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BRunner
Joined: 29 Jul 2009 Posts: 705 Location: Czech Republic
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Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 10:44 am Post subject: Close Encounters of the Trio Kind |
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BRunner wrote:
Trioplans 2.8/100mm
From left: EXA V 120xxxx, M42 V 159xxxx, M42 without V 256xxxx, EXA without V 262xxxx, EXA without V 215xxxx, EXA N without V 351xxxx
Coating:
Aperture blades:
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 11:52 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Wow! What a beauties!!! _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Nikos
Joined: 17 May 2010 Posts: 1077 Location: Greece
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Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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Nikos wrote:
Very beautiful.
What advice do you have in case I decide to get one? _________________ Νίκος • www.diafragma.gr
Cameras: Canon EOS 5D Mark II, Sony α7R, Sony NEX-5N
MF lenses:
SLR:
Canon TS-E 17mm f/4, Zeiss 2.8/21 ZE, Zeiss 2/28 Contax, Zeiss 2/35 ZE, Zeiss 1.4/50 Contax, Zeiss 1.4/85 Contax, Zeiss Makro 2/100 ZE,
Zeiss 2/135 Contax, Zeiss 2.8/135 Contax, Zeiss Vario-Sonnar 35-70 Contax, Zeiss Vario-Sonnar 100-300 Contax, Zeiss F-Distagon Rollei, Canon FD 24mm f2, Minolta MD Rokkor 35mm f2.8
Rangefinder:
Zeiss 4.5/21 C Biogon ZM, Zeiss 2/35 Biogon ZM, Voigtländer 15mm f/4.5 Heliar L39, Leica Tele-Elmarit 2.8/90mm, Zeiss 2/45 Contax G, Zeiss 2.8/90 Contax G, Canon 50mm 1.8 LTM
AF lenses: Canon 15mm f/2.8 Fisheye, Canon 24-70 f/2.8 L, Canon 70-200 f/2.8 L IS II, Canon 70-200 f/4 L, Canon 300 f/4 L IS, Canon 100 f/2.8 macro
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Black is quite close to modern lenses, silver has very unique character. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Nikos
Joined: 17 May 2010 Posts: 1077 Location: Greece
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Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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Nikos wrote:
Attila wrote: |
Black is quite close to modern lenses, silver has very unique character. |
We are talking about silver, of course!
How old are they ?
Just in case, my M42 adapter is on the way
Why don't you support your statement with a few photos? _________________ Νίκος • www.diafragma.gr
Cameras: Canon EOS 5D Mark II, Sony α7R, Sony NEX-5N
MF lenses:
SLR:
Canon TS-E 17mm f/4, Zeiss 2.8/21 ZE, Zeiss 2/28 Contax, Zeiss 2/35 ZE, Zeiss 1.4/50 Contax, Zeiss 1.4/85 Contax, Zeiss Makro 2/100 ZE,
Zeiss 2/135 Contax, Zeiss 2.8/135 Contax, Zeiss Vario-Sonnar 35-70 Contax, Zeiss Vario-Sonnar 100-300 Contax, Zeiss F-Distagon Rollei, Canon FD 24mm f2, Minolta MD Rokkor 35mm f2.8
Rangefinder:
Zeiss 4.5/21 C Biogon ZM, Zeiss 2/35 Biogon ZM, Voigtländer 15mm f/4.5 Heliar L39, Leica Tele-Elmarit 2.8/90mm, Zeiss 2/45 Contax G, Zeiss 2.8/90 Contax G, Canon 50mm 1.8 LTM
AF lenses: Canon 15mm f/2.8 Fisheye, Canon 24-70 f/2.8 L, Canon 70-200 f/2.8 L IS II, Canon 70-200 f/4 L, Canon 300 f/4 L IS, Canon 100 f/2.8 macro
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Silver post war, most common one.
http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic.php?t=3186&highlight=trioplan+100&sid=f3c3f75a0326e64209c2c00ef9649c28
This is a pre-war lens.
http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/german/meyer/trioplan_10cm/
This is post-war.
http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/german/meyer/trioplan_100mm_f2_8/
Black one.
http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/german/meyer/trioplan_100mm_f2_8_exa/ _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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BRunner
Joined: 29 Jul 2009 Posts: 705 Location: Czech Republic
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Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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BRunner wrote:
nkanellopoulos wrote: |
Very beautiful.
What advice do you have in case I decide to get one? |
Tomorrow I will try to do quick comparison. But only the two left and the black one. They should be all the same optical schema. But the oldest one (left most for EXA) seems to be little bit shorter, maybe there will be some difference. Avoid the two most right because of bad shaped aperture. If you can use EXA, get the fourth, it will be cheaper than M42. The first is probably too rare. |
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6950 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
I still get outbid on these almost 2 years on. _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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Attila
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Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
martinsmith99 wrote: |
I still get outbid on these almost 2 years on. |
Put a bit more money on them. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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BRunner
Joined: 29 Jul 2009 Posts: 705 Location: Czech Republic
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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BRunner wrote:
As I promised, here is quick comparison. This is my standard bokeh/contrast lens torture test. The only difference I see, is in coating. Unfortunately, V or higher serial number, doesn't mean better contrast! Otherwise the OOF lights are rendered identical to me, except black N version, which stopped down shows hexagonal OOF lights, due to it's six blades aperture. The images are not overexposed, Trioplans just don't like contra light. I even used shorter times, than metered by camera. For comparison, I included Pentacon 2.8/100 to show the advance of this modern design lens (here I used shutter speed as metered by camera). JPEGs straight from camera, only resized. Fixed WB.
@f2.8 oldest EXA V 120xxxx
@f2.8 M42 without V 256xxxx
@f2.8 EXA N without V 351xxxx
@f2.8 Pentacon 2.8/100
Stopped down:
@f5.6 oldest EXA V 120xxxx
@f5.6 M42 without V 256xxxx
@f5.6 EXA N without V 351xxxx
@f5.6 Pentacon 2.8/100
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6950 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:12 am Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
Nice samples. I like the 256 serial the best. I know that the Pentacon is more saturated and better contrast, but these days we can tweat that in PP. The appeal to me is the bokeh which is not as pleasant in the Pentacon.
Attila wrote: |
martinsmith99 wrote: |
I still get outbid on these almost 2 years on. |
Put a bit more money on them. |
No, I stick to my budget. Many can get away but there will always be another. And........
As if by magic I finally got one after almost 2 years of hunting. And I got it quite cheaply with its box. _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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BRunner
Joined: 29 Jul 2009 Posts: 705 Location: Czech Republic
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 7:20 am Post subject: |
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BRunner wrote:
martinsmith99 wrote: |
Nice samples. I like the 256 serial the best. I know that the Pentacon is more saturated and better contrast, but these days we can tweat that in PP. The appeal to me is the bokeh which is not as pleasant in the Pentacon
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As if by magic I finally got one after almost 2 years of hunting. And I got it quite cheaply with its box. |
Wide open I like Pentacon bokeh better, it's more creamy. But stopped down is degraded by six blade aperture. The older Oreston preset version of this lens wiht 10 blades aperture will do surely much better stopped down.
BTW congrats to your new acquisition and welcome to Trioplan owners club
Two more from 256xxxx to illustrate it's great performance in not so tough lighting conditions:
256xxxx @f2.8 with short macro-ring
256xxxx @f4
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