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Spotmatic
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 Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 6:54 pm Post subject: 55mm f/1.8 S-M-C Takumar on 5D |
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Spotmatic wrote:
Today it was dreary cold, and I had no real inspiration, but I'm posting the pictures anyway 
Why the 55mm f/1.8? Because it is a superb lens, cheap, and can be used on the 5D from ininity to the MFD without any modification to either the lens or the camera.
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Stunning presentation ! All are just simple very, very good images.
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poilu wrote:
impressive! and without inspiration !
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Spotmatic
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Spotmatic wrote:
Yes, the Tak guided me, I did nothing
Thanks guys. I think they are looking better now. Maybe I just did not like them too much because I knew how cold it was in reality.
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My fast 80s: Asahi-Kogaku Takumar 83mm f/1.9 - Super-Takumar 85mm f/1.9 - FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited - Cyclop 85/1.5 (Helios-40 innards) - Komura 80mm f/1.8 - Meyer Görlitz Primoplan 7,5cm 1:1.9 - Carl Zeiss Jena 80mm f/1.8 Pancolar - Canon 85mm f/1.8 S.S.C. - Canon 85mm f/1.2 S.S.C. Aspherical |
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Cracking Possibly the best value fast+normal lens out there!
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Spotmatic
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| Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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Spotmatic wrote:
| ManualFocus-G wrote: |
| Cracking Possibly the best value fast+normal lens out there! |
Absolutely. Everyone is concentrating on the 50mm f/1.4 S-M-C Takumar but in reality the 55/1.8 is probably the better lens of the two. I cannot think of valid reasons to NOT get one.
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Pentax K-5 + Pentax 645 + Canon 5D + Bessa RF 10,5cm Heliar, and a 'little' bag full of MF lenses. The lens list is * here *.
My fast 80s: Asahi-Kogaku Takumar 83mm f/1.9 - Super-Takumar 85mm f/1.9 - FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited - Cyclop 85/1.5 (Helios-40 innards) - Komura 80mm f/1.8 - Meyer Görlitz Primoplan 7,5cm 1:1.9 - Carl Zeiss Jena 80mm f/1.8 Pancolar - Canon 85mm f/1.8 S.S.C. - Canon 85mm f/1.2 S.S.C. Aspherical |
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ManualFocus-G
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| Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
| Spotmatic wrote: |
| ManualFocus-G wrote: |
| Cracking Possibly the best value fast+normal lens out there! |
Absolutely. Everyone is concentrating on the 50mm f/1.4 S-M-C Takumar but in reality the 55/1.8 is probably the better lens of the two. I cannot think of valid reasons to NOT get one. |
I actually sold mine and kept the 55/2, because...in low light the camera metered them the same wide open  
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| Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 3:33 am Post subject: 55 f1.8 and 55 f2 |
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jmiro wrote:
| Spotmatic wrote: |
| Everyone is concentrating on the 50mm f/1.4 S-M-C Takumar but in reality the 55/1.8 is probably the better lens of the two. I cannot think of valid reasons to NOT get one. |
Everyone should remember that the Takumar 55 f1.8 and 55 f2 as well as the first bayonet K versions are the same lens and that the f2 was in no way inferior samples or a different lens but simply produced as an f2 for marketing purposes.
However with the later M and A series Pentax had 50 f1.7s and 50 f2s. The f1.7 had the same lens scheme as the 55 f1.8 and f2s but the 50 f2 was a different lens scheme and produces generally inferior results especially at the wider apertures in comparison to all the others mentioned. |
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martinsmith99
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| Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 7:07 am Post subject: Re: 55mm f/1.8 S-M-C Takumar on 5D |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
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Why the 55mm f/1.8? Because it is a superb lens, cheap, and can be used on the 5D from ininity to the MFD without any modification to either the lens or the camera.
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So can the 50mm F1.4. It's now my favourite 50mm on the 5D mkii as my previous favourite the Helios 44-2 hits the mirror.
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Spotmatic
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| Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 7:17 am Post subject: Re: 55 f1.8 and 55 f2 |
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Spotmatic wrote:
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| Spotmatic wrote: |
| Everyone is concentrating on the 50mm f/1.4 S-M-C Takumar but in reality the 55/1.8 is probably the better lens of the two. I cannot think of valid reasons to NOT get one. |
Everyone should remember that the Takumar 55 f1.8 and 55 f2 as well as the first bayonet K versions are the same lens and that the f2 was in no way inferior samples or a different lens but simply produced as an f2 for marketing purposes.
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Indeed; an internal "waterhouse stop" was added to reach the f/2. Pretty interesting, as the f/2 version was thus more expensive to make (more parts than the f/1.8 version).
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However with the later M and A series Pentax had 50 f1.7s and 50 f2s. The f1.7 had the same lens scheme as the 55 f1.8 and f2s but the 50 f2 was a different lens scheme and produces generally inferior results especially at the wider apertures in comparison to all the others mentioned. |
Interesting, thanks for sharing.
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My fast 80s: Asahi-Kogaku Takumar 83mm f/1.9 - Super-Takumar 85mm f/1.9 - FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited - Cyclop 85/1.5 (Helios-40 innards) - Komura 80mm f/1.8 - Meyer Görlitz Primoplan 7,5cm 1:1.9 - Carl Zeiss Jena 80mm f/1.8 Pancolar - Canon 85mm f/1.8 S.S.C. - Canon 85mm f/1.2 S.S.C. Aspherical |
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Spotmatic
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| Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 7:19 am Post subject: Re: 55mm f/1.8 S-M-C Takumar on 5D |
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Spotmatic wrote:
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Why the 55mm f/1.8? Because it is a superb lens, cheap, and can be used on the 5D from ininity to the MFD without any modification to either the lens or the camera.
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So can the 50mm F1.4. It's now my favourite 50mm on the 5D mkii as my previous favourite the Helios 44-2 hits the mirror. |
I think the MkII has a slightly shorter mirror, so you're less likely to have problems? I have sold my 50/1.4 so I cannot test it anymore on the MkI. I do still have the SMC Pentax 50/1.4 though (optically the same).
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Pentax K-5 + Pentax 645 + Canon 5D + Bessa RF 10,5cm Heliar, and a 'little' bag full of MF lenses. The lens list is * here *.
My fast 80s: Asahi-Kogaku Takumar 83mm f/1.9 - Super-Takumar 85mm f/1.9 - FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited - Cyclop 85/1.5 (Helios-40 innards) - Komura 80mm f/1.8 - Meyer Görlitz Primoplan 7,5cm 1:1.9 - Carl Zeiss Jena 80mm f/1.8 Pancolar - Canon 85mm f/1.8 S.S.C. - Canon 85mm f/1.2 S.S.C. Aspherical |
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pich900 wrote:
For sure a great lens, unbelievable sharp and with nice rendering!
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So the SMC 55 f/1.8 and the SMC 55 f/2 are as good as the SMC 50 f/1.4 or better. I almost bought a 55 f/1.8 but didn't think it would be as good as the 50 f/1.4 I already had. If you were going out to shoot and had the f/1.8 version setting beside the f/2 version which would you take? I think I need one of these.
The samples you posted look very nice.
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Spotmatic
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Spotmatic wrote:
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So the SMC 55 f/1.8 and the SMC 55 f/2 are as good as the SMC 50 f/1.4 or better. I almost bought a 55 f/1.8 but didn't think it would be as good as the 50 f/1.4 I already had. If you were going out to shoot and had the f/1.8 version setting beside the f/2 version which would you take? I think I need one of these.
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Well, the f/2 and f/1.8 version are exactly the same, but the f/2 version has an added light baffle to cut off the f/1.8 optics to f/2. So... That was Pentax's way to create a "cheaper" kit lens. Only with the SMC Pentax-M 50mm f/2 the design was different from the f/1.7 version. So, you cannot go wrong with either the f/2 or f/1.8 versions of the Takumar.
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| The samples you posted look very nice. |
Thanks!
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My fast 80s: Asahi-Kogaku Takumar 83mm f/1.9 - Super-Takumar 85mm f/1.9 - FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited - Cyclop 85/1.5 (Helios-40 innards) - Komura 80mm f/1.8 - Meyer Görlitz Primoplan 7,5cm 1:1.9 - Carl Zeiss Jena 80mm f/1.8 Pancolar - Canon 85mm f/1.8 S.S.C. - Canon 85mm f/1.2 S.S.C. Aspherical |
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Schnauzer wrote:
Thanks for the confirmation. I appreciate it.
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koji wrote:
FYI
SMC PENTAX 55/2 was never sold in Japan, it was an export only model.
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Actually, the 2/55 version will be probably slightly sharper wide-open than the 1.8/55 version 
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