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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 5:55 pm Post subject: Minolta Dual Scan II |
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Attila wrote:
I won on this scanner on low price. I expect better result than from my Epson V500. Any experience ? _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Katastrofo
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10405 Location: USA
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Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
I'll try it with some slide scans I recently did with my flatbed for comparison.
a little blurb:
http://www.ask.com/bar?q=minolta+scan+dual+ii&page=1&qsrc=121&dm=all&ab=0&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.scantips.com%2Fdual2.html&sg=wG8Sm%2BWlC9OGD5PbJ0jFIZZm1hmIPAlraOqNx28misI%3D&tsp=1269551115479
If I like this a lot, maybe you won't have any experience, maybe next
time. Just kiddin'! |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
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Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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paperinik
Joined: 11 Jan 2009 Posts: 100 Location: Adro, italy
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Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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paperinik wrote:
I also own V500 + scandual II. Compared to V500 it's a better option for 35mm scanning.
The only limit is that it's a little bit soft, but a kind of softness easy to fix with gimp tools.
Here is some sample:
BW shot with fuji 1600, slides thanks to Velvia Power© |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Many thanks! _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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aoleg
Joined: 22 Feb 2008 Posts: 1387 Location: Berlin, DE
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Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:24 am Post subject: |
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aoleg wrote:
I have this scanner, too. It's an old model and is not perfect, but OK if bought inexpensively. First, you *might* have trouble connecting it via a USB port to your PC. I mean, it may occasionally hang in the middle of scanning. This can happen if your motherboard has NVIDIA nForce chipset. Solution: an add-on PCI USB2 card. Another thing, this scanner does not have an infrared dust/scratch removal technology; a PITA when scanning color film (won't matter for black and white as the tech doesn't work with silver-based films). Other than that, I used Vuescan instead of the bundled crapware.
The scanner itself is *very* sharp. At least the scratches it scans could not appear any sharper. Any softness other users experience may be user error (during shooting, developing film, or scanning). _________________ List of lenses |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 10:45 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Many thanks for good advices! _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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paperinik
Joined: 11 Jan 2009 Posts: 100 Location: Adro, italy
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Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 10:04 am Post subject: |
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paperinik wrote:
aoleg wrote: |
The scanner itself is *very* sharp. At least the scratches it scans could not appear any sharper. Any softness other users experience may be user error (during shooting, developing film, or scanning). |
Mmmh if so I think that mine might have some focus issue, since in my case the scratch also aren't super-sharp. No matter how much I try with manual focus.
Consider that I've also tried with a test photo, taking a picture if my monitor with a sonnar 200/2,8, well stopped down to f:8 with fuji velvia. When I project to the wall it's easy to see every single dot, while is not possible with the scans. Consider the photo of the motorcycle posted above, it's killer sharp even projected at 150 cm wide, while scanned you are waching already the maximum magnification possible without losing some detail.
So every time, when I edit the image I've to choose if keep sharp edges or the fine texture in the shadows, thats too bad.
Can someone post some sample got with the scandual II?
Thanks |
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aoleg
Joined: 22 Feb 2008 Posts: 1387 Location: Berlin, DE
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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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aoleg wrote:
Posting these 100% crops of full-resolution scans. The pictures themselves aren't sharp (slightly misfocused pictures shot with Helios-44-2 on old Soviet films hardly ever produce stunning sharpness), but look at the scratches
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paperinik
Joined: 11 Jan 2009 Posts: 100 Location: Adro, italy
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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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paperinik wrote:
Mmmh no, my scanner can't do that.
Do you think that is time to open it an clean something? |
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Excalibur
Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 5017 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
Dunno if this is useful:-
http://largeformatphotography.info/scan-comparison/ _________________ Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
.........past gear Tele Rolleiflex and Rollei SL66.
Many lenses from good to excellent. |
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Schnauzer
Joined: 09 Apr 2008 Posts: 2155 Location: Maine, USA
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 12:41 am Post subject: |
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Schnauzer wrote:
Will it work with windows vista? _________________ Ron |
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IANUS
Joined: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 276 Location: Germany
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 8:42 am Post subject: |
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IANUS wrote:
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Will it work with windows vista? |
If you have Vuescan it should since it uses its own scanner driver.
I have a Minolta Scan Elite 5400 which is a newer model but there are no supported minolta drivers for Vista or Win 7.
Anyway with Vuescan the minolta scanner works with Windows 7 without problems. I even managed to get an old Canon 2700F Scsi scanner to work with Win 7. |
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aoleg
Joined: 22 Feb 2008 Posts: 1387 Location: Berlin, DE
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 9:55 am Post subject: |
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aoleg wrote:
paperinik wrote: |
Mmmh no, my scanner can't do that.
Do you think that is time to open it an clean something? |
I don't think you can make it better. Worse, maybe, but not better. I would try Vuescan and focusing before every frame, but that's about all you can do. _________________ List of lenses |
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Schnauzer
Joined: 09 Apr 2008 Posts: 2155 Location: Maine, USA
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:43 am Post subject: |
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Schnauzer wrote:
IANUS wrote: |
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Will it work with windows vista? |
If you have Vuescan it should since it uses its own scanner driver.
I have a Minolta Scan Elite 5400 which is a newer model but there are no supported minolta drivers for Vista or Win 7.
Anyway with Vuescan the minolta scanner works with Windows 7 without problems. I even managed to get an old Canon 2700F Scsi scanner to work with Win 7. |
Thanks. I never thought of that. _________________ Ron |
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yinyangbt
Joined: 08 Oct 2010 Posts: 1973 Location: Romania
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:43 am Post subject: |
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yinyangbt wrote:
WEll , hello , Attila, any updates ?
I am curious, being myself in the process of aquirind a III model _________________ Cheers , Teo
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I did use a few times I prefer Epson V500, it has better software than Minolta have it. Epson V500 faster it is scan 12 frames at same time. Overall I like Epson better so I am selling Dual Scan now. If you use Vuescan and adjust it frame by frame Dual Scan can be better I think. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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ludoo
Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Posts: 1397 Location: Milan, Italy
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Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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ludoo wrote:
I have the same scanner, and recently posted a comparison of the same negative scanned with a Plustek 7400, an Epson 4490, and the ScanDual II. The ScanDual works very well with VueScan, and while it's slightly softer than the Plustek, it's much sharper than the Epson, and a light touch of USM will make scans really sharp.
Here are the images I posted in the other thread, the order is Plustek/Minolta/Epson.
Full frame
100% crop, no USM
100% crop, USM in Gimp (Plustek and MInolta 1.5/1/3, Epson 2/1.5/3)
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Past Digital: Samsung NX10, Sigma SD9, Sigma SD10, SD14, DP2, Pentax *istD, Kx, Fuji S2 Pro, Canon 5D
Analog: packfilm Polaroids, 6x9 Kodak folders, Pentacon Taxona half-frame, Fujica ST605n, Walz Envoy, Olympus 35 S-II, Olympus Wide S
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Past Lenses: Nikkor 24/2.8, Nikkor SC 50/1.4, Nikkor 50/2, Nikkor H 85/1.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5, Nikkor Q 135/3.5, Fujinon 100/2.8, Fujinon EBC 100/2.8, Fujinon EBC 135/3.5, Fujinon EBC 200/4.5, Mamiya SX 135/2.8, CZJ Flektogon 35/2.4, CZJ Pancolar 50/1.8 zebra, CZJ Sonnar 135/3.5, ...
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yinyangbt
Joined: 08 Oct 2010 Posts: 1973 Location: Romania
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Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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yinyangbt wrote:
Thenk you for the replies.
I just won a Dual scan III on Ebay , I am waiting it to come in a week ,maybe. I know the software is kinda crap ,but plan to give it a try.If it doesn't fit , I'll go VueScan or maybe Silverfast _________________ Cheers , Teo
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ludoo
Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Posts: 1397 Location: Milan, Italy
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Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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ludoo wrote:
VueScan is very good and not too expensive, especially the non-pro version. _________________ My galleries
Digital: Samsung EX-1
Past Digital: Samsung NX10, Sigma SD9, Sigma SD10, SD14, DP2, Pentax *istD, Kx, Fuji S2 Pro, Canon 5D
Analog: packfilm Polaroids, 6x9 Kodak folders, Pentacon Taxona half-frame, Fujica ST605n, Walz Envoy, Olympus 35 S-II, Olympus Wide S
Past Analog: Polaroid 600se, Polaroid 110B, Canon IIF, various fixed-lens and Russian rangefinders, ...
Past Lenses: Nikkor 24/2.8, Nikkor SC 50/1.4, Nikkor 50/2, Nikkor H 85/1.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5, Nikkor Q 135/3.5, Fujinon 100/2.8, Fujinon EBC 100/2.8, Fujinon EBC 135/3.5, Fujinon EBC 200/4.5, Mamiya SX 135/2.8, CZJ Flektogon 35/2.4, CZJ Pancolar 50/1.8 zebra, CZJ Sonnar 135/3.5, ...
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