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Orio
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Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:54 am Post subject: Elisa - various lenses |
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Orio wrote:
A preview from the photo session of yesterday:
of course everything is in order (like with all the models I use, I have her written consent for publication).
I love my P 1.2/85. You may never know what comes out of it. It's a daily surprise. With it, I need to fight my attitude of just using the lenses,
and baby-sit it with ultra care. In fact, it makes me a bit nervous every time I take it out, but, it never makes me regret it afterwards.
P.S. wide open. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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patrickh
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Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 4:09 am Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
Dreamy. Bit soft?
patrickh _________________ DSLR: Nikon D300 Nikon D200 Nex 5N
MF Zooms: Kiron 28-85/3.5, 28-105/3.2, 75-150/3.5, Nikkor 50-135/3.5 AIS // MF Primes: Nikkor 20/4 AI, 24/2 AI, 28/2 AI, 28/2.8 AIS, 28/3.5 AI, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 AIS, 35/2.8 PC, 45/2.8 P, 50/1.4 AIS, 50/1.8 AIS, 50/2 AI, 55/2.8 AIS micro, 55/3.5 AI micro, 85/2 AI, 100/2,8 E, 105/1,8 AIS, 105/2,5 AIS, 135/2 AIS, 135/2.8 AIS, 200/4 AI, 200/4 AIS micro, 300/4.5 AI, 300/4.5 AI ED, Arsat 50/1.4, Kiron 28/2, Vivitar 28/2.5, Panagor 135/2.8, Tamron 28/2.5, Tamron 90/2.5 macro, Vivitar 90/2.5 macro (Tokina) Voigtlander 90/3.5 Vivitar 105/2.5 macro (Kiron) Kaleinar 100/2.8 AI Tamron 135/2.5, Vivitar 135/2.8CF, 200/3.5, Tokina 400/5,6
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RF: Industar 53/2.8, Jupiter 8 50/2
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Orio
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Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 4:12 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
patrickh wrote: |
Dreamy. Bit soft?
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I slightly front-focused. It's very hard to focus a 1.2/85 wide open and I didn't have the time to adjust.
But I like the pose, so I kept it. To heck with the focus _________________ Orio, Administrator
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poilu
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Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 6:23 am Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
the composition is great and the girl beautiful
clever idea those hairs extensions! _________________ T* |
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pich900
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Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:02 am Post subject: |
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pich900 wrote:
poilu wrote: |
the composition is great and the girl beautiful
clever idea those hairs extensions! |
+1
the focus seems to be on the hands (and not on the beautifull eyes !), it's a shame but I can imagine how difficult it could be to get the right focus at f1.2 and 85mm ..... _________________ All my lenses are for sale, nikkor, Angenieux, Zeiss etc.....
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Himself
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Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 10:06 am Post subject: |
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Himself wrote:
Yep, focus on hands. Left hand fingers.
And the eyes are moving asymmetrically. The right one is closer to the corner of the eye than the left one.
But I like it. _________________ Moderator Himself |
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dude163
Joined: 21 Mar 2010 Posts: 726 Location: New Brunswick , Canada
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Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 11:48 am Post subject: |
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dude163 wrote:
Great shot! _________________ Stormtrooper white Pentax K-X m42 adapter
Soviets: Helios 44m-6 and 40-1 , Pentacon 50mm f1.8
Taks : ST 28mm f3.5 , ST 35mm f3.5, SMC 50mm f1.4 , ST 55mm f2 , SMC 135 f 3.5 , ST 200 f 4
CZJ Tessar 50/2.8 1954 model
Leica m8u : Rigid cron 50/2 Elmar 90/4 Elmarit 135/2.8 Jupiter8 50/2 Serenar 85/2
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Orio
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Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Thanks guys
pich900 wrote: |
it's a shame but I can imagine how difficult it could be to get the right focus at f1.2 and 85mm ..... |
Yes, especially when the model is moving almost constantly. During these workshops, there are from 3 to 5 photographers at a time. The model holds the pose for you for just a few seconds, then turns to another photographer. This means you don't have a second chance at the same pose. Usually what I do is to set the lens at or around f/4, this makes up for slightly missed focusing. But I always give wide open shots a chance: you miss many, but when you get one you are usually rewarded. The problem is that when focusing at f/1.2, with this lens, which is out-of-the-world sharp (Woeltche, the designer, defined it "astral"), you get a super sharp focus plane even at wide open, but as soon as you move off the FP, the transition into total blur is almost immediate (and stronger the closer you are to the subject of course).
Paradoxically, if I used a cheaper and less sharp f/1.2 lens, I would have obtained a more homogeneous result, with nothing really in focus. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Attila
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Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
poilu wrote: |
the composition is great and the girl beautiful
clever idea those hairs extensions! |
+1 _________________ -------------------------------
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Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Orio
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Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Here's another one, with better focus. Lens is Planar 1.4/85 (Contax).
You can see how different it renders compared to 1.2/85. I like both, really. They serve different moods and purposes.
As I side note: I used the ColorChecker Passport with this production. Took a checker shot at the beginning of the day and one WB shot at each change of the lights. Hard to say in words how happy I am about the colour checker and lightroom plugin. Before, i could never obtain perfect tones from tungsten lighting. The problem being that white balance alone can not do it if you are using a generic camera profile. You need to recalibrate the camera colour profile under the lighting conditions. Once you do, you get so beautiful tones. They look so good and professional. The best 85 Euros I spent lately. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
You can't go wrong with such a model, I like both photos, excellent comps!
Looking forward to more in the series... |
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Orio
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Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Katastrofo wrote: |
You can't go wrong with such a model, I like both photos, excellent comps! |
Thanks! I am happy with the compositions, although the set was quite limited (but next time I will bring with me some accessories).
The model is not quite experienced in glamour, she is mostly a fashion model. She is very good in posing the body but she can improve in face expression compared to older models like Anna or Tatiana, who can really meow, purr and growl at the camera She's very young, still a student. So I followed my own advice and tried to play with her shiness, making of it a compositional element (hence the hands playing with the hair et c.)
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Looking forward to more in the series... |
Ok. I will make of her my squirrel of the day _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Orio wrote: |
Ok. I will make of her my squirrel of the day |
Fantastic idea! |
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Orio
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Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Another one, this time taken with the Planar 2/100 Contax.
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Attila, we need a pulsing green envy emoticon!
Of course I like the last shot, what's not to like? The colors in all these are
superb, yes, good investment of 85 Euros. |
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Nikos
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Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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Nikos wrote:
Orio wrote: |
Another one, this time taken with the Planar 2/100 Contax.
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You have all of the Planars, don't you?
The 1,2/85 is one of the ultra expensive anniversary editions?
Really nice skin tones, even for a (color) blind person like me
Consider also a WB lens cap for outdoors. It is so easy to use, and does wonders if you aim at the right light source. _________________ Νίκος • www.diafragma.gr
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Zeiss 2/135 Contax, Zeiss 2.8/135 Contax, Zeiss Vario-Sonnar 35-70 Contax, Zeiss Vario-Sonnar 100-300 Contax, Zeiss F-Distagon Rollei, Canon FD 24mm f2, Minolta MD Rokkor 35mm f2.8
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Zeiss 4.5/21 C Biogon ZM, Zeiss 2/35 Biogon ZM, Voigtländer 15mm f/4.5 Heliar L39, Leica Tele-Elmarit 2.8/90mm, Zeiss 2/45 Contax G, Zeiss 2.8/90 Contax G, Canon 50mm 1.8 LTM
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Orio
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Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Katastrofo wrote: |
Attila, we need a pulsing green envy emoticon!
Of course I like the last shot, what's not to like? The colors in all these are
superb, yes, good investment of 85 Euros. |
That really makes a difference. I will show you and everyone a default (i.e. unedited) RAW picture with the camera default colour profile and with my personalized colour profile.
It's funny, many of us are ready to spend money on cameras and lenses but reluctant to buy such an accessory. Yet it's one that can make the difference in your photos. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Looking forward to the comparisons and will Google Colorchecker Passport.
So, this is it?
http://www.amazon.com/X-Rite-MSCCPP-ColorChecker-Passport/dp/B002NU5UW8
looking at the number of gold stars, people seem to like it |
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Orio
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Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
nkanellopoulos wrote: |
You have all of the Planars, don't you? |
Most
I am missing the 1.2/55, but it's way too expensive even for a crazy man like me.
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The 1,2/85 is one of the ultra expensive anniversary editions? |
It is. It has to be, because the lens exists only as anniversary edition.
nkanellopoulos wrote: |
Really nice skin tones, even for a (color) blind person like me
Consider also a WB lens cap for outdoors. It is so easy to use, and does wonders if you aim at the right light source. |
I have them, I bought them some time ago in all the more common sizes.
I have to say, they can be useful sure if one shoots JPG, or, if one does not have a good RAW editor.
But, if you have an editor like Lightroom, that with a click lets you apply the white balance of one file to the whole bunch of pictures, those caps are not useful anymore, because it is more accurate to take a shot of a balanced (i.e. accurate) white or 18% grey card and apply it to all the files in lightroom. Of course, in all cases (caps and card), the basic rule applies that whenever there is a significant change in lighting conditions, you must take another card/cap picture. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Orio
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Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Yes, that's it.
Keep in mind that the software works only for Adobe raw programs (lightroom, camera raw).
You can also use the checker with other software, but you will have to prepare the profile manually.
The software is really fantastic, I was afraid of technical complications but there is none, even a child could use it. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 12:06 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Thanks, I'm putting this on Santa's list. |
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Orio
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Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 12:15 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Katastrofo wrote: |
Thanks, I'm putting this on Santa's list. |
Wise move! Stay online, I'll post the comparison images soon. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 12:23 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Kewl. |
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Himself
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Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 12:38 am Post subject: |
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Himself wrote:
Orio wrote: |
I am missing the 1.2/55,
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Orio, be carefully, it's hard enough to nail the focus with the 85/1.2 let alone a 55mm.
OTOH, how can you miss something that you've never had ? _________________ Moderator Himself |
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Orio
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Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 12:55 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Right enough, Sorin! That line reminds me of a James Taylor's song line, that goes "How come I miss what I never knew / and drag out the past just to paint it blue" _________________ Orio, Administrator
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