekor 55/1.8, Sigma MF 28/2.8, S-Takumar, 28/3.5, S-Takumar 50/1.4, S-Takumar 55/1.8, S-Takumar 55/2, Steinheil Quinar 135/2.8, Steinheil Culminar 135/4.5, Vivitar 135/2.8, Voigtlander Ultron 50/1.8, Yashica Yashinon DX 50/1.4, Zuiko MC Auto-W 28/2.8
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Orio
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:05 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
I just added Contax Planar 1.4/50, Nikkor-UD 3.5/20, Yashica ML 2.8/28, Zeiss Jena Tessar 2.8/50 aluminium M42, Zeiss Jena Flektogon 4/20 and Meyer-Optik Lydith 3.5/30. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:29 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
I think that the fact that live view allows mounting of nearly any lens on the 5DII without mirror shaving is a fact of primary importance, that strangely nobody else (that I know of) before me has ever mentioned yet. This is of course not like shooting freely, but in many cases, it can be a good enough compromise! _________________ Orio, Administrator
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hk300
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:08 am Post subject: Re: M42 S-M-C Takumars |
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hk300 wrote:
A G Photography wrote: |
siriusdogstar wrote: |
coincidentally, i tested S-M-C Takumars the other day on 5D (should be same on 5D2):
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5d and 5dmkII mirror is not the same, that's why we need to create an up-to-date list. |
what is the difference between the 2 mirrors? Size? and/or a complete different design? _________________ No longer member , please don't try to contact to him |
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Orio
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:54 am Post subject: Re: M42 S-M-C Takumars |
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Orio wrote:
hk300 wrote: |
what is the difference between the 2 mirrors? Size? and/or a complete different design? |
I don't know precisely what is the difference, but for sure I could not shoot the Distagon 1.4/35 at infinity without shaving the mirror on the 5D.
Let alone the Distagon 2/28, at infinity it could not even produce an image, only a black frame because the mirror did not lift at all.
So we can assume the mirror is certainly a bit smaller. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:11 pm Post subject: Re: M42 S-M-C Takumars |
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Bruce wrote:
Orio wrote: |
So we can assume the mirror is certainly a bit smaller. |
Hmmm... Somebody is listening to us, maybe? _________________ Digital: Canon 40d & 5DmkII, Film: Hasselblad 203fe/Zeiss 80/2.8 cfe
Adapters for EOS: Cy; M42; Zenit39; Exakta; LeicaR; OlympusOM; PK; Nikon; Rollei35; Retina; Adaptal; P-6 |
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Orio
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:13 pm Post subject: Re: M42 S-M-C Takumars |
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Orio wrote:
Bruce wrote: |
Orio wrote: |
So we can assume the mirror is certainly a bit smaller. |
Hmmm... Somebody is listening to us, maybe? |
I would like to think so
But more probably Canon addressed a known problem with the mirror of the 5D falling. So the smaller screen might be due to the redesign. Probably a smaller screen is easier to be kept into place. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Barata
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 223 Location: Ovar - Portugal
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Barata wrote:
Yes, this thread has a lot of potential.
My 5D MKII just arrived and since i dont have any EF AF around to start shooting, i'm trying to go with the MF lenses for the first tests. However i dont feel confortable about trying to shoot the camera since i dont know the potential hazards that the rear element can cause on the mirror.
Is just an error? Or could permanently damage de mirror?
How do i, safely, test a MF lens in this body without phisically damage it?
I have 2 EXAKTA mount lens to test... it could be a nice addition to the list.
Thanks. _________________ http://www.pictures-of-a-lifetime.com (now with a newsletter so you can keep track of the new pictures being added)
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40D
Lenses:
AF
Sigma 18-200 F3.5-6.3 DC OS
MF
Asahi Super Takumar 50/1.4
ISCO - Gottingen - BEROLINA TELE WESTANAR 135/3.5
CZ Flektogon 25/4
WELTBLICK Auto Tele 135/2.8
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Orio
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
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Yes, this thread has a lot of potential.
My 5D MKII just arrived and since i dont have any EF AF around to start shooting, i'm trying to go with the MF lenses for the first tests. However i dont feel confortable about trying to shoot the camera since i dont know the potential hazards that the rear element can cause on the mirror.
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The rear element can cause only a superficial damage to the edge of the mirror. Nothing that you can see in the viewfinder (and probably neither on the mirror itself).
What risks to be seriously damaged is the rear glass element of the lens, if the barrel does not give it enough protection. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Barata
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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Barata wrote:
Thanks for your answer Orio.
If the mirror hits the rear element of the lens, will the camera signal an error code?
I'm sorry to ask all this questions but i need to review the entire process theoreticaly before i feel confortable in actually doing it. _________________ http://www.pictures-of-a-lifetime.com (now with a newsletter so you can keep track of the new pictures being added)
Body:
40D
Lenses:
AF
Sigma 18-200 F3.5-6.3 DC OS
MF
Asahi Super Takumar 50/1.4
ISCO - Gottingen - BEROLINA TELE WESTANAR 135/3.5
CZ Flektogon 25/4
WELTBLICK Auto Tele 135/2.8
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A G Photography
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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A G Photography wrote:
Barata wrote: |
Thanks for your answer Orio.
If the mirror hits the rear element of the lens, will the camera signal an error code?
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I don't remember any error code neither I had to reset the camera. I just unmount the lens enough to the mirror to clear and return in place. _________________ Alessandro
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Barata
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 223 Location: Ovar - Portugal
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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Barata wrote:
But isnt there any chance of misaligning the mirror in some way? _________________ http://www.pictures-of-a-lifetime.com (now with a newsletter so you can keep track of the new pictures being added)
Body:
40D
Lenses:
AF
Sigma 18-200 F3.5-6.3 DC OS
MF
Asahi Super Takumar 50/1.4
ISCO - Gottingen - BEROLINA TELE WESTANAR 135/3.5
CZ Flektogon 25/4
WELTBLICK Auto Tele 135/2.8
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
No error for me either. But with a couple of my oldest chipped adapters, the camera seems not to recognize the chip and hangs - in that case, just open and then close again the battery port, this resets the camera and you can start taking pictures. Newer adapters don't give me this problem.
As far as I know, there should not be much risk from a couple of mirror hits. Of course, if you make the mirror hit the lens 100 times a day everyday, then maybe something can happen. But probably at that pace the shutter would die first _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Barata
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 223 Location: Ovar - Portugal
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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Barata wrote:
Just to finish this Q&A round... what will i ear/see if the mirror hits the lens? _________________ http://www.pictures-of-a-lifetime.com (now with a newsletter so you can keep track of the new pictures being added)
Body:
40D
Lenses:
AF
Sigma 18-200 F3.5-6.3 DC OS
MF
Asahi Super Takumar 50/1.4
ISCO - Gottingen - BEROLINA TELE WESTANAR 135/3.5
CZ Flektogon 25/4
WELTBLICK Auto Tele 135/2.8
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Barata wrote: |
Just to finish this Q&A round... what will i ear/see if the mirror hits the lens? |
A soft "clunck".
But I heard rumours that some lenses of value higher than 1000 Euros have an audio chip installed for such events, they will speak "idiot!" when the mirror hits the glass _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Barata
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 223 Location: Ovar - Portugal
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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Barata wrote:
Orio wrote: |
Barata wrote: |
Just to finish this Q&A round... what will i ear/see if the mirror hits the lens? |
A soft "clunck".
But I heard rumours that some lenses of value higher than 1000 Euros have an audio chip installed for such events, they will speak "idiot!" when the mirror hits the glass |
I will not get insulted then... my exakta lenses were less than 150€ combined! _________________ http://www.pictures-of-a-lifetime.com (now with a newsletter so you can keep track of the new pictures being added)
Body:
40D
Lenses:
AF
Sigma 18-200 F3.5-6.3 DC OS
MF
Asahi Super Takumar 50/1.4
ISCO - Gottingen - BEROLINA TELE WESTANAR 135/3.5
CZ Flektogon 25/4
WELTBLICK Auto Tele 135/2.8
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Barata
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 223 Location: Ovar - Portugal
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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Barata wrote:
EXAKTA MOUNT LENSES
Flektogon 25/4 and ISCO BEROLINA-TELE-WESTANAR 135/3.5
1) Can be physically mounted on the camera? (YES)
2) Is it possible to take pictures focusing at infinity in normal mode? Likely but with some problems. (see below)
3) Is it possible to take pictures focusing at infinity in live view mode (mirror locked up)? YES with problems (mirror wont go down unless you unscrew the lens)
4) Is it possible to take pictures focusing at distances other than infinity? (Yes but the mirror will only go up, there's no going down.)
5) Specify the type of adapter used and it's origin (Hong Kong manufacturer) _________________ http://www.pictures-of-a-lifetime.com (now with a newsletter so you can keep track of the new pictures being added)
Body:
40D
Lenses:
AF
Sigma 18-200 F3.5-6.3 DC OS
MF
Asahi Super Takumar 50/1.4
ISCO - Gottingen - BEROLINA TELE WESTANAR 135/3.5
CZ Flektogon 25/4
WELTBLICK Auto Tele 135/2.8
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Barata
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 223 Location: Ovar - Portugal
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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Barata wrote:
I'll be selling my MF lenses _________________ http://www.pictures-of-a-lifetime.com (now with a newsletter so you can keep track of the new pictures being added)
Body:
40D
Lenses:
AF
Sigma 18-200 F3.5-6.3 DC OS
MF
Asahi Super Takumar 50/1.4
ISCO - Gottingen - BEROLINA TELE WESTANAR 135/3.5
CZ Flektogon 25/4
WELTBLICK Auto Tele 135/2.8
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