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Nordentro
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 Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 4:14 pm Post subject: Komura Koki Tokyo 135mm f:2.8 |
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Nordentro wrote:
I have a m42 Komura lens with a short serial No. 5113
This must be pretty old?
I count 20 blades 
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woodrim
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woodrim wrote:
Looks much different than mine, which is No.3247491. I like the f/2.8 better than the f/3.5. I see you now have both; how do you compare the two?
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luisalegria
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luisalegria wrote:
A. Yes its old; its from about 1955-1959 for sure. 1955 may be the earliest date I know of, as I believe its this lens that was listed as a "Coligon" in Seymours Exakta catalog.
B. This sinks my theory that this series of lenses was made by Fujita. They are definitely Komuras, you can't get more definitive evidence than this.
I am referring to the same lens sold as Soligor, Coligon, Peerotar, Spectra, etc.
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Nordentro
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| Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 11:49 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
| woodrim wrote: |
| Looks much different than mine, which is No.3247491. I like the f/2.8 better than the f/3.5. I see you now have both; how do you compare the two? |
I have a Komura 105mm f/2. The 135mm f/2.8 is a completely different lens, but I see some similarities in how the glass "renders" the pictures.
| luisalegria wrote: |
A. Yes its old; its from about 1955-1959 for sure. 1955 may be the earliest date I know of, as I believe its this lens that was listed as a "Coligon" in Seymours Exakta catalog.
B. This sinks my theory that this series of lenses was made by Fujita. They are definitely Komuras, you can't get more definitive evidence than this.
I am referring to the same lens sold as Soligor, Coligon, Peerotar, Spectra, etc. |
Interesting theory and conclusion, thx!
Difficult to answer this, but what can a decent price tag be on a lens like this?
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luisalegria
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luisalegria wrote:
This is still going to be a pretty cheap lens, even with a Komura name and the rarity factor - this is absolutely the earliest Komura I have seen, and the first of this type I have seen sold under its makers name.
The Soligors, etc. of this make regularly sell for @$20
If you advertise it well, maybe $30-40
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walter g
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walter g wrote:
| luisalegria wrote: |
A. Yes its old; its from about 1955-1959 for sure. 1955 may be the earliest date I know of, as I believe its this lens that was listed as a "Coligon" in Seymours Exakta catalog.
B. This sinks my theory that this series of lenses was made by Fujita. They are definitely Komuras, you can't get more definitive evidence than this.
I am referring to the same lens sold as Soligor, Coligon, Peerotar, Spectra, etc. |
I don't think this disproves your theory. I think two different manufactorers made similiar lenses.
http://forum.mflenses.com/fujita-the-forgotten-maker-t22482,highlight,juplen.html
This a link to your old thread. I think everyone but one is Fujita made.
The Soligor with the the writing around the rim on the rear row right corner, I believe is Komura made.
If I'm right the serial number dosen't start with the letter Y.
If it does I'm wrong. 
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Orio wrote:
20 blades, wow!
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luisalegria wrote:
The other 135/2.8 in that lineup (Peerotar) is precisely the same construction as the Soligor. They are identical internally, I have opened both side-by side. I even switched parts from one to the other - the Peerotar was M42 and the Soligor Exakta, I switched mounts. They fit perfectly.
So the maker must be the same.
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i love this lens!!
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woodrim wrote:
| Nordentro wrote: |
| woodrim wrote: |
| Looks much different than mine, which is No.3247491. I like the f/2.8 better than the f/3.5. I see you now have both; how do you compare the two? |
I have a Komura 105mm f/2. The 135mm f/2.8 is a completely different lens, but I see some similarities in how the glass "renders" the pictures.
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I had momentarily confused you with Luis, who has the f/3.5 version. I have both and prefer the f/2.8.
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Nordentro
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Nordentro wrote:
| luisalegria wrote: |
The other 135/2.8 in that lineup (Peerotar) is precisely the same construction as the Soligor. They are identical internally, I have opened both side-by side. I even switched parts from one to the other - the Peerotar was M42 and the Soligor Exakta, I switched mounts. They fit perfectly.
So the maker must be the same. |
Yes, it looks like my Komura is exactly the same as your Soligor
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