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Katastrofo
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:51 am Post subject: Epson 4490 scans (Oly 35RC) |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Finally set up the Epson 4490 scanner. This is scanned at 2400 dpi and
using Digital Ice. Film was Fujicolor 400.
Bill |
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Orio
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:54 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Are you happy Bill?
I think you should be, these are very good scans.
Now next good thing you should do, is get Noise Ninja.
It does not cost much, and it's the best tool for noise.
With the 4490 + Noise Ninja, you are set for a long time.
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:58 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Yes, I believe I'm happy with this scanner! This is a smaller scanner than
my 2450 and fits better on my desktop. I have Noise Ninja plugin with
my PS Elements 4.0, but used CS3 for PP on these.
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 3:37 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Here's one more in both color and bw:
I've edited with pics using Neat Image which seems a little better. I
still will be getting Noise Ninja, but am curious as to what version most
of you guys use.(?) I don't like the loss of detail Neat Image does, maybe
it does a better job with the paid version.
My Noise Ninja plugin is just a trial version and ends up with a grid over
it. Noise Ninja's little way of telling me to pony up or bugger off!
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 9:27 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Burning the midnight oil, well 3 hours past midnight:
This is scanning in pro mode, dust removal, 1200dpi, and converted to
black and white.
Bill |
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:36 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
My personal experience is, do not use dust removal while scanning, it's best to do that afterwards with a dedicated plugin.
The image quality of the scanner is good as you can see, it will not be like a dedicated film scanner but I think it's decidedly above average for a flatbed scanner. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Thanks, Orio,
I guess it boils down to I need to experiment more. I'll leave off the
dust removal next time. I didn't use USM during the scanning process,
either.
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bob955i
Joined: 15 Apr 2007 Posts: 2495
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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bob955i wrote:
@ Bill:
Pony up for NN - it makes a huge difference and is well worth having. You can download profiles for your camera, create your own profile or have the program analyse each image individually.
I still use my old Minolta DiMage 7i and it completely transforms the images I get from that cam.
I'd be happy with the IQ of those scans by the way. |
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Thanks, Bob. Should I get the deluxe $79.95 package (pro version) or
the home version? Curious as to which one you guys have.
Bill |
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Orio
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
I have the Pro Bundle, because of the 16 bit processing.
Do not make the mistake of getting standard version, it is only 8 bit and your images will suffer from it, especially the digital images.
Pro costs more but 16 bit is 16 bit.
By the way, I really hate this widespread mania of calling software versions "Pro". It's like saying "if you can not afford the best version, you are an unworthy photographer". _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
I thought that was the version you used, just wanted to make sure.
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 6:22 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Here's one of my older pics of the boxter series that was never scanned:
I can see the "Michelin" on the rear tire just fine. I think these little cams
like Kodak 200 film.
This was scanned at 2400dpi.
Bill
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Orio
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:13 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
wow Bill!
The right lens-film-scanner combination can get very close to digital quality.
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bob955i
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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bob955i wrote:
It's the "Pro" version I have too Bill - for the same reason as Orio in that it supports 16 bit processing.
And that is one damn good scan.... |
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Laurence
Joined: 26 Mar 2007 Posts: 4809 Location: Western Washington State
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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Laurence wrote:
I am impressed by the 4490. It is cleaner, much cleaner than my Epson 2450.
The scan of the Boxster is magnificent. You are getting your money's worth, and it turns out this is a GREAT buy you made. _________________
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
@Bob, thanks for the kind words and info.
Larry, yes, this last scan really showed me the difference between the
2450 and the 4490. And for $86 including shipping, is a steal! This scanner
is noticeably smaller and lighter than the 2450, cooler looking, too. I
didn't use anything but USM in this scan, which some people have advised
to do USM in CS3/Photoshop. But I've seen people advise using USM in
scanning on some photo.net forums as well. Scans are very fast at
2400dpi, much faster than the 2450.
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Orio
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
If you set it at 1200 it will also find the time to make you a Moka coffee _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Orio wrote: |
If you set it at 1200 it will also find the time to make you a Moka coffee |
Umm-ummm, luv a good kafe mocha!
Bill |
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themoleman342
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Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 1:11 am Post subject: |
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themoleman342 wrote:
Any thoughts on the epson v500? I'm trying to cut down on film lab scanning costs...plus their scans have really not impressed me lately. I still don't have the money for a high-end slr dig and I still love film...so I thought this might be a good go-between.
Thanks in advance
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Orio
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Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 1:15 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
themoleman342 wrote: |
Any thoughts on the epson v500? |
I don't know the scanner, but reading the specs it seems to have all that it takes. Also it should come with Photoshop Elements 4 which is a good software if you don't have Photoshop already. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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themoleman342
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Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 1:19 am Post subject: |
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themoleman342 wrote:
I use a program called GIMP...not sure if it has been mentioned in this forum before or if anyone has used it. It's a very very good free photo editing software. It's a tad clunky in operation but all the features are there. It has been described as the "free photoshop."
I recommend trying it out...at least for kicks. |
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Orio
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Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 1:29 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Photoshop Elements 4 has an important advantage over GIMP, it supports 16 bit depth colours editing. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 4:50 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
The Epson V500 has impressive performance. If Epson didn't have this
sale on the 4490, that is the scanner I probably would have gotten.
Here's an example of a 35mm scan, but view his other samples as well:
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=665627#post665627
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themoleman342
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 12:54 am Post subject: |
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themoleman342 wrote:
well I will more than likely be buying the v500 in the next month or so, so I will definately get some of the pictures up soon (if not on here, than on flickr) |
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