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darrenw
Joined: 27 Jul 2010 Posts: 47 Location: Richmond BC Canada
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Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:07 am Post subject: 5DmkII and Zeiss lenses...which ones |
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darrenw wrote:
Hi Gang,
It looks like my finances are about to take a swing in a positive direction (for a change) and I am seriously considering jumping in with both feet on some Zeiss lense when I get my 5DMkII.
So the question is which lenses would you consider the best of their breed, new or old?
I am considering the following
21/2.8 ZE
35/1.4 ZE
50/1.4 Planar ZE (or should I get the Makro-Planar f2?)
85/1.4 Planar ZE
As the ZE lenses are not cheap I want to consider all options. I will most likely obtain some older C/Y lenses but I seem to recall that there are various versions, could anyone that knows please point me in the direction of the better models? I was thinking of getting the 85/2.8 Sonnar but are there any others that you would recommend in place of the new ZE models?
Thanks! _________________ Take care.
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james
Joined: 25 Sep 2009 Posts: 308
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Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:39 am Post subject: Re: 5DmkII and Zeiss lenses...which ones |
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james wrote:
darrenw wrote: |
Hi Gang,
I am considering the following
21/2.8 ZE
35/1.4 ZE
50/1.4 Planar ZE (or should I get the Makro-Planar f2?)
85/1.4 Planar ZE
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Before you shell out sacs of Loonies, I strongly recommend the paid subscription to Lloyd Chambers' Zeiss Lens Reviews. It might provide you with the critical information you need to decide:
http://diglloyd.com/index-zf.html
21 >> its reputation precedes it. Nothing like it, especially compared to Canon WA's.
35/1.4 >>> Roger Cicala, owner of www.lensrentals.com says this in an essay entitled, "Things I Would Buy If I Bought Stuff" (http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2011/01/stuff-i-would-buy-if-i-bought-stuff): "The first lens on this list I actually will buy. So the Zeiss 35mm f1.4 is first on my list.... It is just that good. (Yes, I’ve gotten to shoot with it already. Trust me on this one.)" Early shots on Flickr and Lloyd Chamber's site look mighty interesting. Still, don't forget the ZE 35/2; great color, flat field, spectacular resolution and contrast....a classic lens.
50's >>> the MP is the more versatile, and some say the better of the two.
85 >>> Vilhelm (Esox Lucius) really loves the lens. Tricky shooting with focus shift to deal but razor sharp at f/2.8 and smaller. The Canon 85/1.2 might very well be the more interesting choice.
But its all are other people's opinions. Rent what interests you most and see what suits your style of shooting. Outfits like www.lensrentals.com will pro-rate the rental toward your subsequent purchase. |
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Esox lucius
Joined: 26 Aug 2008 Posts: 2441 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:16 am Post subject: Re: 5DmkII and Zeiss lenses...which ones |
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Esox lucius wrote:
james wrote: |
I strongly recommend the paid subscription to Lloyd Chambers' Zeiss Lens Reviews. It might provide you with the critical information you need to decide:
http://diglloyd.com/index-zf.html |
+1
The 30 EUR spent on the subscription will help you save hundreds, potentially thousands. Lloyd's findings also will considerably shorten your learning curve with each and every ZE lens you end up buying.
The focus shift of the Planar T* 85/1.4 ZF/ZE is common for most medium tele fast lenses. Slowly but surely, you learn to avoid it, just as your motoric memory learns every lens and how much focus turn you need to achieve focus. _________________ Vilhelm
Nikon DSLR: D4, D800, Nikon D3, D70
Nikon SLR: Nikon F100, Nikon FM2n
Nikkor MF: 20/2.8 Ai-S, 24/2 Ai-S, 24/2.8 Ai-S, 28/2 Ai-S, 28/2.8 Ai-S, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 Ai-S, 45/2.8 GN, 50/1.2 Ai, 50/1.2 Ai-S, 50/1.4 Ai, 50/1.4 Ai-S, 50/1.8 AI-S "long", 50/1.8 AI-S "short", 55/1.2 Ai, 85/1.4 Ai-S, 85/1.8H, 105/2.5 Ai, 135/2.8Q, 135/3.5 Ai, 180/2.8 Ai-S ED
Nikkor AF/AF-S FX: 14-24/2.8G, 16/2.8D Fisheye, 16-35/4G VR, 17-35/2.8D, 24/1.4G, 24/3.5D PC-E, 24/2.8D, 24-70/2.8G, 28/1.4D, 28/1.8G, 35/1.4G, 35/2D, 50/1.4D, 50/1.4G, 50/1.8G, 60/2.8 Micro, 60/2.8G Micro, 70-200/2.8G VR, 70-200/2.8G VR II, 80-400/4.5-5.6D VR, 85/1.4G, 85/2.8D PC-E Micro, 105/2D DC, 105/2.8G VR Micro, 135/2D DC, 200/2G VR, 200-400/4G VR, 300/2.8G VR, 300/4D ED, 400/2.8G VR, 800/5.6E VR
Nikkor AF/AF-S DX: 10.5/2.8G Fisheye, 12-24/4G, 18-70/3.5-4.5G
Topcor: Auto-Topcor 58/1.4,
Voigtländer SL: 40/2 Ultron, 58/1.4 Nokton, 75/2.5 Color-Heliar, 90/3.5 APO-Lanthar, 125/2.5 APO-Lanthar, 180/4 APO-Lanthar
Zeiss ZF: Planar T* 85/1.4 ZF
M42 SLR: Voigtländer Bessaflex TM
M42: Flektogon 20/4, Flektogon 35/2.4, Tessar 50/2.8 T, Super-Takumar 55/1.8, Biotar 58/2 T, Pentacon 135/2.8, Sonnar 135/3.5
Medium format: several Zeiss Super Ikonta 532/16 Opton-Tessar 80mm f/2.8, Zeiss Ikonta 524/16 Opton-Tessar 75mm f/3.5
Leica: R7, M4, Super-Angulon-R 4/21, Elmarit-R 2.8/28, Summicron-R 2/35, Summicron-M 2/35, Summicron-M 2/50, Elmarit-R 2,8/180 |
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6950 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:59 am Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
My advice is buy the best lens that you can afford in the focal length you need. I have good 35mm lenses that I never use. _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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AhamB
Joined: 22 Jun 2008 Posts: 733 Location: Germany
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Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:14 am Post subject: |
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AhamB wrote:
The 50/1.4 and 85/1.4 are very good, but the 50/2 and 100/2 have more of that magical "pop" and they are more versatile, like James already mentioned. The ultimate image resource on Z* lenses: http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/860134
Most of Contax lenses are very good and some of them very close to their ZE counterparts. The Contax 35/1.4 and 85/1.4 are ones to look for if you don't want to pay the high price tag of the ZE's. The Contax 21/2.8 is hardly more affordable than the ZE.
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darrenw
Joined: 27 Jul 2010 Posts: 47 Location: Richmond BC Canada
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Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:43 am Post subject: |
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darrenw wrote:
Thanks for the wisdom and leads guys.
Darren _________________ Take care.
Darren |
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:25 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
AhamB wrote: |
Most of Contax lenses are very good and some of them very close to their ZE counterparts. |
Well, that may be true if you consider the MTFs, but for other things, like chromatic aberrations control for instance, the Contax lenses take the lead.
Also, the Contax and Z lines render the image differently. The bokeh in most Z lenses is smoother than in the Contax lenses, this can be a strong point for bokeh lovers. Contax lenses however appear to me (and to someone else) to provide a dimensionality to images that not all the Z lenses can obtain. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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darrenw
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Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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darrenw wrote:
Orio, thanks for your input as I know you really love Zeiss glass in general. May I ask what your all time favourite models are? _________________ Take care.
Darren |
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Orio
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Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
darrenw wrote: |
Orio, thanks for your input as I know you really love Zeiss glass in general. May I ask what your all time favourite models are? |
You're welcome Darren. I have my favourites of course.
The Distagon 1.4/35 and Planar 1.4/85 are my two most favourites. I would be a happy photographer even if I only had those two lenses.
After them, the Distagon 2/28, Distagon 2.8/25, Planar 1.4/50, Planar 1.2/85, Sonnar 3.5/100, Planar 2/135, Vario-Sonnar 80-200 and Vario-Sonnar 100-300 are my most used ones.
But I have to say, I love all the Contax CY lenses, I only had a bad experience with one, the Tele-Tessar 300, which I returned, because of the very bad purple fringing. Aside from that lens, I would recommend any of the other lenses of the line.
_ _________________ Orio, Administrator
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