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Cheap wide angle M42 for my 5D?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 4:26 pm    Post subject: Cheap wide angle M42 for my 5D? Reply with quote

I have a 5D Classic, and a 50mm 1.8 + a 70-200mm, and therefore I am in the need of a wide angle lens for some landscape stuff. What I need is something like 28mm or wider that won't hit the mirror on infinity focus, and will hopefully cost less than $200. Optical quality is not the most important aspect here, I just want something that does wide angle.

What are my alternatives?


PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know about the mirror clearance problem, but I have a Takumar 28 f3.5which is very good, a Pentacon 30 f3.5 which is cheap and glorious - highly recommended, and a Travenar 28 f2.8 which is mediocre.
I've just remembered my Soligor 35 f3.5, which isn't as wide but still an ok lens, again it was very cheap.

I paid about £3 UK for the Pentacon in mint condition and I use it a great deal, the colour rendition is wonderful and it's quite sharp. Great for landscape.
It was part of the kit with Praktica camera's over here so it's everywhere and cheap.


PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

+1 for Pentacon


PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yashinon DS-M 35mm 1:2.8 (quite rare, though)


PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a Meyer Optik Goerlitz 29/2.8 which gives reasonable images. I use it on my 5D Mk1 with no problems. They are inexpensive - I think I paid less than £30. I believe that there is a pentacon version too. For example HERE.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vivitar Auto Wide-Angle 2.5/28 (Kiron)
Vivitar Auto Wide-Angle 2.8/28 (Komine)

= dead cheap, but still good!

Tamron 2.5/24 BBAR MC 01B (with M42 rear part)
Tamron 2.5/28 BBAR MC 02B (with M42 rear part)

= even better than the Vivs but a little more expensive.

Another option would be a Petri 2.8/28 MC Macro. Also very cheap, normally.

With US$ 200,- you should be able to find both Tamrons, the 24 and the 28!
Or the Tamron 2.5/24 plus the Vivitar 2.5/28.


PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Chinon 35mm/2.8 M42 lens marked on the front ring as made in Japan is very nice.

See http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/lensgallery/japanese/chinon/chinon_35mm_f2_8.JPG.html


PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

$200.00 is a lot of money for an old lens. Why M42? You could get a nice Yashica ML 28/2.8 or Olympus Zuiko or Nikkor and adapter for half of that...


PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ManualFocus-G wrote:
Why M42? You could get a nice Yashica ML 28/2.8 or Olympus Zuiko or Nikkor and adapter for half of that...

+1 and most of them better than M42 lenses.


PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would suggest the Adaptall-2 Tamron SP 24mm f/2.5

Regards.
Jes.


PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

+1 on the Vivitar recommendations - add the TX 28/2.5 as well to the list - these are cheap and cheerful and solid performers, and available in various mounts (so you can pick the most convenient or cheapest)...

+1 on the Tamron Adaptall-2 lenses as well; I have a 01bb 24 and it's very nice indeed. Again, you can get the adapter that is most convenient/cheapest... just note that the adaptall-2 M42 pieces do not have auto/manual switches.

+1 on the Takumar 28/3.5 - a sweet lens indeed.

and +1 on the suggestion of Zuiko or Nikkor... though perhaps you're looking at standardizing on a single adapter?


PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go for the Zuiko 28mm f3.5 - superbly sharp if you don't need the speed.


PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

+1 more for the Vivitars. I like the Komine versions best. The cheapo 2.8/28 is really superb, a true hidden gem. Sample images in this thread:
http://forum.mflenses.com/vivitar-komine-mc-close-focus-28-2-8-t9346,highlight,%2Bvivitar.html


PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ensinor (also sold as Clubman) F2.8 24mm. Amazingly cheap but very good.


PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ManualFocus-G wrote:
$200.00 is a lot of money for an old lens. Why M42? You could get a nice Yashica ML 28/2.8 or Olympus Zuiko or Nikkor and adapter for half of that...

+1 The Yashica ML is one you should try and I have heard very good things about the Zuiko and Nikkor (AI-s) equivalents.

Vivitar should be 2nd choice IMO.


PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ManualFocus-G wrote:
$200.00 is a lot of money for an old lens. Why M42? You could get a nice Yashica ML 28/2.8 or Olympus Zuiko or Nikkor and adapter for half of that...


+2 The Nikkor 24/2.8 can be had for a lot less than that if you look around and don't want a mint copy. It's an amazing lens. For cheap I'd recommend the Pentacon/Meyer 30 as well, I haven't tried the 29mm but from what I've seen and read it outperforms it and should cost about the same if not slightly less.


PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

+ for the Chinon 2,8/28mm, S-Tak 3,5/28 , Tamron 2,5/28 , and Tokina Rmc 2,8/28 mm... Smile


PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Helios wrote:
+ for the Chinon 2,8/28mm, S-Tak 3,5/28 , Tamron 2,5/28 , and Tokina Rmc 2,8/28 mm... Smile

I had an RMC 24mm Tokina and it was pretty horrible.


PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Olympus Zuiko 28/2.8 (MC) or 28/3.5 (single-coated) are both great wide-angles. The 24/2.8 (get the latest one that says just "Zuiko" without the letter prefix) is superb. Zero clearance problems. These two Zuikos are probably your best bet in getting the highest quality albeit cheap wide angle.

Nikkor Ai, AIS 28/3.5 and Nikkor AIS 28/2.8 are both great. No mirror clearance problems. Note that non-Ai 28/3.5 *will not mount* due to the protruding metal part on the mount. I filed off a few mm, and it works fine, but getting an Ai or AIS lens is recommended. Not necessarily better than Olympus, but almost certainly more expensive.

Zeiss Distagon 28/2.8 is superb. Both AE and MM versions I tried are OK with the mirror. Expensive!

Yashica ML 28/2.8 *may* hit the mirror at infinity depending on the adapter used (will certainly hit with cheap ones). Some samples clear the mirror and some don't; I tried two, both hit at infinity with cheap adapters but not with expensive ones. Cheap but uncertain.

SMC Takumar 28/3.5 *may* hit the mirror at infinity with most adapters (some samples don't). Again, cheap but uncertain.


PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In case you're looking for a Yashica ML 24mm ...

http://www.mflenses.com/mfl-ebay/Yashica-ML-24mm-1-2.8.html